nano Thermite found in all 911 dust samples

Bush was soo stupid but he and Rove could mastermind this. LOFL
I do believe he lied on the inteligence going into Iraq. Only freaking nutjobs like the moon hoax guy believe 911 was done by us.
 
Damocles said:
People can see just by watching the video, people can understand by the explanation, and people can think even if you continue to say "You're a dummy!" And BTW, the plane didn't "magically disappear". In fact it's debris was strewn throughout the buildings. People can even see and understand that clearly with information I provided, let alone the information provided from other sources throughout the thread.
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You're delusional .. and a bit of a coward brother.

I repeat, EVERYTHING you've said in this thread has been kicked in the ass by facts and evidence. EVERYTHING.

Actually, there isn't much point discussing the evidence anymore. You don't have any that rises to the level of the 8th grade. And if you got your pancake theory from your structural engineer friend, neither does he. Neither one of you have ever been introduced to the Laws of Physics, The Law of Falling Objects, The Law of Momentum, or The Second Law of Thermodynamics.

If that's where you got that bullshit from, tell your friend to log in so I can tell him that personally.

The claims you put forward are unbelieveable. "Large volumes of thermite in the area." .. small wonder that had to be pulled out of you .. because you had to have pulled that one of of your ass. What credible source did you get that bullshit from?

You've already lost the evidence debate long ago. The only question that remains is what would make an otherwise intelligent person talk like a moron?

Cowardice would do that. You KNOW the official story is bullshit, but you don't have the courage to face the truth .. so you invent all kinds of non-sensical bullshit to hide behind. You couldn't possibly be as dense as your comments would indicate.

You KNOW your theory about the government covering up for terrorists who planted explosives is STUPID .. which is why you offer no expanation of how that could possibly be accomplished after I posted a list of who some of the clients in the building were.

You should just leave it alone sir and do as you've suggested by staying out of it. You only end up making yourself look silly.
 
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blackascoal said:
You're delusional .. and a bit of a coward brother.

I repeat, EVERYTHING you've said in this thread has been kicked in the ass by facts and evidence. EVERYTHING.

Actually, there isn't much point discussing the evidence anymore. You don't have any that rises to the level of the 8th grade. And if you got your pancake theory from your structural engineer friend, neither does he. Neither one of you have ever been introduced to the Laws of Physics, The Law of Falling Objects, The Law of Momentum, or The Second Law of Thermodynamics.

If that's where you got that bullshit from, tell your friend to log in so I can tell him that personally.

The claims you put forward are unbelieveable. "Large volumes of thermite in the area." .. small wonder that had to be pulled out of you .. because you had to have pulled that one of of your ass. What credible source did you get that bullshit from?

You've already lost the evidence debate long ago. The only question that remains is what would make an otherwise intelligent person talk like a moron?

Cowardice would do that. You KNOW the official story is bullshit, but you don't have the courage to face the truth .. so you invent all kinds of non-sensical bullshit to hide behind. You couldn't possibly be as dense as your comments would indicate.

You KNOW your theory about the government covering up for terrorists who planted explosives is STUPID .. which is why you offer no expanation of how that could possibly be accomplished after I posted a list of who some of the clients in the building were.

You should just leave it alone sir and do as you've suggested by staying out of it. You only end up making yourself look silly.
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Except everything that I have said has not been even close to "kicked in the ass".

The logical fallacies in this post alone are many. The appeal to populism (using the snob approach) notwithstanding, your grasp of physics is questionable at best and simply wrong.

Another logical fallacy used is the Straw Man. Nobody here said "Gravity caused it", that is just another example of the fallacious arguments you use to "buttress" an already weak argument.

As for the amounts of thermite needed I get it from the fact that to have tons of molten material spilling from the tower you would need tons of thermite, 2 pounds to 1 pound of molten steel produced in fact. It simply is. You profess that all molten materials were steel and therefore must be produced by thermite, I simply use the direct equation used by welders. 2 pounds of thermite to 1 pound of molten steel. It isn't rocket science, but it does clearly show that you would need a lot of thermite to produce the "tons of molten metal" you say was found (and that I was able to explain).

There is no "cowardice" present in my posts, that's just pure silliness.

I've said myriad times that had my friend not been present to show me these things I would be you. I can see how you got to where you went, see the path that was taken, and know that I myself would likely take those same steps had I not had my friend showing me these things.


