Don’t tell the evangelicals...

God took the land away from the Jews in 70 AD for murdering Jesus. And, those who call themselves Jews today aren't the descendants of Israel. They only call themselves Jews out of solidarity with those who killed Jesus. Too bad you're a brainless fcktard who has no ability to process the points I've given you.

You don't understand!Jesus died for our sins!
I killed Jesus!
Thanks for coming out of the Antisemitic closet
 
God took the land away from the Jews in 70 AD for murdering Jesus. And, those who call themselves Jews today aren't the descendants of Israel. They only call themselves Jews out of solidarity with those who killed Jesus. Too bad you're a brainless fcktard who has no ability to process the points I've given you.

YHWH took it away in 70 ad,and gave it back in 1948,then gave back Jerusalem in 1967!
 
Original sin originates from Saint Augustine and is associated with the western Churches. Saint Augustine was not well known in the Christian east until well after the Middle Ages. Consequently, the theological position of the Eastern Orthodox Church is the humans today are not personally responsible and do not personally share the guilt of the original sin

Thank you for that information

God made everything both good and the bad, God is all, nothing is outside of God

Isaiah
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”

He (Satan) is clearly subordinate to God, a member of His suite (Heb. Bene ha-elokim), who is unable to act without his permission. Nowhere is he in any sense a rival of God. The Encyclopedia Judaica The Christian claim that it was Satan who created evil is utterly fraudulent according to our Tanach: I (God) form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. Isaiah 45:7 God creates all things, not simply good things. There isn't a single verse in the entire Tanach that states that Satan ever created evil or ever disobeyed a command from God. Satan is an obedient servant of God in the Tanach who serves the role of man's accuser in God's court.
Creation of Temptation
God created the temptation to do evil partially to test our loyalty, and partially to improve us. That is why the word (Satan- שטן) in Hebrew literally means an adversary (Numbers 22:22) that comes to challenge us. We find this notion throughout the Book of Job, where God gives permission to the Satan to challenge the righteous Job. In fact, one of the most dramatic and powerful expressions of man’s struggle with God and his conscience involves Job and Satan. God had given Satan permission to afflict Job with all manner of hardships and misfortune. In turn, Job loses his family and possessions, and is stricken with boils and disease. As he sits in sheer agony, his close colleagues remark, “Your piety is your foolishness.” Even his wife chews him out, saying, "Are you still holding fast to your integrity? Curse God, and die." But Job tells them, "You speak as one who is despicable. Should we accept only the good from God and not also accept the evil?”(Job 2:9‑10)

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Torah’s view of Satan in diametrically different than the Christian view. Christianity understands Satan to be a “fallen angel” who wants to seduce mankind to rebel against God.

The Jewish understanding of Satan is also found in the book Job, where Satan is portrayed as a force that only acts with God’s permission to test Job’s free choice.

Ultimately doing good or evil in our hands, as it says. “I have set before you, life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life” (Deuteronomy 30:19). The real role of Satan is to challenge mankind, thereby providing us an opportunity to use our freedom of choice to make good and righteous decisions.
 
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Biblical Israel was destroyed because it failed to live up to its covenant oath. Indeed Israel was "given" to the Jews by GOD....forever, under conditions of THE PROMISE. Those conditions are contained in the Holy Scriptures. Conditions that Biblical Israel failed to abide in.

Read the scriptures. God made promises to father Abraham. There were 3 major promises. 1. Land 2. A Nation 3. And Israel would be a blessing to all nations of the earth (Gen. 12:1-3, Gen. 15:18)

Some people claim all 3 of those promises are still in effect...because they were FOREVER....that is a major lack of comprehension of recorded scripture.

The scriptures teach that God lived up to His promise to father Abraham, because that is the nature of God, He keeps His word, He cannot lie. (Heb. 6:13-18)

The promise of giving land to Israel was fulfilled (Ex. 6:4-8) In the Book of Deut. God told the Israelites to enter and possess the land (Deut. 1:6-8) God fulfilled His promise (Jos. 11:23)

THE PROMISE was ACCOMPLISHED IN ITS ENTIRETY...there was nothing lacking on God's portion of the promise (Jos. 21:43-45)

The nation promise was fulfilled while the Israelites lived in Egypt under captivity. God had told Israel that is when the Nation promise would be realized (Gen. 46:3). The population of Israel increased greatly while in Egypt (Ex. 1:7) Their numbers became like Stars, just as God had promised (Deut. 1:9-11).

