Hello Turgid Member,
I will continue to track the data.
My observation is that the surge occurs first in New Cases data, which is reflected in the number of Active Cases, and finally in New Deaths.
Active Cases rises and falls depending on New Cases and the number of Resolved Cases.
Cases are resolved when a stricken individual either recovers or dies.
Hello Darth,
Why the restrictions of requiring all voting to be accomplished in one day?
It has clearly been shown that if voting is opened up to a period of several weeks, that more votes are cast. Our nation functions better with a higher level of voting. That results in more people taking part in the function of our national business, and results in more confidence in government. I hope you realize that our nation depends on the people having confidence in government. If there was zero confidence in government, then government cannot function, and would likely break down, or be overthrown to be replaced by chaos.
If you think things are bad now, that would cause things to be worse. There can be no question of that.
That would be like the nation saying the Constitution is no longer working for us and we are abandoning it.
So the logical question to follow would be:
"If our Constitution is no good, what could possibly work any better?"
I have no answer to that question.
And not one vote counted AFTER election day at 8:00 PM.
The heavy lifting was done under Trump and the lifting wasn’t done by Fauci and the medical bureaucracy but by the development of vaccines that were facilitated by Operation Warp Speed.
This left Biden with an easy ‘win’: all that needed done was to distribute the vaccines *that existed before he came into office* and allow the running dogs in the media to craft a narrative that Biden came into an utter mess.
The real ‘mess’ that needs cleaned up is the economic mess left by Fauci and the medical bureaucracy. That work is being done by governors in a handful of states.
I don’t care what random republicans think, this republican is open to flooding the zone with voting sites to where you can’t walk in any direction without tripping over one, provided: all votes are cast on Election Day: zero votes leave chain of custody and the ones that do are eliminated and all voters present an ID before voting.
I have absolutely nothing to fear about that. Do you?
You have that reversed.
Warp Speed was easy - that took a couple of signatures. Trump dropped the ball before he made it to the finish line on distribution.
We were averaging 1 million vaccines a week when Trump left office. He made excuses & pointed fingers, and said that the rest should be up to the states. Biden came in and promised 100 vaccines in 100 days, and doubled it.
That's the heavy lifting. And that's what made the difference. At Trump's pace, we never would have hit herd immunity.
I have heard this theory but have not seen it in the statistics. There is too much propaganda going on with the numbers, we keep hearing how bad florida is, but michigan is much worse. why for example do you think that is?
What happened with Sturgis? Wasn’t it supposed to be a big Super Spreader?
We’ve held elections on Election Day for decades and it was never an issue. That’s why it’s called Election Day lol.
Make it a national holiday. Turn virtually every school into a voting site—no need to make Election Day, Election Weeks or Election Season. There’s no need for that and it just presents opportunities for fraud so let’s clean it up.
So, all votes cast on Election Day; voter ID; and absolutely no ballots leave chain of custody.
You in?
You have that reversed.
Warp Speed was easy - that took a couple of signatures. Trump dropped the ball before he made it to the finish line on distribution.
We were averaging 1 million vaccines a week when Trump left office. He made excuses & pointed fingers, and said that the rest should be up to the states. Biden came in and promised 100 vaccines in 100 days, and doubled it.
That's the heavy lifting. And that's what made the difference. At Trump's pace, we never would have hit herd immunity.
Hello Turgid Member,
That's a good observation. There is much speculation about linking data to Democratic or Republican handling of the pandemic, but it appears that is not the only factor. Certainly, another factor must be the public response to government guidelines. If there is a high response rate of compliance with government rules, and those rules are designed to create an effective coordinated human response to the spread of the disease, then the spread is reduced.
Logically, if the public does not comply with the government plan, then the effectiveness is reduced.
And it should also be recognized that government policy and public response are not the only factors in determining the spread of the disease.
Here is another possible factor:
If individuals travel from colder regions to a warmer region for a vacation, and unknowingly contract the disease, and become transmitters, and then they return to a region which otherwise has an effective plan for limiting transmission, then transmission can occur regardless of government policy.