I've invented nothing, but I have produced much anger in you by simply pointing out what can be seen, and easily, by people who want to look. It wasn't for your benefit that I spoke at all in this thread, because I have already stated that your mind was long ago made up on this and there will be nothing that can change it.

Enough anger for your constant ad hom attacks building to a crescendo. This is some of the weakest argument I have ever seen from you, and you cannot even recognize that much. You are a capable person, but on this subject you are blinded in your anger.
 
Damocles said:
Except everything that I have said has not been even close to "kicked in the ass".

The logical fallacies in this post alone are many. The appeal to populism (using the snob approach) notwithstanding, your grasp of physics is questionable at best and simply wrong.

Another logical fallacy used is the Straw Man. Nobody here said "Gravity caused it", that is just another example of the fallacious arguments you use to "buttress" an already weak argument.

As for the amounts of thermite needed I get it from the fact that to have tons of molten material spilling from the tower you would need tons of thermite, 2 pounds to 1 pound of molten steel produced in fact. It simply is. You profess that all molten materials were steel and therefore must be produced by thermite, I simply use the direct equation used by welders. 2 pounds of thermite to 1 pound of molten steel. It isn't rocket science, but it does clearly show that you would need a lot of thermite to produce the "tons of molten metal" you say was found (and that I was able to explain).

There is no "cowardice" present in my posts, that's just pure silliness.

I've said myriad times that had my friend not been present to show me these things I would be you. I can see how you got to where you went, see the path that was taken, and know that I myself would likely take those same steps had I not had my friend showing me these things.


I've invented nothing, but I have produced much anger in you by simply pointing out what can be seen, and easily, by people who want to look. It wasn't for your benefit that I spoke at all in this thread, because I have already stated that your mind was long ago made up on this and there will be nothing that can change it.

Enough anger for your constant ad hom attacks building to a crescendo. This is some of the weakest argument I have ever seen from you, and you cannot even recognize that much. You are a capable person, but on this subject you are blinded in your anger.
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Dude, don't confuse anger with a mocking rejection.

I don't have anything to be angry about. You have demonstrated the truth of my position quite well sir.

Anger? .. shit, I should be inviting you to dinner.

I know it wasn't for my benefit that you spoke in this thread .. in spite of your own claim that it was. You spoke because you thought you had a point.

I see little benefit in our talking about each other, but I recognize that's all you have left. EVERYTHING you said was discredited .. EASILY.

I would however like to have your structural engineer friend log in.

Tell him I dare his ass to log in and touch this subject. :)
 
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blackascoal said:
Dude, don't confuse anger with a mocking rejection.

I don't have anything to be angry about. You have demonstrated the truth of my position quite well sir.

Anger? .. shit, I should be inviting you to dinner.

I know it wasn't for my benefit that you spoke in this thread .. in spite of your own claim that it was. You spoke because you thought you had a point.

I see little benefit in our talking about each other, but I recognize that's all you have left. EVERYTHING you said was discredited .. EASILY.

I would however like to have your structural engineer friend log in.

Tell him I dare his ass to log in and touch this subject. :)
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I claimed it was not for your benefit. That is pointless. All you have is logical fallacy and inept straw men.
 
blackascoal said:
Dude, don't confuse anger with a mocking rejection.

I don't have anything to be angry about. You have demonstrated the truth of my position quite well sir.

Anger? .. shit, I should be inviting you to dinner.

I know it wasn't for my benefit that you spoke in this thread .. in spite of your own claim that it was. You spoke because you thought you had a point.

I see little benefit in our talking about each other, but I recognize that's all you have left. EVERYTHING you said was discredited .. EASILY.

I would however like to have your structural engineer friend log in.

Tell him I dare his ass to log in and touch this subject. :)
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This just goes to show how closed your mind is with regards to this topic. You are indeed blinded by anything that contradicts your fantasy. The reality is that it is your beliefs that have been debunked time and again.

your defense is a silly attempt to switch from one building to another trying to play gotcha games. You lack the ability to comprehend that the buildings are not the same structurally. There are indeed some questions that still need to be answered. But look back on this thread brother and you will see that the bulk of your conspiracy is nothing more than fantasy.
 
blackascoal said:
All very nice prose .. perhaps you should be a writer .. 'cause you ain't much as a debater. You didn't come back with anything to refute what you claim as I did.

And by the way, yeah, my "snarky comments" feel very good. Thanks.

