The Colorado Shooter Just Sealed the Fate of New AR Sales

[Matt Dillon]

And the bad news is banning AR's will not really change that. It is because we are dealing with the wrong end of the Problem.

This is true.

 

[CASPER]

Well, since nobody, or at least not me, is suggesting or advocating such a thing, I can't really answer that.

I just think it should be a lot more difficult and more time consuming to obtain one legally, the penalties for possessing or transferring ownership illegally should be extremely tough and the gun industry should be forced to innovate and build into their product safety features that make it impossible to use by anyone but the registered owner.

Do not have a real issue with any of that except the last suggestion. Mainly because because on one side will not impact the firearms that exist and there is no way to really fix it and on the other side what if my wife or a friend needed to use my firearm and could not at the wrong time. So.....

 

[Matt Dillon]

Almost predictable, anytime a Democrat gets elected President, “their coming for your guns.”

The gun manufacturers, via the NRA, really do a good job propagandizing the myth, and of course, the gun lovers swallow it whole

Nobody is coming for your toys, they didn’t do it under Clinton, nor Obama, and they aren’t doing it now. Sensible gun regulation doesn’t mean confiscation of all guns, put down the Kool Aid

They DID do it under Clinton, you retard! They passed the "Assault Weapons Ban" which was a fucked-up bunch of shit.

Oh! That's the reason I quit the NRA, because they allowed that BS to happen.

Looks to me like anytime a Democrat gets elected, there's a convenient mass shooting timed perfectly for a government gun grab of a demonized weapon.

A line needs to be drawn this time or it could go like 1938 Germany.

No more gun regulations, you fucktards!

Enough with that bullshit!

If almost everyone had guns, the guy could have been stopped sooner.

 

[CASPER]

only since August of 2017.....

Why that date?

 

[CASPER]

I bet he used his Government Stimulus check to buy the gun!

I will bet you no one will care, he had two guns by the way, just to be clear.

 

[CASPER]

Didn’t say there wouldn’t be a grandfather clause, did I?

There are limits to everything. That includes the 2nd Amendment.

And I am ok with that, I thought of it long ago and did what I thought was wise for my situation.

I am still against infringing on the Rights of those that have not done so or could not at the time, but It is what it is.

 

[CASPER]

Why does it have to be just about you?

I am an average citizen, a well trained, law abiding, and sane citizen, so why am I a threat, I would assume I would have to be thought of as a danger to take away my Rights?

 

[Nomad]

Do not have a real issue with any of that except the last suggestion. Mainly because because on one side will not impact the firearms that exist and there is no way to really fix it and on the other side what if my wife or a friend needed to use my firearm and could not at the wrong time. So.....

I would think that there could/would be a way to make the gun operable by more than one person as long as they were family members.

Just not by anybody who might steal it to use in a crime.

Some kind of fingerprint reader or facial recognition scanner.

Maybe limit it to four different users.

 

[Lionfish]

Realistically, there is no need to have a military-style assault rifle with high capacity magazines, except to compensate for small penises.

You do not need a 30 round magazine to shoot deer.

You certainly do not need a high capacity mag for recreational target shooting.

The best weapon to defend your home is a shotgun, which is designed for short range fire power and for putting an intruder on their ass without even having to aim and track the target.

If you need to take out zombies, I suggest Molotov cocktails.

High capacity rounds are designed for one reason only - to kill and maim many humans very rapidly. Either on the battlefield, or at the neighborhood Wal-Mart

You have a lot to learn about guns for home defense.

 

[Legion]

I was thinking

 

[CASPER]

I would think that there could/would be a way to make the gun operable by more than one person as long as they were family members.

Just not by anybody who might steal it to use in a crime.

Some kind of fingerprint reader or facial recognition scanner.

Maybe limit it to four different users.

The technology us not there yet and it usually has to be built in. It might so something years down the road but the impact right now would be miniscule.

 

[Legion]

You have a lot to learn about guns for home defense.

The women he stalked certainly had to learn, thanks to his unwanted attentions. Do you know how many restraining orders have his name on them?

 

[Nomad]

The technology us not there yet and it usually has to be built in. It might so something years down the road but the impact right now would be miniscule.

Fingerprint readers and facial recognition scanners are part of just about every notebook or tablet computer sold today.

My Microsoft Surface tablet scans my face before letting me in, every time I turn it on.

And it's all done by a tiny microchip.

They could put them in guns right now but the gun industry doesn't want anything to do with any new fangled technology that would add to their production cost or affect the end price of their "product", which might in turn, negatively affect sales, in spite of how many lives could be saved.

 

[Minister of Truth]

When a bunch of thick-headed assholes hide behind it and put some constitutional right that was established going on 300 years ago above public safety, all for their own selfish ignorant purposes, while steadfastly refusing to accept reality for what it is or adjust that constitutional right to fit today's world, then there is something wrong.

Stop hiding behind the Constitution!!

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Why that date?

look at the join date in the upper right corner of every one of your posts.....

 

[Lionfish]

Let's have the secret service test any "smart" guns for a few years before they are forced on police and the general population.

 

[volsrock]

Right or wrong, depending on your stand on the issue of AR's, the shooter in Colorado just put the nail into the sale of AR's in the near future. He did this far too soon after the Florida shootings and killed too many People, including a Police Officer, for the Republicans to defend not banning them. Last night I was thinking that was what the result of this shooting would be if he used a AR style rifle and he did.

Not more than 10 minutes ago President Biden went on air to talk about the shooting and there it was, a call to pass the new Background Check Law already passed in the House and to ban AR's and high capacity mags. Guess what, it will end up getting passed, if not this week it will be soon, as in the next month or two at the very most.

So, If you want one I would suggest you get it now, that is if you can even find one at any price, they were already being over priced because of the shortage and this will drive the prices even higher, I assure you the gun stores will be very busy today and until they run out of everything. Same goes for Mags and Parts and Ammo which is already hard to get and expensive when you find it.

For those that already own them, you are probably safe, they will never be able to ban ownership if you already legally bought it but they can ban the new sales of them.

For those of that wanted them banned, this is your moment, enjoy it for while it lasts, because if the Conservatives ever get enough power in Washington the first thing will do is kill the ban, count on it.

Is What It Is Folks.

So if this Muslim had drove a Box Truck though parking lot and into store killing 15 u would call for a Box Truck ban?

 

[RB 60]

AR15s and AK47s are ugly as shit.
The first is quite accurate but frequently jams and makes pretty small holes when it doesn't.
The second never jams and makes bigger holes if you're close enough to hit anything with its scattershot "accuracy."

No self respecting person would accept one as a respectable fashion accessory among people who matter.

Weatherby MkVs are drop dead gorgeous, lethal as a motherfucker, and under no threat of being banned anywhere in America.
That's why I've got one of those instead.

Weatherby's are one of the most overrated firearms on the market. Yep, they have nice woodwork, but woodwork doesn't produce accuracy. I'll take a 700 BDL over a Weatherby any day of the week.

 

[RB 60]

You have a lot to learn about guns for home defense.

Ask him about "military ballistics..."

 

[Matt Dillon]

Fingerprint readers and facial recognition scanners are part of just about every notebook or tablet computer sold today.

My Microsoft Surface tablet scans my face before letting me in, every time I turn it on.

And it's all done by a tiny microchip.

They could put them in guns right now but the gun industry doesn't want anything to do with any new fangled technology that would add to their production cost or affect the end price of their "product", which might in turn, negatively affect sales, in spite of how many lives could be saved.

You're fucking Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, commie fuckwad.