Who will control the Senate after Election 2020?

[Dutch Uncle]

There's a lot of focus on the two candidates racing for the White House. There's less focus on the Senate even though controlling the Senate will have the greatest impact of all elections. Although it's possible for the House to flip Republican, it's likely to stay Democrat. The Senate races are much tighter where the Republicans are much more vulnerable than the Democrats.

House Elections
https://www.270towin.com/2020-house-election/

Senate Elections
https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Senate_elections,_2020
Twelve seats held by Democrats and 23 seats held by Republicans are up for election in 2020, including the Arizona special election and the Georgia special election. In 2014, the Republican Party picked up nine seats, resulting in their having more seats to defend in 2020. The map and table below show what seats are up for election and the current incumbent in each race.....Ballotpedia has identified 16 races as general election battlegrounds. Of the 16 seats, four have Democratic incumbents and 12 have Republican incumbents heading into the election.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/senate/

 

[PostmodernProphet]

if the demmycrats have the most senators they still won't control the senate......they can't even control themselves.....

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I suspect, more and more, that the Democrats are going to shoot themselves in the foot by November 3rd as they've been trying hard using a proverbial shotgun of stupidity as of late.

It's consistent pics like those that have me questioning the validity of the polls. Biden can't generate any enthusiasm at all for his campaign. His town halls, rallies, whatever have been utterly and completely lame and underwhelming. Trump's have large enthusiastic turnouts.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I suspect, more and more, that the Democrats are going to shoot themselves in the foot by November 3rd as they've been trying hard using a proverbial shotgun of stupidity as of late.

https://i0.wp.com/www.independentse.../09/rallies-trump-biden.jpg?fit=885,555&ssl=1

https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/wp-...biden-rallies-donald-trump-fills-stadiums.jpg

It's consistent pics like those that have me questioning the validity of the polls. Biden can't generate any enthusiasm at all for his campaign. His town halls, rallies, whatever have been utterly and completely lame and underwhelming. Trump's have large enthusiastic turnouts.

My guess is that the pandemic has something to do with that. Note Trump's rallies have slowed down quite a bit. Only the dummies show up.

Agreed the Democrats tend to shoot themselves in the foot. They fucked up Obama's first 100 days by focusing on Healthcare instead of the economy, thereby not only burning a shitpot full of political capital, but slowing the recovery which would pay for the healthcare plan. I have no doubt they'll do the same next year by focusing on a gun ban.

The best thing the Democrats have going for them is Trump being a fuck up.....and his mouth/Twitter account.

 

[Legion]

Trump's rallies have slowed down quite a bit.

Is that a fact?

 

[Cancel 2020.2]

if the demmycrats have the most senators they still won't control the senate......they can't even control themselves.....

 

[Cancel 2020.2]

Is that a fact?

:r oll eyes: :roll eyes:

 

[Cancel 2020.2]

I suspect, more and more, that the Democrats are going to shoot themselves in the foot by November 3rd as they've been trying hard using a proverbial shotgun of stupidity as of late.

It's consistent pics like those that have me questioning the validity of the polls. Biden can't generate any enthusiasm at all for his campaign. His town halls, rallies, whatever have been utterly and completely lame and underwhelming. Trump's have large enthusiastic turnouts.

 

[Cancel 2020.2]

My guess is that the pandemic has something to do with that. Note Trump's rallies have slowed down quite a bit. Only the dummies show up.

Agreed the Democrats tend to shoot themselves in the foot. They fucked up Obama's first 100 days by focusing on Healthcare instead of the economy, thereby not only burning a shitpot full of political capital, but slowing the recovery which would pay for the healthcare plan. I have no doubt they'll do the same next year by focusing on a gun ban.

The best thing the Democrats have going for them is Trump being a fuck up.....and his mouth/Twitter account.

 

[archives]

There's a lot of focus on the two candidates racing for the White House. There's less focus on the Senate even though controlling the Senate will have the greatest impact of all elections. Although it's possible for the House to flip Republican, it's likely to stay Democrat. The Senate races are much tighter where the Republicans are much more vulnerable than the Democrats.

