Unity

Unity = "I will be better if you are better."

And, scaling that up to the we/they theory, WE will be better if THEY are better.

After that, all we have to do is work out national policy based on the input of liberals and conservatives.

Creating a more perfect union is a snap!

Let's get to it, shall we?
 
Hello Jarod,

Jarod said:
I did not mention forgiveness.
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Makes sense.

But then how could there be true unity without forgiveness?

Unity means everyone has some skin in the game. Making demands but being unwilling to make concessions does not lead to unity.

Do you want unity or not?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Jarod,



Makes sense.

But then how could there be true unity without forgiveness?

Unity means everyone has some skin in the game. Making demands but being unwilling to make concessions does not lead to unity.

Do you want unity or not?
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There are some things and some people that cannot exist in the world of unity. Sedition is one of those things, people who have supported sedition are those people.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
So, in other words, any serious opposition to Democrat ideas, positions, and policy by individual Republicans should be dealt with by their ejection from office and their party until the Republican party is the same as the Democrat party in ideas, positions, and policy.... How dictatorial and authoritarian...
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Oh for heaven's sake dude!

If you don't understand how what Cruz and Hawley did that violates the Constitution, then listen up.

The Constitution does not give Congress the power to reject electoral votes submitted by the states.

If it does, please tell us where it says that they can hold up an election, to try and change the votes already verified and approved by the delegates and state officials.

These two idiots knew they were violating the Constitution by not accepting the vote counts.
 
Hello Jarod,

Jarod said:
There are some things and some people that cannot exist in the world of unity. Sedition is one of those things, people who have supported sedition are those people.
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How much of the nation do you consider as having supported sedition?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Just more crazy horseshit from you. Sane people know that there are still 50 Republican Senators and the Republicans made gains in the House this past election.
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50 GOP Senators means nothing to me.

We don't need them at all to recover the economy.

We can leave them behind.
 
LV426 said:
50 GOP Senators means nothing to me.

We don't need them at all to recover the economy.

We can leave them behind.
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What do 51 or more Republican Senators do for ya?

Anyone who's been in a successful relationship knows nobody likes being taken for granted. There's an old business saying about being careful of the toes you are stepping on today because they might be attached to the ass you're kissing tomorrow.

Diplomacy has a part here...although I prefer my definition of the dog and the rock.

If the Democratic party is serious about unity, like in a successful relationship, they'll show it. Protecting the nation from ever seeing again their own Capitol overrun by fantacial insurrectionists, much less them having been sent their by a sitting President, should be a top bipartisan priority behind COVID and it's economic impact on the nation.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Jarod,



How much of the nation do you consider as having supported sedition?
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Zero. All the insurrectionists believed their leader Trump and thought they were saving the nation. This was fanaticism pure and simple with Trump as the Cult leader handing out the Kool-Aid.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
What do 51 or more Republican Senators do for ya?
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Nothing.

Literally nothing.

That's what they did the last time they had 51+ seats...nothing.

So I'm not concerned or worried that I'm missing out on wonderful ideas from the same people who tried to insurrect against our government, and did absolutely nothing for us when they had control.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Anyone who's been in a successful relationship knows nobody likes being taken for granted. There's an old business saying about being careful of the toes you are stepping on today because they might be attached to the ass you're kissing tomorrow. .
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Yep...McConnell sure as shit is realizing that now. And his strategy of threatening filibuster to prevent any agenda from moving forward is as good an argument to remove the filibuster as any that has been made by those on the left.

So I think you're trying to apply pressure that should be applied to Conservatives, to the liberals who won the House, Senate, and Presidency without your help.

I don't forget that...you didn't help at all when it came to Trump.

So why the fuck do you think you're helping today?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Protecting the nation from ever seeing again their own Capitol overrun by fantacial insurrectionists, much less them having been sent their by a sitting President, should be a top bipartisan priority behind COVID and it's economic impact on the nation.
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Here's the thing, though, Dutch...the Republicans supported that insurrection.

So how do you unify with that?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
What do 51 or more Republican Senators do for ya?

Anyone who's been in a successful relationship knows nobody likes being taken for granted. There's an old business saying about being careful of the toes you are stepping on today because they might be attached to the ass you're kissing tomorrow.

Diplomacy has a part here...although I prefer my definition of the dog and the rock.

If the Democratic party is serious about unity, like in a successful relationship, they'll show it. Protecting the nation from ever seeing again their own Capitol overrun by fantacial insurrectionists, much less them having been sent their by a sitting President, should be a top bipartisan priority behind COVID and it's economic impact on the nation.
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"unity":

Inspired by some in Texas’ far-right, Wyoming GOP chair floats secession in wake of Capitol siege
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/01...op-chair-floats-secession-wake-capitol-siege/

Now, by all means, tell me how you unify with that?
 
Dutch, how does one unite with secessionists?

Seems like a logical fallacy, doesn't it?

You can't unite with people who want to secede.

Secession is literally the opposite of unity.
 
LV426 said:
They have. Biden showed it yesterday in his speech. Then McConnell went on the floor of the Senate and made threats.

So much for unity.
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So you believe everything a man tells you? Fascinating. :)

Yes, men can be assholes. Deal with it by showing they have to deal with you. Not in a vengeful bitch sort of way, but in a "everyone has equal rights under the law" sort of way.
 
LV426 said:
Dutch, how does one unite with secessionists?

Seems like a logical fallacy, doesn't it?

You can't unite with people who want to secede.

Secession is literally the opposite of unity.
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One of my old maxims was "Kill'em all, let God sort them out". You're spouting the same ideology in a softer way.

Either way it's silly and won't work in the long run. :)
 
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