Oscar Grant - Shot and Killed by BART Police

I'm actually surprised that BART police let anyone out of there with a cell phone and camera. I'm surprised they didn't confiscate all video equipment as "evidence". Then accidentally drop the evidence in the estuary.

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cawacko said:
no, but the town is on tilt. In general though Oakland has a a high percentage of gun ownership. Not all legal of course but if guns scare a suburban kid in Mississippi he's not going to be a big fan of the city of Oakland.
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Ya should have told him to come on out to Oakland wearing a KC Chiefs Jersey.
 
cawacko said:
not surprisingly the officer and his family have recieved death threats. He's supposedly sleeping at a different place each night.

The family of the victim has made public comments asking people not to riot and they don't want the violence. Yesterday on Facebook a couple of people who were friends with the guy who got shot said he was a religious peaceful man who would not want this violence going on either.

Feels like kind of a power keg at the moment.
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The term you are looking for is powder keg.... dumbass USC grad
 
Dungheap said:
Uh, African American Vernacular English doesn't involve spelling words however the writer desires.
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thank you but i am aware of that. Superfreak's uneducated ass may not though which is why I used it. Thank you for standing up for him.
 
Damocles said:
Well, I can assure you we haven't had one person shot in the back while lying in the road, by cop or not. When they call the ambulance, we are the ones that respond. If they had shot anybody we'd have been called.

I think it may depend on where you are rural and minority rather than just all rural areas.
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BAS is absolutely right. I come from a small town. Hell they can't even refer to black people as anything other than nigers. Which is amazing cause there are NO BLACK PEOPLE IN THE TOWN.

In the small town I grew up in they used to have a sign at the city limits that said "Niger Don't let the Sun Go Down on You". It was only removed in the 60's. This wasn't in Alabama either. It was northwest Ohio.
 
cawacko said:
Just talked to a buddy who lives in downtown Oakland where all the action happened last night and he said he's watching the BART hearing live on TV and its getting ugly. He thinks more protest/violence may go down this weekend. Lord I hope not.
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I wonder how Fox News is covering this? "Hero cop shoots urban thug?"
 
Watermark said:
A taser and a gun feel much different.

Even a taser would've been excessive use of force, but pulling out the gun is just an incredible act of violence that was completely unnecessary. I just have no idea what was going through that cops head. Maybe he just wanted to kill a "disrespectful black kid".
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He snapped. I've seen it happen before. People who work in highly stressful jobs snap and do completely inappropriate and out of character acts for unjustifiable reasons during some moment of stress.
 
Mottleydude said:
BAS is absolutely right. I come from a small town. Hell they can't even refer to black people as anything other than nigers. Which is amazing cause there are NO BLACK PEOPLE IN THE TOWN.

In the small town I grew up in they used to have a sign at the city limits that said "Niger Don't let the Sun Go Down on You". It was only removed in the 60's. This wasn't in Alabama either. It was northwest Ohio.
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BAC also agreed with me. It's regional. I never heard the term uttered aloud except in movies until I went to Rockford, IL. Which to me is a large city.
 
Damocles said:
BAC also agreed with me. It's regional. I never heard the term uttered aloud except in movies until I went to Rockford, IL. Which to me is a large city.
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I get upset when I hear people play small town/rural values vs "the city folk" values.

I've lived large parts of my life in both and it's been my observation that human nature is pretty much the same where ever you live or as the Boss so eloquently said on 60 Minutes. "There are Saints and assholes on every block."

Rockford a large City? Man you are out in the boonies. I grew up in a farm town of about 3,000 people. It was pretty boring there.
 
Mottleydude said:
I get upset when I hear people play small town/rural values vs "the city folk" values.

I've lived large parts of my life in both and it's been my observation that human nature is pretty much the same where ever you live or as the Boss so eloquently said on 60 Minutes. "There are Saints and assholes on every block."

Rockford a large City? Man you are out in the boonies. I grew up in a farm town of about 3,000 people. It was pretty boring there.
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Rockford is the second largest city in Illinois. At least it was when we went. Maybe it changed.
 
Damocles said:
Rockford is the second largest city in Illinois. At least it was when we went. Maybe it changed.
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I've been to Rockford before. It's not far from the Quad Cities. I lived in Davenport, IA for a few years when my father was a grad student. I went to my first rock concert at the Speedway there. Saw REO Speedwagon. I'm also a fan of Rockford's most famous citizens, Cheap Trick.
 
Well it must be open season on minorities. Just saw in the news that Robbie Tolan, a minor league baseball prospect and son of former Cincinnati Reds outfielder Bobby Tolan was shot and critically wounded by Bel Aire, Texas police. His crime? Apparently driving while black.

He pulled up to his parents house in the family SUV. After exiting his vehicle A Bel Aire police officer approached him with gun drawn and accused him of stealing the vehicle. He then proceeded to have Tolan lay down in his parents drive way. When his mother came out and explained to the police officer that the SUV was the family vehicle the officer slammed her against the garage door. When Mr. Tolan, who was still laying face down on the ground turned his head and said "Don't treat my mother that way." the police officer turned around, drew his revolver and shot Mr. Tolan in the chest.

Mr. Tolan is presently in ICU and it's not known if he will survive.

I'm presently looking for a link.
 
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