Left Wing Liberal Extremist Texan Wants to Ban Freedom of Choice

[Mott the Hoople]

There will be plenty of emphezema cases once it is legalized, because the smoke inhalation of dope is vastly greater than that of tobacco.

True. But THC is no where near as addictive nor even remotely as toxic as nicotene.

The point here is not that pot is innoucous, it's not, but that tobacco is incredibly dangerous. Even rampant marijauna use does not come close to the public health threat that tobacco represents.

More people will die this year from tobacco then all the people who have died from using illicit drugs in the last 200 years, by orders of magnitude.

 

[Minister of Truth]

Yes, but once marijuana is legalized, it will be a consumer item like tobacco. Tobacco will probably lose its popularity to youngsters even more, and then problems with marijuana will rival it. Nicotine will be the drug of cancer, and THC will be the drug of emphezema and the #2 drug of DUI fatalities.

 

[Cancel10]

This is absurd.

Bars exist for smoking and drinking. Bar owners should have every right to permit smoking in their establishment, just as they would in their home. People who don't like it can take their business elsewhere.

 

[Minister of Truth]

This is absurd.

Bars exist for smoking and drinking. Bar owners should have every right to permit smoking in their establishment, just as they would in their home. People who don't like it can take their business elsewhere.

Not really. Bars and bowling alleys (two places where a lot of smoking used to go on at) have always been most closely associated with drinking. Bars, while they serve meals and provide entertainment (such as sports nights, dancing, and singing) have always existed for the sole purpose of providing alcohol.

While I think smoking bans are gay and unconstitutional, its not like you are attacking the establishment of the bar or bowling alley by banning smoking. Certainly you are hurting business and lowering revenues, but...

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Yes, but once marijuana is legalized, it will be a consumer item like tobacco. Tobacco will probably lose its popularity to youngsters even more, and then problems with marijuana will rival it. Nicotine will be the drug of cancer, and THC will be the drug of emphezema and the #2 drug of DUI fatalities.

You're missing the point here. It's not about pot. No one claimed Pot is not harmless rather the comment was that it is not even remotely close to being the public health threat that tobacco is, legal or not.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

This is absurd.

Bars exist for smoking and drinking. Bar owners should have every right to permit smoking in their establishment, just as they would in their home. People who don't like it can take their business elsewhere.

You know how they get around that in Ohio? Smoking clubs. When I want to have a smoke and a drink I take my bottle of whiskey up to the local cigar store with a walk in humidor and a smoking lobby.

It's ironic. If you go to a store thats primary business is for smokers, it's ok to smoke there but if the primary business is serving alcohol it's not ok to smoke there.

Having said that, I've never heard of anyone getting cancer from second hand alcohol fumes! LOL

You're argument is based on a false premise. Bars exist and are licensed to serve alcohol, with that license comes strings and a state can damned well regulate smoking in public places to protect the public interest or safety.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Not really. Bars and bowling alleys (two places where a lot of smoking used to go on at) have always been most closely associated with drinking. Bars, while they serve meals and provide entertainment (such as sports nights, dancing, and singing) have always existed for the sole purpose of providing alcohol.

While I think smoking bans are gay and unconstitutional, its not like you are attacking the establishment of the bar or bowling alley by banning smoking. Certainly you are hurting business and lowering revenues, but...

Here in Ohio bars, on average, have lost about 25% of their revenue due to the smoking ban. Liquor stores have seen a coresponding increase in business as people are having their smoke and drink at home. The economic situation isn't helping bars either as it's much cheaper to come home and have a couple of drinks and a smoke then it is to go to a bar.

 

[Minister of Truth]

You're missing the point here. It's not about pot. No one claimed Pot is not harmless rather the comment was that it is not even remotely close to being the public health threat that tobacco is, legal or not.

You're missing the point that you cannot compare the health risk of an illegal drug to tobacco. Once pot is legal, they will be much closer in levels of risk. Now, I personally don't care, and welcome the legalization of pot.

You know how they get around that in Ohio? Smoking clubs. When I want to have a smoke and a drink I take my bottle of whiskey up to the local cigar store with a walk in humidor and a smoking lobby.

It's ironic. If you go to a store thats primary business is for smokers, it's ok to smoke there but if the primary business is serving alcohol it's not ok to smoke there.

Having said that, I've never heard of anyone getting cancer from second hand alcohol fumes! LOL

You're argument is based on a false premise. Bars exist and are licensed to serve alcohol, with that license comes strings and a state can damned well regulate smoking in public places to protect the public interest or safety.

Why can a state do this, again?