Oscar Grant - Shot and Killed by BART Police
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i can understand the problem with the bart cop - but why riot and destroy businesses and go after opd that had nothing to do with the shooting
but they do not have jurisdiction - it would be the jurisdiction of the county sheriff or state police
Immanuel
Junior Member
The Fruitvale Bart Station is in the City of Oakland. I would think OPD has the jurisdiction on this one.
Immie
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with all due respect to this incident, why is it the same people who get so angry and get up off their proverbial couches to action over this DO NOT get off their asses for gang land or other type killings?
why is it they only march and get upset over police killings? do you and they ever stop to thihnk that if they marched to the thug killings etc...that maybe, just maybe crime would go down?
why is it they only march and get upset over police killings? do you and they ever stop to thihnk that if they marched to the thug killings etc...that maybe, just maybe crime would go down?
cawacko
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it's interesting you say that as several of my (black) friends from Oakland have been making similar comments on Facebook.
Really, you have black friends who are wondering why blacks march against police executions of unarmed black civilians, instead of against black criminals?
What are their fucking names Cawacko, Michale Steele and alias'?
They sound pretty fucking stupid, if they exist.
You're not the only person here who has black friends, you're just the only person here who is constanly talking shit about your black friends and how they all agree with you and your nonsense.
I don't know one black person who would even listen to that shit, no less speak it.
cawacko
Well-known member
Ok, I guess that touched a nerve. There was nothing political in my statement. Three friends of mine made comments on Facebook (I'm sure you know how Facebook words, these comments weren't to me personally but to everyone on their Friends list) that said why don't people get as upset when the other couple of hundred black youths are killed in Oakland each year. And my first thought was actually because this individual was killed by a police officer and thus is different. But I believe their comments are justified nonetheless in that if the community rallied against all violence like they are for this person killed maybe it would have an impact.
Considering you like to attend rallies I'm not sure why you would find the idea so offensive. And I'm really lost at what Michael Steele or even his mind set would have to do with any of this? Nor did I even attempt to speak about these guys agreeing or disagreeing with me. These people simply made comments similar to the one Yurt made above.
So maybe a thought would be simply to read what is being said without so many pre-conceived ideas that then influence you to think you are reading something different than what you actually are.
cawacko
Well-known member
Here you go Darla, one of the quotes from Facebook. This guy is your typical Morehouse graduate Republican I'm sure.
"Dana is outraged by the BART Murder but is wondering why we are not equally outraged by the other 150 young black folks murdered in Oakland in 2008. "
What ignorance huh?
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Repressed rage. Same thing happened in the "Over the Rhine" district in Cincinnati. A young kid was busted by an inexperienced cop for a small amount of pot. The kid got scared and ran and the dumb assed rookie shot and killed him
The cop was charged with manslaughter and an all white jury did not convict him. Considering that this predominantly black neighborhood has been repressed for a long time, the area exploded and rioting occured. The rioters were just striking out at anything in frustration.
What bothered me was this moron wing nut conservative talking head started blabing on the radio about bringing in the national guard and shooting rioters which, needless to say, made a bad situation that much worse.
They should have just tossed Bill Cunningham's red necked creamy white ass over to the rioters. They would have torn him to pieces, ridding the world of a scum bag, and left happy and the riot would have ended with much less property damage.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
What a completely asinine and ignorant comment. There's a HUGE distinction between crime and a representative of the State (i.e. a police officer) summarily executing an individual with out due process of law. For a repressed minority this is hugely frustrating when the expectation is that justice delayed is justice denied. In addition the OPD is completely to blame for the riot. As US Citizens we have a constitutional right to peaceably assemble for a redress of grievances and the people of Oakland damned sure have a legitimate grievance. The rioting did not occur until the OPD attempted to deny these citizens their right to peaceably assemble. It was there ham handed tactics that caused the rioting.
The OPD is as culpable for the rioting just as much as the BART police officer is for the murder of this young man.
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yeah, how dare anyone get upset over gang killings and other murders, yeah
yeah, let's only get upset when the government wrongs us, yeah
yeah, let's not do anything about teh crime in our neighborhood, yeah
Yes.
cawacko
Well-known member
Where did you read the OPD denied people a right to protest? The protests were going along fine until night hit and a splinter group broke off in Downtown Oakland and started rioting. The OPD had nothing to do with that.
cawacko
Well-known member
Wow, you are really stupid sometimes Darla.
cawacko
Well-known member
I love that a little white girl in the suburbs knows so much more about the violence in Oakland than those that live there. And a little white suburban girl doesn't care about black on black crime because it doesn't effect her. Nice being a princess huh?
Cawacko you and your friends look stupid on this thread, and the fact that you could come along and actually speak as if Yurt is anything other than a peestain on this board, and his yelling of "what about black crime?" is anything other than the usual racist asshole diverision, doesn't make me look stupid.
Cawacko, I don't need to be black and live in Oakland to understand the difference between cops executing unarmed black men, and crime.
You shouldn't need to be either.