DeSantis proposes daily fines for Big Tech that deplatform political candidates

[Underdog]

And sites as “Rose City Antifa” on FB are the very sites actual Antifa followers would avoid, if you see them all the time, the authorities surely see them also, not quite the vehicle a serious whatever they are suppose to be would follow, as I said, it is the dark web, and Trump can go there if he likes

Why would they avoid rose city antifa facebook page? thats the oldest antifa group in the united states. their leader is caroline victorin

 

[Underdog]

Big tech will tell him to go fuck himself, he can't fine them.

lol your love of big tech oligarchs is funny, dumbshit.

 

[anatta]

Big tech will tell him to go fuck himself, he can't fine them.

correct,
The fascists run S.media, and the Dems love it.

 

[LV426]

correct, The fascists run S.media, and the Dems love it.

Zuckerberg loves Trump way more than he loves Bernie Sanders...

And yes, the fascists do run social media...that's why the top ten shared pieces of content on Facebook are always Conservative posts and links.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

lies. it was never said to "go storm the capitiol"

Trump’s speech included no overt calls for his supporters to actually enter the Capitol or resort to violent means.
He urged his supporters to “fight” and “fight like hell”
he said those who would march to the Capitol after his speech should “peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard,”

Sorry, but that's unmitigated bullshit. If I say Trump diddled Ivanka when she was 12, I can honestly say "Bu.bu..but I never called Trump a Pedophile!!"

Trump rallied his true believers, pumped them up with heated rhetoric and then pointed them at the Capitol to "Stop the Steal" and "Fight" for their country.

The best witnesses against Trump are the very people who believed him before Trump threw all of them under the bus.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...trumps-speech-at-rally-before-us-capitol-riot
....Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about. And to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with: We will stop the steal. Today I will lay out just some of the evidence proving that we won this election and we won it by a landslide. This was not a close election.

....Republicans are, Republicans are constantly fighting like a boxer with his hands tied behind his back. It’s like a boxer. And we want to be so nice. We want to be so respectful of everybody, including bad people. And we’re going to have to fight much harder....

...And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.

Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun. My fellow Americans, for our movement, for our children, and for our beloved country.

And I say this despite all that’s happened. The best is yet to come.

So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we’re going to the Capitol, and we’re going to try and give.

The Democrats are hopeless, they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don’t need any of our help. We’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.

So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue....

 

[anatta]

No, it doesn't.

Here's the actual first amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I don't see anything in there indicating what lie you're telling.




So you just qualified yourself again. Why am I not surprised?

You're not even an American, so I don't even know why you are pretending to be one.




No, the foundation is the right to vote. That's the foundation.
Stop playing pretend.

the first preceeds the right to vote. it's enshrined as such -without free speech there cannot be an informed electorate
I didnt "qualify" i explained, and uses the same term without

 

[Dutch Uncle]

"take it to the warzone"


I hear trinnity is coming for you.

Tell Trinnity she's going to be heavily fined and possibly go to jail, but you I suspect will ultimately end up in an insane asylum after your "weekend jail" term is over.

 

[Concart]

nothing matters except what you think matters. STFU.

There is nothing wrong with saying the election was stolen either. It's a political speech -it's an opinion
conspiratorial nonsense

Yes, there IS something wrong with claiming falsely that the election was stolen. It is not an opinion. It is a lie.

 

[LV426]

the first preceeds the right to vote.

The right to vote is in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights came after.

it's enshrined as such -without free speech there cannot be an informed electorate

Right, but lying to people isn't protected speech, particularly when those lies incite others to act violently.

Like the lies you told about the election being stolen, or the lie you told about getting the unsolicited mail-in ballot.

I didnt "qualify" i explained, and uses the same term without

Your explanation changed the themes of what you were saying. So you moved goalposts, you redefined parameters...you were just sloppy and messy.

 

[anatta]

Sorry, but that's unmitigated bullshit. If I say Trump diddled Ivanka when she was 12, I can honestly say "Bu.bu..but I never called Trump a Pedophile!!"

Trump rallied his true believers, pumped them up with heated rhetoric and then pointed them at the Capitol to "Stop the Steal" and "Fight" for their country.

The best witnesses against Trump are the very people who believed him before Trump threw all of them under the bus.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...trumps-speech-at-rally-before-us-capitol-riot
....Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about. And to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with: We will stop the steal. Today I will lay out just some of the evidence proving that we won this election and we won it by a landslide. This was not a close election.

....Republicans are, Republicans are constantly fighting like a boxer with his hands tied behind his back. It’s like a boxer. And we want to be so nice. We want to be so respectful of everybody, including bad people. And we’re going to have to fight much harder....

...And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.

Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun. My fellow Americans, for our movement, for our children, and for our beloved country.

And I say this despite all that’s happened. The best is yet to come.

So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we’re going to the Capitol, and we’re going to try and give.

