In case you forgot, there was a massive drop in the price of oil around 2015. Texas faced the same problem Venezuela did, but Texas got a bailout from Uncle Sam so they didn't have to admit their economic model, which is almost wholly dependent on fossil fuel revenues, was crumbling just like Venezuela's.
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In case you forgot, there was a massive drop in the price of oil around 2015. Texas faced the same problem Venezuela did, but Texas got a bailout from Uncle Sam so they didn't have to admit their economic model, which is almost wholly dependent on fossil fuel revenues, was crumbling just like Venezuela's.
cawacko
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To me, if more people voted for someone they supported rather than just who they think will win we'd all be better off.
And I know every place is different, but where I live we always have a massive number of local and state bond measures and propositions. I pay way more attention to those and that's why I vote every election, not just the Presidential election as many others do.
cawacko
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for sh*ts and giggles, did he direct that at me?
read the article. Venezuela has survived price drops before like back in the mid 80's.
Chavez fired a bunch of technocrats -with his paranoia of "political rivals" that was the final nail in the coffin
Mismanagement and lack of re-investment ( as I mentioned) did it in
LV likes his drama.. but it's a good word.
As to 3rd partys ,I voted for a few when I could not stomach POTUS ( like Obama and Romney)
But if you really want to help defeat the duopoly -vote 3rd party for local and state government -build bottom up
Not a price drop like the one that happened in 2015.
We had to bail out Texas, Oklahoma, and North Dakota in 2015.
Right, you're a coward.
I'm more focused on destroying your fascism, but it's a tell that you're trying to get people to vote 3P, like Russia tried to do in 2016. What's next, #Walkaway? You remember that? You should because you pushed those Russian Active Measures in 2018.
the point is Venez lost it's expertise and it's ability to keep pumping. a cash bailout (infusion for loss of market pricing) wouldn't help..
Their industry was wrecked by Chavez for his socialism and paranoia of firing technocrats
I can only go so low with "lessor of 2 evils"
Usually I hold my nose and just do it. But Romney and Obama post-Libya were barf worthy and little else
ROFL. Russia had no effect on the election.
But your Russiaphobia drove Putin into an economic and military alliance with Xi -
and now we can't triangulate against China!
So you wanted to influence our politics without bearing any of the responsibility for the destruction you've wrought.
So how does that not make you a coward?
cawacko
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Thanks. Wanna be internet tough guys are awesome.
I've voted third party twice on the national level. The first Presidential vote I cast was for Perot in '92. Admittedly I was young and in college and didn't really know much politically at that time. And then I did in '16.
You make an interesting point on the local level because that is a place where third party candidates can win elections. Unfortunately in San Francisco the only third party members who run are Greens. We have no Republicans or Libertarians. And unfortunately we have Green Party members who wins seats on our Board of Supervisors. As if Democrats weren't bad enough...
Edit: To be transparent I've voted for the last five Democratic Mayors of the City. It's truly a 'lessor of two evils' scenario because the opponent is either a Green or an even further to the left Democrat.
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That is not what the Senate said, nor is it what all US intelligence agencies said.
Right, I'm to blame for Putin using you to drive a wedge between Americans. Sure, Jan.
How's that going? Oh right, terribly because Trump is blaming China for his lazy response, after praising them and sending them our PPE just two months ago.
Cawacko showing everyone what a lazy piece of shit he is...
no votes were changed, and the little bit of FB trolls are dwarfed in a $billion+ election ( plus all the free media)
ad hom -worthless . I advocate for the USA by improving US/Russian relations.
Dem's bullshit of "Russian collusion" has done the polarization and international geopolitical damage
Trump shut down China flights, the WHO acted as China's mouthpiece by disseminating the Big Lie that coronavirus wasn't human to human infection
I bet you're a fun guy at parties!
yes. you can't just expect a 3rd party to do anything without grass roots support on non-election years
We don't know if any votes were changed. Russia was able to hack into almost every election system in the country.
Yeah, by ceding everything to Russia, including Crimea and Syria. None of that is in our national interests.
Why did Paul Manafort share GOP polling data from key swing states with a Putin-linked Ukrainian when he was campaign manager?
No he didn't. 40,000 people came in, and virtually none of them were quarantined or tested. They weren't even screened.
No, they didn't. Trump was warned of the pathogen in November and December, and those warnings specifically mentioned that it was a "contagion".
I can't help it if you're so much of a liar you pretend to not know what a "contagion" is, but the fact that it is the root of "contagious" should probably be your first clue.
they were able ( as was China) to hack into VOTER ROLES, not elections themselves. Rosenstein said "no votes were changed"
Rosenstein: No Allegation In Indictment That Russian Hacking Changed Vote Count, Election Result
https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/13/rosenstein-no-allegation-hacking-changed-vote-count/
simplistic garbage.
Why did Russia annex Crimea? because of the rise of Poroshenko post Euromaidan -where our State Dept
and John Mccain (on the ground in Independence Sq. /Kyiv) made sure the protests turned into a revolution
Poroshenko would not renew the lease at Sevastopol - this wasn't the frst time and forced Putin's hand.
If you thnk Syria is "in our national interest" you are completely hopeless. Let Russia die over Syria
ROFL @ "Putin linked". So I guess you stopped using the Mueller phrase "Russian intelligence?"
that's an improvement by you at least
Close to 500k were not allowed in!
those allowed in were relatives of US citizens (and you would be screaming fascism here if they were stopped)
contagion from what source? China kept saying no human to human contact sourcing
yuo need to learn the various types
Right, because we don't know because no one was able to check.
ROFL. take your Russiaphobia elsewhere