You seem to have no problem with snarky comments when you use them, why should I. I've attempted civil debate on this issue in every way I could save getting on my knees and begging for it. But unfounded opinion, insults, and snarky comments was all the fairy-tale believers had to offer. You aren't really looking for civil debate on this issue because just as this thread demonstrates, truth is not on your side. Nor is intelligence, science, logic, or even common sense.
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Care to show me when and where my first "snarky" comment was made to you??


As to my showing something that refutes your offering; I thouight I made that very clear, when I referred to someone posting more opinions then the other person.
It looks like I was correct; because you feel that as long as you can post more opinions then someone else, then you get to declare yourself the winner.

Haven't you noticed that truth is subjective, especially when someone has a pre-determined agenda.

Feel free to respond, I give you permission.
Better yet, I demand that you reply.
 
blackascoal said:
Me, me, I want to guess.

I guess they'll be applying heat that exceeds any heat that can be generated by fire alone, especially jet fuel which is basically kerosene.

.. a concept most 8th graders understand.
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Not that he mentioned.
They just applied what ever heat was needed, to be able to shape it.

You sure do seem to read a lot of things, into whatever is offered.
 
In the end, its really sad that normally rational people sometimes get caught up in nonsense such as this....

WTC done by US government,
Phantom plane hit Pentagon,
Airliner shot down by US military in PA....
Bush plans takeover of US Government
Cheney makes billions, trillions, kazillions of dollars from Oil ....
Moon landing was faked...
UFO crashed in Roswell-Government hides alien bodies..
JFK Assassination - government cover up-
LBJ behind plot
Cuba behind plot
Russia behind plot
Mafia behind plot
Fall of Saddam statue faked...
WTC7 falls by controlled explosions
Global Warming Dooms Earth
Holocaust was faked or Holocaust Never Occurred...
The Bermuda Triangle and Black Helicopters....
Oil Companies hide 200 mpg Carburetor from public...

Pick one and you will find someone, somewhere that has "proof" ....
Usually the proof is just another believers opinion....

In every one these, you can find believers...no matter what evidence there is to the contrary...or how outlandish the claims.....

.the latest being the global warming craze...still going strong, but time will show its claims about as true as the Bermuda Triangle "mystery"and the 200 mpg carburetor....
 
Topspin said:
Bush was soo stupid but he and Rove could mastermind this. LOFL
I do believe he lied on the inteligence going into Iraq. Only freaking nutjobs like the moon hoax guy believe 911 was done by us.
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this from an idiot who can keep their they're there seperate
 
:lmao:

What a bunch of lemmings.

Thank you to everybody who has chimed in with their opinion of me .. but didn't have a motherfucking thing to offer about the point of this thread that they didn't pull out of their ass.

Wow, let's all avoid the question of why thermite was found in ALL samples in ALL three buildings .. and we don't have a fucking clue why the site remained hot for weeks after the event, something fire could not do but thermite certainly could .. instead, let's talk about BAC and Desh .. even though we don't have a fucking clue.

Let's talk about UFO's and global warming and the Bermuda Triangle and conspiracy theorists .. amd even though not a single one of us can answer any questions, let's all say we "pwned" BAC and Desh anyway so we stay consistent with the rest of our 8th grade comments. After all, we're just a bunch of dummies so what do we know about the laws of physics.

We "pwned" BAC and Desh.

What an intelligent group, most of whom just knew Saddam had WMD.

It is no mystery at all why we ended up in Iraq or why we've dumped trillions of dollars on corporate thieves. Americans are an invented people who are easily led by the nose.

:)

... amazing
 
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From a historical perspective ..

.. If anyone ever wondered how Hitler could pull off the Reistag Fire or how the German people could be stupid enough to fall for it ..

.. welcome to America.
 
Damocles said:
And again, it ends with the endless repeat and rehash, even with this. Your schtick on this subject is always the same. You ask a question. I (or in this thread SF and others as I have largely kept my promise to stay out of the conversation) research and find links that refute what you lead into with your question. You then say that nobody answered your question and post it again, then again (often with different sources as well as the same) it is refuted and answered. You then ask again....

It goes round and round and is pointless.

I fully expect you to repeat the worthless "running away" stuff, it's as pointless as the whole of this thread has been, a microcosm if you will.

Then when somebody comes in and posts stuff that refutes what you claim you know to be true, you will again post the same thing and accuse them of not answering questions.
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BlackAsCoal is ScottBoxster?
 
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