The Democrats are hopeless, they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don’t need any of our help. We’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.

So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue....

have you ever been to a rally in DC? they are always "pumped up"by speakers.
I heard the same at anti-war rallies during Vietnam, and the rioters were blamed, not any speakers.
Do we hold a speaker accountable for the acts of others, except in the rare case of incitement?

"words have meaning" read the speech, there is no incitement as you will soon see during the faux-impeachment

 

[anatta]

The right to vote is in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights came after.

as did modifying the vote to a popular vote

Right, but lying to people isn't protected speech, particularly when those lies incite others to act violently.

read the speech. no incitement

Your explanation changed the themes of what you were saying. So you moved goalposts, you redefined parameters...you were just sloppy and messy.

your squishy brain jumped to conclusions what I was saying
I never argued the first applied to Smedia

 

[Dutch Uncle]

It is sublime. Basically, the proposal goes like this: Private social media companies may enforce their terms of service.... except in the case of a politician. No TOS for them, they can say whatever the fuck they want. Because they are a 'protected class'. The stupidity needed to advance that argument leaves me speechless. I agree, I think more on the high side of that time frame.

That's exactly what the Trumpeteers are pushing. $100 says SCOTUS will say they are wrong....if it goes that far. It'll probably go as far as the dozens of Trump lies and legal attempts to overturn the election.

 

[anatta]

Yes, there IS something wrong with claiming falsely that the election was stolen. It is not an opinion. It is a lie.

you might not like it, you may say it's a lie -there is a mountain of evidence of "irregularities" to the contrary.

I make the opinion that ballot harvesting caused the loss in key swing districts.
Ballot harvesting is impossible to prove after the fact.
Is my speech protected?

 

[LV426]

as did modifying the vote to a popular vote

Right, so then what you said before was horseshit, then.

read the speech. no incitement

Yes, incitement. Plenty of it. He lied about the election being stolen. He then told them to "fight like hell" and "not show weakness", he told them he loved them, and he told them to go to the Capitol to "fight like hell."

Are you arguing that Trump was being figurative and the people took him literally?

 

[LV426]

your squishy brain jumped to conclusions what I was saying

OMG, how dare I form a conclusion out of something you said. Oh the horror!

I never argued the first applied to Smedia

Sure ya did...you're trying to do it right now by arguing that lying about the election being stolen and whipping people into a frenzy because of it is protected speech. It's not. It's literally incitement that you're describing.

 

[Underdog]

Tell Trinnity she's going to be heavily fined and possibly go to jail, but you I suspect will ultimately end up in an insane asylum after your "weekend jail" term is over.

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"take it to the warzone"



I don't get how you get such a free pass to be the douche you are.



I'm trying not to respond outside the war room, perhaps you can do the same instead of fucking up every thread with your personal bullshit.

 

[LV426]

you might not like it, you may say it's a lie -there is a mountain of evidence of "irregularities" to the contrary.

No there isn't. This is a lie. Another lie that you tell, just like how you lied about COVID, just like how you lied about getting an unsolicited mail-in ballot.

All you have done on JPP is lie.

I make the opinion that ballot harvesting caused the loss in key swing districts.

You call it "ballot harvesting", I call it "a dropbox where people can drop off their ballots."

So you're stretching the definition so you don't have to admit you're lying.

Ballot harvesting is impossible to prove after the fact.

So then I guess your opinion on it is bullshit, then.

Is my speech protected?

Your election lies aren't. If someone really wanted to, they could make a case that you are inciting violence by lying about the election.

If someone from JPP acted on the lies you told, and those lies were submitted as evidence in court, you would be open to liability in a civil lawsuit at the very least.

 

[Concart]

you might not like it, you may say it's a lie -there is a mountain of evidence of "irregularities" to the contrary.

I make the opinion that ballot harvesting caused the loss in key swing districts.
Ballot harvesting is impossible to prove after the fact.
Is my speech protected?

Yes, but you're approaching the line. You are also galactically stupid, but stupid speech is protected. But that's not what we're talking about here. We are talking about conspiracy theories that are being foisted, and the 'stop the steal' movement is a conspiracy theory. Those should not find a voice on social media platforms.

 

[LV426]

Yes, but you're approaching the line. You are also galactically stupid, but stupid speech is protected. But that's not what we're talking about here. We are talking about conspiracy theories that are being foisted, and the 'stop the steal' movement is a conspiracy theory. Those should not find a voice on social media platforms.

No one on JPP has spread more election lies than Anatta.

 

[Hoosier Daddy]

so many of these tech social media companies take federal subsidies and get tax breaks, making then quasi government owned.



It's people like you who are fucked supporting tech oligarchs deplatforming entire viewpoints.


you wouldnt be so cheery if it was your sides speech that was in question.

bullshit. i got banned from facebook for 30 days just for describing ted cruz as a fake christian pig!! so what? it is their store, their rules. right wingers are just crybabies.