There remained but ONE PROMISE of the original 3 promises made to father Abraham by God.....for the nation of Israel to become a blessing to all the peoples of the world.....and that promise would come much later. That blessing came first to the Jews of Biblical Israel through Christ Jesus in the 1st century (Acts 3:24-26). Form there in 1st century Israel, that promise spread to all the nations of the world (Gal. 3:8-9, 13-16, 26-29).

BUT THAT IS WHERE MOST PEOPLE WISH TO END THE DETAILS OF THE PROMISE AND THE COVENANT MADE BETWEEN GOD AND THE NATION OF BIBICAL ISRAEL...THERE IS MORE, MUCH MORE TO THE DETAILED TRUTH FOUND IN SCRIPTURES.

God made other promises to Israel besides the Nation promise consisting of 3 parts. God promised Israel that He would destroy it if it failed in its part of the covenant and became disloyal to the God of Creation. (Lev. 26:27-29). They would be driven from the land (Deut. 4:25-28). They would cease to be a nation (Deut. 8:19-20)

And these things happened. Israel sinned greatly against God and in spite of God's longsuffering.....the Northern Tribes were removed from the Land of promise (2 Kings 17:7-18)

When the remaining tribe sinned it also was removed from the land. (2 Kings 23:26-27)

Yet...God was longsuffering.....God would allow for a portion of Israel to be restored to the land after 70 years of eviction.....but only IN PART.....Israel as a whole nation, with all tribal ID would never be totally restored again, JUST A REMNANT WOULD RETURN, like a broken potters jar pieced back together never as great as the original (Jer. 19:7-13)(Jer. 25:8-13) (Isa. 10:20-23).

God kept all His promises.....Israel was totally and completely wiped from the face of existence by the Roman Empire over 2000 years ago. The New Nation is but a counterfeit nation using the Name of Israel without God's blessings.

Biblical Israel exists today as a New Testament Covenant Nation...that nation, God's chosen....is Christianity. As clearly stated in Scripture.

"FOR YE ARE ALL CHILDREN OF GOD BY FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS. FOR AS MANY OF YOU HAS BEEN BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST HAVE PUT ON CHRIST. THERE IS NEITHER GREEK NOR JEW; THERE IS NEITHER BOND NOR FREE; THERE IS NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE; FOR YE ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS.

AND IF YE BE CHRIST'S; THEN YOU ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM'S SEED; AND HEIR TO THE PROMISE." -- Gal 3:26-29

There is only 1 promise remaining of the original 3. The Land promised was fulfilled and broken by Israel....the Nation promise was fulfilled and broken by Israel. There remains only 1 promise......Christians as the SEED OF ABRHAM will become a blessing to ALL NATIONS OF THE EARTH.:bigthink:

The Jews were,are,always will be YHWH's Chosen People to tell his story thru.
The Age of the Gentiles is almost over!
Then Israel and the Jews go center stage!
 
thank you

God made everything both good and the bad, God is all, nothing is outside of God

Isaiah
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”

He (Satan) is clearly subordinate to God, a member of His suite (Heb. Bene ha-elokim), who is unable to act without his permission. Nowhere is he in any sense a rival of God. The Encyclopedia Judaica The Christian claim that it was Satan who created evil is utterly fraudulent according to our Tanach: I (God) form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. Isaiah 45:7 God creates all things, not simply good things. There isn't a single verse in the entire Tanach that states that Satan ever created evil or ever disobeyed a command from God. Satan is an obedient servant of God in the Tanach who serves the role of man's accuser in God's court.
Creation of Temptation
God created the temptation to do evil partially to test our loyalty, and partially to improve us. That is why the word (Satan- שטן) in Hebrew literally means an adversary (Numbers 22:22) that comes to challenge us. We find this notion throughout the Book of Job, where God gives permission to the Satan to challenge the righteous Job. In fact, one of the most dramatic and powerful expressions of man’s struggle with God and his conscience involves Job and Satan. God had given Satan permission to afflict Job with all manner of hardships and misfortune. In turn, Job loses his family and possessions, and is stricken with boils and disease. As he sits in sheer agony, his close colleagues remark, “Your piety is your foolishness.” Even his wife chews him out, saying, "Are you still holding fast to your integrity? Curse God, and die." But Job tells them, "You speak as one who is despicable. Should we accept only the good from God and not also accept the evil?”(Job 2:9‑10)

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Nietzsche ended up talking to his horse
 
That bimbo, That Owl Woman, might eat up what you're saying. But, where does the Talmud, the Jew's Satanic Bible, teach reincarnation until your sins are atoned?

