Biden to eliminate oil and gas by 2035

[Old Trapper]

Define 'benefit for the poor'. Please describe specifically what you think Trump or any other conservative (by name) has done to deny 'benefits for the poor'.
Please describe in detail these welfare payments the top 1% of earners receive.

https://tvc.dsj.org/2018/03/16/trumps-budget-stealing-from-the-poor-to-give-to-the-rich/

Only the House has the power of the purse. They are the only ones that can spend money the government doesn't have. Who's controlling the House right now? Democrats.

And trump does not introduce a budget, or sign one into law, right.

So you think the open street is the same environment as shelter under an overpass?

Not at all, however, I am not so stupid as to think that the environment under the bridge is the same as the environment that surrounds the globe.

 

[IBDaMann]

Even you can't be this stupid.

Apparently you can be. Apparently you have not yet heard about the new field of study that experts are calling "geology." It's fascinating.

 

[IBDaMann]

https://tvc.dsj.org/2018/03/16/trumps-budget-stealing-from-the-poor-to-give-to-the-rich/

Learn how the government works. You are wasting everyone's time.

Congress, not the President, controls the budget.

And trump does not introduce a budget, or sign one into law, right.

Learn how the government works. You are wasting everyone's time.

The President merely provides information to Congress, e.g. how much $$ each office is claiming they "need" and does not impose any obligation onto Congress nor garners any say in the final budget.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

the Green New Deal is insane.
Trump correctly pointed out our Nat Gas has made the USA the largest reduction of carbon.

Biden wants us back in the Paris Accord -and can do it by XO

Biden is gonna eliminate oil and gas by 2035? That's great. I was gonna vote for Donald mini-strokes Trump but after hearing that, I'm definitely Ridin' with Biden.

 

[cancel2 2022]

Easier done than said...


https://environmentalprogress.org/b...g e-waste dumps into drinking water supplies .


https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...hey-produce-so-much-toxic-waste/#4ab27f11121c


https://fee.org/articles/solar-panels-produce-tons-of-toxic-waste-literally/

https://www.electrosmogprevention.o...r-panel-systems/health-risks-of-solar-panels/
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...r-panel-manufacturing-sustainability-ranking/
https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/solar/the-mounting-solar-panel-waste-problem/

PV solar waste and chemical hazards from production are a bigger environmental threat than expanding nuclear power massively. That's how bad solar is. It's the equivalent of having batteries full of toxic metals and chemicals that can't be easily recycled and have a lifetime of 15 to 30 years then are disposed of by landfill.

I've been through all.this with Runeatic before, sadly he has a goldfish memory and a mistaken belief that he's intelligent.

 

[cancel2 2022]

wtf is "lift NYC?" NYC is built on bedrock

you type these bizarre claims without cites. STFU

Rune gets more and more deranged every year.

 

[Granule]

Biden does not believe that. He wants us to put our emphasis on the energies of the future. He was talking about electric cars and solar and wind. They will replace fossil fuels when they are ready, It would be nice if they replaced fossil poison fuels by 2035. That is a good target. But there are no penalties for missing or getting it earlier.
Why is trying to end gas and oil a bad thing? They are poisons and major pollutants that make poison pits where ever they are extracted.

Biden wants everyone living in caves. Why can't you perverts be honest about this? You don't give a shit about "energies of the future" otherwise California would be going somewhere.

 

[cancel2 2022]

Right, but the cost of the "conventional generation" (re: carbon pollution) is much more expensive in the long run, as we are seeing right now.

That's why so many fracking companies are going bankrupt (far more than any renewables).

Over the last decade, no less than 42 major natural gas companies, including Chesapeake, have gone under.

Bankruptcies among fracking-focused exploration and production companies covered $26 billion in debt held by 42 firms last year. That doubled the $13 billion in debt a year earlier, according to law firm Hayes & Boone.
https://www.investors.com/news/us-s...focused exploration,to law firm Hayes & Boone.

Plus, there's the pollution and waste that comes from fossil fuel energy...those have costs, both monetary and environmental that we pay for down the line (oil spills, pipeline bursts, earthquakes, fires).

Those costs are not there for renewable energy. Never heard of a "sun spill".

They are going bankrupt because the price of oil is so low, shit for brains!