If individuals have jobs or school which requires them to interface closely with others, especially in greater numbers and in closer indoor proximity without adequate ventilation over an extended duration, then the chances of transmission are increased.
More dying. More death. More loss. More heartbreak.
More parents and grandparents lost.
More Americans with preexisting conditions being lost.
In case you have never checked it out, I have been keeping track of the Coronavirus Pandemic progress in the USA in a daily thread called
Corona Virus Peak Watch Thread
I had no idea when I began that thread almost a year ago how long it would take until we reached the peak.
I also had no idea that when we reached that peak, there might be more than one peak.
Well, we reached a peak at the end of January 2021.
Hooray!
But that wasn't the end of the virus.
It merely meant that we finally stopped adding more new cases than were resolved.
The number of Active Cases peaked and began to fall for the first time. And that felt good.
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But our progress just halted.
Yesterday, for the first time since the end of January, we began to see the numbers start to rise again.
Yesterday showed more Active Cases than the previous day.
Gov DeSantis of Florida deserves much of the credit for killing our progress.
He foolishly dropped all restrictions in Florida.
And now Florida is recording more New Cases per day than California, even though California has nearly twice as many people.
Spring Break has not been just college kids. Many adults have gone there to get away from the stress of fighting the virus. That has created an epicenter.
Spring Break has become Florida Spring Super-Spreader.
We have not learned our lesson. More pain, more dying, more heartache, more loss are all on the way.
We have got to do better. We have got to be more responsible. We must stay the course until the job is done.
You say Warp was ‘easy’ even as Trump was being mocked for promising a vaccine by Christmas.
Biden lied when he said there was no program in place when he was installed. The fact is there was a program at the time, and it was up and running at the time. What’s easy, is taking an already existent vaccine distribution and tweaking it and/or getting the federal government out of the way so it can be refined over time.
I predicted this very thing: Biden would inherit Covid on the downswing; or if not, it would be reported it differently. Either way, ‘Biden would handle Covid better’. He couldn’t lose.
I may have misunderstood you here, but I don't think Michigan's increase is due to people traveling to and from florida. The politics and the news is all about how bad florida is, one poster was telling me specically how bad fl was and how good michigan was. That poster didn't realize michigan has an observable up trend, FL does not, and MI has 9 million less poeple than FL, yet is very close in deaths and infections.
but spring break is sexy I guess.
Hello Darth,
Trump promises a lot of things, tries to cover all bases, so that when any of them come true he can claim credit.
Trump also promised a vaccine long before election day, but failed to achieve that.
Then, having failed at that, he moved the goalposts and claimed it would be in place by election day.
That didn't happen either, so the goalposts were moved once again to claim it would happen by Christmas.
If finally did, so then he jumped up and claimed credit.
That's what Trump does. He takes credit whenever and wherever he can, regardless of whether or not it is due.
But he never takes responsibility for anything negative.
He is fooling himself and anyone else he can drag into his fantasy.
I would logically advise anyone with a clairvoyant mind to avoid falling into Trump's dangerous web of lies and self-deceit.
Shallow thinkers should play right along. It is all they need for themselves and their own selfishness.
btw, COVID was still on the upswing when Biden was inaugurated.
yes in florida
You say Warp was ‘easy’ even as Trump was being mocked for promising a vaccine by Christmas.
Biden lied when he said there was no program in place when he was installed. The fact is there was a program at the time, and it was up and running at the time. What’s easy, is taking an already existent vaccine distribution and tweaking it and/or getting the federal government out of the way so it can be refined over time.
I predicted this very thing: Biden would inherit Covid on the downswing; or if not, it would be reported it differently. Either way, ‘Biden would handle Covid better’. He couldn’t lose.
There is literally no doubt at all that Biden has handled COVID better. Trump was abysmal during COVID. He never told the truth, and downplayed every aspect of it the entire time he was in office (not to mention creating debate about simple things like masks and distancing, which could have saved thousands).
Biden took an anemic pace of vaccination when he started and turned it around. The results speak for themselves.
No, in Florida: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/
We can't have an honest debate until you accept the facts.