House Elections
https://www.270towin.com/2020-house-election/

Senate Elections
https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Senate_elections,_2020
Twelve seats held by Democrats and 23 seats held by Republicans are up for election in 2020, including the Arizona special election and the Georgia special election. In 2014, the Republican Party picked up nine seats, resulting in their having more seats to defend in 2020. The map and table below show what seats are up for election and the current incumbent in each race.....Ballotpedia has identified 16 races as general election battlegrounds. Of the 16 seats, four have Democratic incumbents and 12 have Republican incumbents heading into the election.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/senate/

GOP, really only four competitive races, the others have entrenched incumbents, and Jones ain’t winning in Alabama, GOP maintains power but with a razor thin margin

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

My guess is that the pandemic has something to do with that. Note Trump's rallies have slowed down quite a bit. Only the dummies show up.

Agreed the Democrats tend to shoot themselves in the foot. They fucked up Obama's first 100 days by focusing on Healthcare instead of the economy, thereby not only burning a shitpot full of political capital, but slowing the recovery which would pay for the healthcare plan. I have no doubt they'll do the same next year by focusing on a gun ban.

The best thing the Democrats have going for them is Trump being a fuck up.....and his mouth/Twitter account.

Sorry, but the (D)s have little to no interest or enthusiasm for gun "bans." What we're most focused on is the pandemic, the economy, and health care. These three issues are intrinsically intertwined. Next comes social/racial justice, the environment, and education. We are going to see a large focus on education in a Biden presidency. Mrs. Dr. Biden is an educator and as FLOTUS she will be working hard.

Your poll should have also included "both" or "it will be tied." That's my best prediction right now.

 

[archives]

I suspect, more and more, that the Democrats are going to shoot themselves in the foot by November 3rd as they've been trying hard using a proverbial shotgun of stupidity as of late.

It's consistent pics like those that have me questioning the validity of the polls. Biden can't generate any enthusiasm at all for his campaign. His town halls, rallies, whatever have been utterly and completely lame and underwhelming. Trump's have large enthusiastic turnouts.

The rallies don’t mean anything, back in 2016 they were a novelty, just as Obama’s crowds were in 2008, now, nothing, only FOX covers them, and only Trumpkins attend/watch them. Biden purposely doesn’t have them, following COVID guidelines, which sells in his party, besides, they don’t want any Herman Cains on their record

It’s a wash, only significant to those that want to believe either strategy significant

 

[Dutch Uncle]

GOP, really only four competitive races, the others have entrenched incumbents, and Jones ain’t winning in Alabama, GOP maintains power but with a razor thin margin

That's my guess, but it's too close to call....or bet upon. https://www.predictit.org/markets/2/Senate

The betting favors the Democrats picking up 3-4 seats but it's a dicey bet.
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/6670/What-will-be-the-net-change-in-Senate-seats,-by-party

 

[archives]

That's my guess, but it's too close to call....or bet upon. https://www.predictit.org/markets/2/Senate

The betting favors the Democrats picking up 3-4 seats but it's a dicey bet.
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/6670/What-will-be-the-net-change-in-Senate-seats,-by-party

But with even four seats it won’t do it with Jones losing which is pretty much a given

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Sorry, but the (D)s have little to no interest or enthusiasm for gun "bans." What we're most focused on is the pandemic, the economy, and health care. These three issues are intrinsically intertwined. Next comes social/racial justice, the environment, and education. We are going to see a large focus on education in a Biden presidency. Mrs. Dr. Biden is an educator and as FLOTUS she will be working hard.

Your poll should have also included "both" or "it will be tied." That's my best prediction right now.

There is no "tie" since the VP is the tiebreaker. https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Majority_Minority_Leaders.htm

You and I can have a friendly bet that a gun ban bill will be on Biden's desk by Spring. It will be like Clinton's gun ban and the failed Obama gun ban. Biden uses the same language on his website: https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/
Get weapons of war off our streets. The bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines that Biden, along with Senator Feinstein, secured in 1994 reduced the lethality of mass shootings. But, in order to secure the passage of the bans, they had to agree to a 10-year sunset provision and when the time came, the Bush Administration failed to extend them. As president, Biden will:

• Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Federal law prevents hunters from hunting migratory game birds with more than three shells in their shotgun. That means our federal law does more to protect ducks than children. It’s wrong. Joe Biden will enact legislation to once again ban assault weapons. This time, the bans will be designed based on lessons learned from the 1994 bans. For example, the ban on assault weapons will be designed to prevent manufacturers from circumventing the law by making minor changes that don’t limit the weapon’s lethality. While working to pass this legislation, Biden will also use his executive authority to ban the importation of assault weapons.
• Regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act. Currently, the National Firearms Act requires individuals possessing machine-guns, silencers, and short-barreled rifles to undergo a background check and register those weapons with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Due to these requirements, such weapons are rarely used in crimes. As president, Biden will pursue legislation to regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act.
• Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities. Biden will also institute a program to buy back weapons of war currently on our streets. This will give individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines two options: sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

But with even four seats it won’t do it with Jones losing which is pretty much a given

I think that's net gain, not total gain. Even so, as you seem to agree, it's too close to call.

Regardless who wins the WH, who controls the Senate will have the greatest impact on whomever occupies the Oval Office.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

You and I can have a friendly bet that a gun ban bill will be on Biden's desk by Spring. It will be like Clinton's gun ban and the failed Obama gun ban. Biden uses the same language on his website: https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/
Get weapons of war off our streets. The bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines that Biden, along with Senator Feinstein, secured in 1994 reduced the lethality of mass shootings. But, in order to secure the passage of the bans, they had to agree to a 10-year sunset provision and when the time came, the Bush Administration failed to extend them. As president, Biden will:

• Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Federal law prevents hunters from hunting migratory game birds with more than three shells in their shotgun. That means our federal law does more to protect ducks than children. It’s wrong. Joe Biden will enact legislation to once again ban assault weapons. This time, the bans will be designed based on lessons learned from the 1994 bans. For example, the ban on assault weapons will be designed to prevent manufacturers from circumventing the law by making minor changes that don’t limit the weapon’s lethality. While working to pass this legislation, Biden will also use his executive authority to ban the importation of assault weapons.
• Regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act. Currently, the National Firearms Act requires individuals possessing machine-guns, silencers, and short-barreled rifles to undergo a background check and register those weapons with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Due to these requirements, such weapons are rarely used in crimes. As president, Biden will pursue legislation to regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act.
• Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities. Biden will also institute a program to buy back weapons of war currently on our streets. This will give individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines two options: sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act.

Their campaign websites say a lot of shit, shit that will not happen. There is little stomach among the (D)s right now for this kind of legislation. As I said, we have far bigger problems to fix, thanks to 3.5 years of incompetence.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

The rallies don’t mean anything, back in 2016 they were a novelty, just as Obama’s crowds were in 2008, now, nothing, only FOX covers them, and only Trumpkins attend/watch them. Biden purposely doesn’t have them, following COVID guidelines, which sells in his party, besides, they don’t want any Herman Cains on their record

It’s a wash, only significant to those that want to believe either strategy significant

I've noticed something interesting about the cult's Nuremberg rallies this time around. In 2016, the mainstream media was mesmerized by the Toadstool's energy, hints of violence, colorful rhetoric, etc. and gave #TRE45ON considerably more airtime than the other candidates -- combined. This time around, they only briefly show him up there ranting, then a couple shots of the mask-less group watching, then they segue into something about the pandemic, followed by showing a Biden gathering with social distancing and masks on. The message is clear -- they are showing that the IMPOTUS and his cult don't give a shit about the virus as long as they have their bread and circuses. It's almost subliminal but it's clearly there.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Their campaign websites say a lot of shit, shit that will not happen. There is little stomach among the (D)s right now for this kind of legislation. As I said, we have far bigger problems to fix, thanks to 3.5 years of incompetence.

It's been on the Democratic agenda for 28 years. They won't change now just like anti-abortionism is on the Republican agenda. They may soft-pedal the sell, but they'll both still push their agendas.

What's most fucked up, IMO, is that neither of those things will solve what they seek to solve.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

It's been on the Democratic agenda for 28 years. They won't change now just like anti-abortionism is on the Republican agenda. They may soft-pedal the sell, but they'll both still push their agendas.

What's most fucked up, IMO, is that neither of those things will solve what they seek to solve.

I sure do agree with that last sentence.