 

[LV426]

They are going bankrupt because the price of oil is so low, shit for brains!

Fracking is natural gas, not oil.

 

[anatta]

Biden has as much chance of eliminating oil and gas as Trump has of making Mexico pay for the wall, paying down the debt, repeal and replace Obamacare, rebuilding infrastructure, prosecuting Hillary, or deporting all illegal immigrants.

he can fuck it all up with regs and taxes, and crash the economy/recovery. Europe has screwed up their energy policies Germany is burning wood pellates for heat

There is nothing wrong with phasing in renewable where they are economically competitive
Building trillions of infrastructure takes careful planning -not just sticking charging stations along roads

 

[Old Trapper]

Learn how the government works. You are wasting everyone's time.

Congress, not the President, controls the budget.


Learn how the government works. You are wasting everyone's time.

The President merely provides information to Congress, e.g. how much $$ each office is claiming they "need" and does not impose any obligation onto Congress nor garners any say in the final budget.

Really would be nice if you brain dead dumb f**ks would learn something regardless how difficult it may be. If, and remember that word, if what you think would be even close to true then we would have a second stimulus package for the people already. Unfortuanately the "President" has VETO power over any budget, and this can only be overturned by a 2/3's majority in the House.

But hey, you love wasting everyones time being the asshat fool you are.

 

[Earl]

Biden wants everyone living in caves. Why can't you perverts be honest about this? You don't give a shit about "energies of the future" otherwise California would be going somewhere.

This is where California is today.

"Wildfire risk in California prompts PG&E power cuts to 361,000 customers."
https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/...ather-public-safety-power-shutoff-psps-outage

They can't keep the lights on in California.

 

[Old Trapper]

do you think renewables can power NYCity.

It would take a wind farm the size of Long Island.. how about manufacturing ( energy dependent industries)
Do you know how badly solar farms wreck the enviornment

Google, Facebook, and several others are all solar here in Central Oregon. Working out great.

 

[Rune]

Would that not render my arguments susceptible to rejection due to a lack of supporting evidence, Your Majesty?

Lol

 

[Legion]

Google, Facebook, and several others are all solar here in Central Oregon. Working out great.

Who told you that, Mature Masturbator?

 

[Legion]

Fracking is natural gas, not oil.

Shale oil is extracted by fracking.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellynch/2019/11/01/the-disastrous-impact-of-a-fracking-ban-on-u-s-oil-production/#2a3fd79829ac

Oil and gas are also competitive commodities in many applications, aren't they?

 

[Flash]

Nope. Mexico is also paying for the wall. Why would you want to replace Obamacare?? It should be repealed.

Nope, Mexico is paying for none of the wall. They are not going to repeal Obamacare without replacing it with a new plan according to President Trump.

 

[Flash]

he can fuck it all up with regs and taxes, and crash the economy/recovery. Europe has screwed up their energy policies Germany is burning wood pellates for heat

There is nothing wrong with phasing in renewable where they are economically competitive
Building trillions of infrastructure takes careful planning -not just sticking charging stations along roads

He can't do much without the agreement of the House and Senate.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Shale oil is extracted by fracking.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellynch/2019/11/01/the-disastrous-impact-of-a-fracking-ban-on-u-s-oil-production/#2a3fd79829ac

Oil and gas are also competitive commodities in many applications, aren't they?

In fact it has expanded to other parts of the mining industry. A similar method is now usable for copper extraction. An sulfuric acid mixture is pumped into a copper formation, particularly low grade secondary copper like malachite and azurite where it dissolves the copper into copper sulfate and is then pumped back to the surface for recovery of the copper by electrolysis.

https://minewiki.engineering.queensu.ca/mediawiki/index.php/Solution_mining

This eliminates the need for open pit mining or underground mining and allows price effective removal of copper ores economically unrecoverable by those methods.

 

[Legion]

In fact it has expanded to other parts of the mining industry. A similar method is now usable for copper extraction. An sulfuric acid mixture is pumped into a copper formation, particularly low grade secondary copper like malachite and azurite where it dissolves the copper into copper sulfate and is then pumped back to the surface for recovery of the copper by electrolysis. This eliminates the need for open pit mining or underground mining and allows price effective removal of copper ores economically unrecoverable by those methods.

But...

Fracking is natural gas, not oil.