We have to split up!

Dutch Uncle said:
TBH, I think Trump has more to worry about from the militias than Dr. Frankenstein did his monster after fucking over the beast.

The hardcore center of the militias are all ex-military. They know what a Blue Falcon is, a Buddy Fucker. They hate Buddy Fuckers more than the enemy because at least the enemy is honest about trying to harm them.

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With luck maybe he can share a jail cell with one.
 
Micawber said:
The swan song of a very ugly duck. So your big plan is..... nothing. Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha!

You, personally, are a fucking loser. And a sore one. :chuckle:
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They spent untold millions of dollars to get Trump and Republicans elected. They lost. They spent untold millions of dollars to challenge the results of the election. They lost. They spent the better part of a year building doubt against the validity of the election before it even happened. They lost. They spent three months spinning the most absurd conspiracy theories that I have ever heard in electoral politics. They lost that too.

Cue Stone now saying that they meant to lose as part of their super secret plot to give Democrats the political power that they won in order to watch them implode. But not just in 2020! He's already saying that they're planning to lose again in two years cuz they're so sneaky like a fox.

I feel like we're watching a toddler try to learn how to hold a fork.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed, which is why the GOP is dead and whatever the Republican party is now is destroying them.

Alt Righties bitching about China as they both go to and from Harbor Freight for tools and supplies is like a faux Christian bitching about the homos and quoting Leviticus while eating a pulled pork sandwich.
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Great analogy. Most of the Reichtards whining about China, or global trade in general, don't have a clue about how their standard of living has been greatly enhanced because of it. They don't seem to understand that manufacturing is just as strong in the U.S. as ever, it's just done with fewer people. They don't understand that if we want those not academically-inclined to have jobs, we need to provide them with the training necessary and for as cheaply as possible. Here is what one blue state is doing to further employment for both.

https://www.michigan.gov/reconnect

From the link:

These programs and initiatives support Michigan’s goal to increase the number of working-age adults with a skill certificate or college degree from 45% today to 60% by 2030.

Sixty by 30 seeks to build a better Michigan in three ways:

Increase opportunity for all Michiganders and give residents greater access to the education and skills that create opportunities for better jobs and bigger paychecks.

Close the skills gap that challenges the success of our businesses and our state’s prosperity. Jobs requiring skilled employees today, as well as jobs on the horizon, demand greater education and training than ever before.

Make Michigan more competitive for inclusive economic growth.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
It's a sound strategy for an individual, but am not sure it will work for a political party covering 50 American states. That means electing President Harris in 2024 and 2028 plus letting the Democrats have both sides of Congress for the next 12-18 years. I'm not sure I can last that long. ;)
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If that happens you might find out looking back that by all objective economic indicators we are doing much better than now.;)
 
Dutch Uncle said:
It's a sound strategy for an individual, but am not sure it will work for a political party covering 50 American states. That means electing President Harris in 2024 and 2028 plus letting the Democrats have both sides of Congress for the next 12-18 years. I'm not sure I can last that long. ;)
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You are giving them wayyyyyyyyyy too much credit. They destroy things way faster than that. Obama got ROUTED after two years. This plan takes 4. But 4 of total Dem control. They will run this thing into the ground until it is unrecognizable. GOOD. Then we will rebuild..
 
Diesel said:
They spent untold millions of dollars to get Trump and Republicans elected. They lost. They spent untold millions of dollars to challenge the results of the election. They lost. They spent the better part of a year building doubt against the validity of the election before it even happened. They lost. They spent three months spinning the most absurd conspiracy theories that I have ever heard in electoral politics. They lost that too.

Cue Stone now saying that they meant to lose as part of their super secret plot to give Democrats the political power that they won in order to watch them implode. But not just in 2020! He's already saying that they're planning to lose again in two years cuz they're so sneaky like a fox.

I feel like we're watching a toddler try to learn how to hold a fork.
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I believe he already insinuated that, which is why I am laughing at him.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
It's a sound strategy for an individual, but am not sure it will work for a political party covering 50 American states. That means electing President Harris in 2024 and 2028 plus letting the Democrats have both sides of Congress for the next 12-18 years. I'm not sure I can last that long. ;)
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I doubt I will last that long either but one never knows, but it would be nice for me and the Nation to never see another trump sitting in the WH again.
 
Stone said:
No,.... instead what we are going to do is eventually take the whole thing from you. ALL OF IT....from top to bottom. The John Galt plan is in effect. We wont be retaking the house in 22,...we dont want it. We want you to have all the levers of power because that way when you drive this thing into the ground,....and you know you will,....it will push untold millions to our side. By all means....you guys should enact every crazy leftist policy you can think of over the next few years. PLEASE DO. ;) It is your time in the barrel now. Nobody else to blame. It is ALL YOU.....when you falter...it will also be seen as ALL YOU. WERE COMING FOR YOU.......;)
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What you just described here is exactly what happened to the GOP. Republicans "drove this thing into the ground," and "untold millions" are currently leaving the party.

You know that, right?
 
Concart said:
Our relationship with China is complex and nuanced..... and the Trump cult is not. Which is why they use this meme. It makes a nice soundbite, and it requires a nuanced discussion to debunk that soundbite. They need soundbites like 'Hillary sold our Uranium to the Russians', or 'no collusion'. They are not capable of discussing in depth what those things mean. They just post them, and when you disagree, they say 'fuck you faggot'. This is the level of discourse at JPP. It is what it is.