Christianity doesn't teach any punishment for the wicked, other than death. The infinite suffering doctrine is almost exclusively held by biblically ignorant, low-IQ Christians, and so you know it's universally believed by Zionists.

Antisemitic mombo jombo!
 
That bimbo, That Owl Woman, might eat up what you're saying. But, where does the Talmud, the Jew's Satanic Bible, teach reincarnation until your sins are atoned?

Christianity doesn't teach any punishment for the wicked, other than death. The infinite suffering doctrine is almost exclusively held by biblically ignorant, low-IQ Christians, and so you know it's universally believed by Zionists.

Antisemitic mombo jombo!
 
WTF does that word salad mean?

So another of those Jesus killing Christians with fabricated misnomers of an immaculate conception in order to maintain that pedophilia servitude, which SCOTUS of this Christian Nation maintains with forgiveness for thieving US Constitution - old glory - old testament arsonists as one nation under God keeping every form of tyranny over the mind of man statistical mean of word salad....
 
So another of those Jesus killing Christians with fabricated misnomers of an immaculate conception in order to maintain that pedophilia servitude, which SCOTUS of this Christian Nation maintains with forgiveness for thieving US Constitution - old glory - old testament arsonists as one nation under God keeping every form of tyranny over the mind of man statistical mean of word salad....

So you live in a legal pot state,and are shitfaced stoned!:cool:
 
So you live in a legal pot state,and are shitfaced stoned!:cool:

The Federal Lynching churchstate of hate is mostly true but the other is unaffordable due to this national religion master race of Christiananality pedophilia forgiving themselves master plan including substituting pot for Zyklon - B in that Christian tradition.
 
in Judaism all people will share in the world to come, no profession of I believe or eternal hell

Tell the truth. In your religion, a satanic imposter of Judaism, gentiles don't get to share the world to come with Jews. If I'm wrong, Talmud "chapter and verse" please.

don't know where the xtians got that eternal hell from , was never part of Judaism as judaism never have the original sin thing

Zionists, like ThatOwlWoman are professional idiots. They make an effort to take Bible verses in the dumbest ways possible. E.g. Isaiah 66:24 “And they shall go out and look on the dead bodies of the men who have rebelled against me. For their worm shall not die, their fire shall not be quenched, and they shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.” Worm shall not die... fire shall not be quenched? Morons take that to mean that dead people will burn forever, and feel the flames. Never mind that it's not talking about the afterlife. Never mind that it's the fire and worms that don't die, not the dead bodies which are, uh, dead. And, not that it matters at this point, but "shall not die" and "shall not be quenched" are figures of speech.
 
You don't understand!Jesus died for our sins!
I killed Jesus!
Thanks for coming out of the Antisemitic closet

If you killed Jesus, you will go to Hell for it. But, wait in line behind the Jews. Rather than cleansing you of sin, his death makes you a murderer. You are a fcking moron.

You've always been a antichristian.
 
If you killed Jesus, you will go to Hell for it. But, wait in line behind the Jews. Rather than cleansing you of sin, his death makes you a murderer. You are a fcking moron.
You've always been a antichristian.

If it took 600 years for Christians to come up with the concept of hell it must have been some pedophilia slavery jihad where they could kill Jews without repercussions for quite a long time from a fabricated misnomer of an immaculate conception.
 
The Jews were,are,always will be YHWH's Chosen People to tell his story thru.
The Age of the Gentiles is almost over!
Then Israel and the Jews go center stage!

That's not what my Tora or New Testament declares. ;) Who should I believe.....the inspired word of God as delivered by the Holy Spirit...or your cult? :dunno: FYI: when the age of the Christians is over.....the days of the EARTH are over...there is no 1000 year reign.....the earth and with be destroyed in its entirety, consumed in fire. That 1000 year Kingdom? Has been in existence for over 2000 years now. Thanks to God's longsuffering we are living on borrowed time.


What part of these scriptures do you not comprehend? "There is neither GREEK nor JEW (gentile of jew), there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for YE ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS; and if you are CHRIST'S, then you are Abraham's descendants, and heirs ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE." -- Gal. 3:28-29:bigthink:

There is no Biblical Israel, that nation was destroyed in its entirety with the exception of those who were transformed into the Kingdom of Christ...to the Jews First, then to all the people's of world that would be confess Christ as the Messiah of prophecy. In Fact for the 1st 10 years......Christianity was exclusive to the JEWS....the first gentile conversion did not occur until a decade after Christ's last breath declaring it is finished. What was finished....the requirements of the OLD LAW had been fulfilled through Christ Jesus and was hanged on the cross with our LORD.