As for your first point, IMHO, the Democratic party (I hate the term 'leftist') has always been the party of the working class. They have sadly fallen victim to big money as well, but at their heart, Democrats are the party of Roosevelt and Johnson. They are a party that at their core believes that a rising tide lifts all boats. That is a sharp contrast to the core economic value of Republicans, which is 'trust the rich to keep the economy afloat'. We have plenty of evidence to determine which works best, but Republicans are incredibly skilled at getting people to vote against their economic interest by providing them with boogeymen. Mostly through racist dog whistles.
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To quote Walter Russell Meade on the Jacksonian tradition (one of four he develops as his thesis) in American politics, "the problems are complex, the answers are simple."
 
Micawber said:
If that happens you might find out looking back that by all objective economic indicators we are doing much better than now.;)
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And THAT is the beauty of THE PLAN. If that happens, which it wont,...but In the unlikely event it did......then we WIN and prosper right along with you. :laugh: The PLAN is old....the plan is correct,... we win and prosper with you... or we destroy you. ;)
 
Stone said:
You are giving them wayyyyyyyyyy too much credit. They destroy things way faster than that. Obama got ROUTED after two years. This plan takes 4. But 4 of total Dem control. They will run this thing into the ground until it is unrecognizable. GOOD. Then we will rebuild..
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Disagreed. I'd be truly surprised if the Republicans make much headway, if any, in 2022. President Harris in 2024 is a foregone conclusion. The best chance of taking back Congress will be 2026 and the WH in 2028 but that requires the Republicans to stop being fucking morons catering to a minority group of nutjobs like the militias and the Qless.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Interestingly, most lefties I know, including myself, are on the side of the working folk as well. We see how the (R)s destroyed the unions, the middle class, shipped jobs overseas for the lower taxes and cheaper labor and lack of environmental regulations. Somehow though the (R)s and the Cult have been convinced that everyone on the left is an elitest with a college degree who sneers at "the little man." Lefties need to get our message back and reach these guys.

ETA: I think the reason that the Reichwing media is pushing the Joe is soft on China meme is because they know that he appeals to working class people and cares about their concerns. But if they can paint China as the job-stealing economic enemy and Joe as their enabler, the RWers will believe it.
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Wtf do you think the TPP is that Biden just signed us up for? It's NAFTA 2 ! , Duh! ^It does exactly what is bolded up there.

And it wasn't "the right" , it was the elitist politicians like Biden that did NAFTA. It was Bush and Clinton to be more accurate.
 
Micawber said:
If that happens you might find out looking back that by all objective economic indicators we are doing much better than now.;)
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Meh. 2020 would have been a write-off with the pandemic. Trump fucking up the response hurt us even more, but our economy would have been hammered even if Mistress Hillary was cracking the whip in the WH.
 
CASPER said:
I doubt I will last that long either but one never knows, but it would be nice for me and the Nation to never see another trump sitting in the WH again.
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Agreed, but I doubt Trump will run again. He's pissed off the wrong people: His own army of terrorists.
 
BartenderElite said:
What you just described here is exactly what happened to the GOP. Republicans "drove this thing into the ground," and "untold millions" are currently leaving the party.

You know that, right?
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Correct. Now the Republicans have to rebuild and they need to do it without the Qless, the militias and the religious wackadoodles.
 
Concart said:
Our relationship with China is complex and nuanced..... and the Trump cult is not. Which is why they use this meme. It makes a nice soundbite, and it requires a nuanced discussion to debunk that soundbite. They need soundbites like 'Hillary sold our Uranium to the Russians', or 'no collusion'. They are not capable of discussing in depth what those things mean. They just post them, and when you disagree, they say 'fuck you faggot'. This is the level of discourse at JPP. It is what it is.

As for your first point, IMHO, the Democratic party (I hate the term 'leftist') has always been the party of the working class. They have sadly fallen victim to big money as well, but at their heart, Democrats are the party of Roosevelt and Johnson. They are a party that at their core believes that a rising tide lifts all boats. That is a sharp contrast to the core economic value of Republicans, which is 'trust the rich to keep the economy afloat'. We have plenty of evidence to determine which works best, but Republicans are incredibly skilled at getting people to vote against their economic interest by providing them with boogeymen. Mostly through racist dog whistles.
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This is an excellent analysis. I hope that Biden is up to the task of rebuilding the (D)s' rapport with average working people. It's going to be very difficult precisely because of your last sentence there about racism. Reichwing media has done an outstanding job of persuading their audience that the (D)s only care about "identity politics" -- i.e., they only represent POC, non-Xtians, women, "outsiders."
 
Diesel said:
They spent untold millions of dollars to get Trump and Republicans elected. They lost. They spent untold millions of dollars to challenge the results of the election. They lost. They spent the better part of a year building doubt against the validity of the election before it even happened. They lost. They spent three months spinning the most absurd conspiracy theories that I have ever heard in electoral politics. They lost that too.

Cue Stone now saying that they meant to lose as part of their super secret plot to give Democrats the political power that they won in order to watch them implode. But not just in 2020! He's already saying that they're planning to lose again in two years cuz they're so sneaky like a fox.

I feel like we're watching a toddler try to learn how to hold a fork.
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Biden outspent the Trump campaign by a yuge margin.
 
Indeed, I agree with the op of this thread. It is clear the seditionists have infection our government from the republican party. The issue the seditionists on the right will have is that the money this country makes, comes from liberal states.
 
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