Its easy to tell a counterfeit from the real thing. Compare the actual state of Biblical Israel with the modern nation calling itself ISRAEL. There is no comparison.

The Israel of the Bible. Ruled by a King chosen by Father God (1 Sam. 8:42). Modern Israel. Ruled and governed by political parties.

The Israel of the Bible. Possessed ALL THE LAND promised by God to Abraham (1 King 4:21) Modern Israel. Now in possession of only a fraction of the promised land and that given by the UN...not God.

The Israel of the Bible. Had the promised Temple in Jerusalem. Modern Israel. NO TEMPLE in Jerusalem

The Israel of the Bible. Levitical Priesthood (Num. 3:6-10) Modern Israel. No priests.....only secular politicians

The Israel of the Bible. Had TRIBAL ID (2 Sam. 5:1-3). Modern Israel. Tribes no longer exist....the last remnant was destroyed over 2000 years by the Roman Empire, because they dishonored God's only Begotten Son and rightful heir to the throne of DAVID.


MORE differences that are as transparent as Glass? Why are those who profess to serving the Old Testament no longer required to be Circumcised in the flesh? It was a FOREVER command...a law of JEWS and those who profess to be serving YHWH today. Is your entire family CIRCUMCISED...if not why not? Is your entire cult Circumcised, your priests, your minsters? If not why not? That law was supposed to be FOREVER (Gen. 17:11-14) As a Christian (the actual chosen remnant of God) circumcision is no longer of the flesh but spiritual (Gal. 5:1-6, 6:15)

Passover? Do the members of your cult still practice PASSOVER.....that also was FOREVER in worship of YHWH (Ex. 12:14) Why do you not practice Passover and sacrifice a LAMB, if all the laws of the Old Testament is still in effect? Reality: Those laws were nailed to the cross of the Christ (Col. 2:16-17)

Strange is how your cult picks and chooses which laws are still in effect and which one's do not apply TO YOU....yet you still want to be in bondage to the OLD LAW and live in sin when you fail to follow the ENTIRE LAW of MOSES.
 
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That's not what my Tora or New Testament declares. ;) Who should I believe.....the inspired word of God as delivered by the Holy Spirit...or your cult? :dunno:


What part of these scriptures do you not comprehend? "There is neither GREEK nor JEW (gentile of jew), there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for YE ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS; and if you CHRIST'S, then you are Abraham's descendants, and heirs ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE." -- Gal. 3:28-29:bigthink:

Your post deals with those that have accepted Christ.
My post deals with the Jews that haven't accepted Christ,but YHWH is still telling his story thru them,and hasn't abandoned them.
 
Your post deals with those that have accepted Christ.
My post deals with the Jews that haven't accepted Christ,but YHWH is still telling his story thru them,and hasn't abandoned them.

My posts are backed by actual scripture (book chapter and verse from both the law of Moses and the New Testament of Christ), these are the words of God, not my words....your posts are backed by HORSE PUCKY ad hominem subjective drivel. If you wish to debate the actual word of scripture (the truth)....its best to actually know your scriptures and stop parroting cult propaganda. ;)

FYI: All Jews that have not accepted the Christ.....are lost, there is only one way into the Kingdom of God, and that is through Christ Jesus. Christ was given all authority by Father God (Matt. 28:18)

The apostles said all things were subjection under the feet of the Christ (Eph. 1:22-23) Christ is the King of Kings (1 Tim. 6:5)

"I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE; NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME." -- John 14:16

Can any Jew be saved today? Of course, just bend a knee to the Christ, and be baptized into the Kingdom of God. Anyone outside that Kingdom is doomed to an eternal separation from the God of Creation (YHWH).

Any doctrine that comes from outside the word of God....is false doctrine, the doctrine of men.
 
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My posts are backed by actual scripture (book chapter and verse from both the law of Moses and the New Testament of Christ), these are the words of God, not my words....your posts are backed by HORSE PUCKY ad hominem subjective drivel. If you wish to debate the actual word of scripture (the truth)....its best to actually know your scriptures and stop parroting cult propaganda. ;)

Asked answered.
 
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