He's guilty

[Althea]

LOL, good luck with that. Not one juror is going to say they were swayed one bit by Waters. Those jurors were absolutely decisive.

They would have to admit to ignoring a direct order from the judge.

 

[Althea]

Yep they were all intimidated. Remember the JUUDGE even said Maxine Waters gave the defense a reason to appeal.

Nope. He did not.

 

[Althea]

intimidated by what?

His imagination

 

[]2epo]v[an]

To clarify...you don't think Chauvin caused Floyd's death?

Floyd was the only one that caused floyds death.

 

[Althea]

The 10 hour decision. They obviously did not systematically review all the evidence. This reminds me of the OJ trial. The jury was out a short time because they were afraid of the impact a guilty verdict might have on them personally.

The only evidence they needed to review, was the video.

It only took 10 hours to decide on which charges they would find him guilty of.

Guilt was a given

 

[Althea]

this case is nothing like the OJ case...............video evidence being the primary difference............now, unless you wish to classify most of the population as retarded trolls, you lose

This is the opposite of the OJ trial. There was overwhelming circumstantial evidence that he was guilty, but the black jury exercised it's right to let him go free as a way to compensate for years of mistreatment of black people by the legal system.

 

[Althea]

Jury did not buy all the bullshit from defense.

Because there was no defense.

And Nelson put them to sleep during his closing. They were probably sleeping when he lied through his teeth about prosecution's burden of proof.

 

[Althea]

More likely restricted blood [no O2] supply to the brain. The pressure downward on his chest in the prone position hindered his tidal volume. And that also reduces oxygen. His trachea wasn't likely compromised.

Tobin proved you wrong.

 

[Althea]

You racists are losing ground.

She actually disproves the Waters defense.

She's parroting what was spewed on Fox, which was much more available than one Waters quote.

 

[]2epo]v[an]

Dear fucking idiot


He would have to prove they all heard her remark and that it altered their decision


And it didn’t

And they won’t say that



Most likely never knew she said it


They had been repeatedly reminded not to watch news


Face it racist

Your losing your little race war


Fuck you very much

How do you think this verdict is losing a race war. Derik will be out in record time with a kickback check straight from maxine's pocket. Meanwhile all the black people in that city will enjoy nothing less than desolation of their half burnt city since the treasury will now be mercilessly plundered. They'll be lucky to still have running water by the end of the year as all their cash is laundered out through judgements and campaign funds right into dixiecrat relection funds and their scumb for brain high rent black slave congressman like waters.

Try thinking. It works better than following echoes.

 

[Althea]

How many police are tried for murder?

He never said 'police trials'. He said 'murder trials'.

 

[Althea]

Why? They can report a fact just as easily as anyone else can.

Offering Fox to one who challenges obvious facts is a way to prove that even the racists prove your point.

 

[Althea]

The evidence against OJ was overwhelming the evidence against Chauvin was overwhelming. The main difference is blacks wanted OJ freed and Chauvin convicted.

Probably the only thing you and I will ever agree on.

 

[]2epo]v[an]

LOL. Still think that Pence is going to overturn Biden's win?

It's not in racist's best interest to overturn a dixiecrat's seating. Dumbass.

 

[]2epo]v[an]

You should consider funding pense if he's really still trying to do that.

 

[Althea]

Juries typically first review the evidence completely THEN take a vote. You can't do that in ten hours. Personally I think they were intimidated and wanted to vote and get out of the situation.

Incorrect. They reviewed the overwhelming evidence for two weeks. The first thing a jury does after selecting a foreman, is to take a vote to see who stands where.

If it's unanimous, the only thing left to do is to decide on each charge.

 

[Althea]

IMHO the thing that most likely convicted him was the video with the one cop telling him they should let him up and him insisting he was "staying right where he is" then later when that same cop said that he could find no pulse and his answer "uh huh"... 3 more minutes of kneeling... and the paramedics still had to nudge him so they could access him to provide what help they could, unfortunately he was already dead.

Agree. That showed the depravity. Chauvin should have testified.

 

[Concart]

Offering Fox to one who challenges obvious facts is a way to prove that even the racists prove your point.

Agreed. The point I was trying to make, which got lost in the minutiae, is that this was not an unusually fast deliberation, given that the jury most likely agreed immediately that Chauvin was guilty of at least some of the charges. After that, it was just a question of which ones. You look at the elements necessary to prove the charge and decide if the prosecution met the burden. Given the unambiguous nature of the evidence, those questions weren't difficult for the jury. This article gave some representative samples to prove the point. This idea that the jurors were terrified to not convict Chauvin is laughable and stupid.

 

[LV426]

I'm not shocked you are way off. Its typical for you. I predicted 3rd degree murder but I didn't watch the trial . Maxine Waters and her fat mouth has set up an appeal for Chauvin. The politicians should have shut up and stop the virtue signaling. Its OK to voice an opinion AFTER the verdict but not before it.

The judge instructed the jury to not watch the news prior to Waters' remark, and the jury affirmed their decision yesterday in court after the judge asked them.

Maybe you should have pulled your head out of your ass and watched the trial.

 

[LV426]

They probably weren't allowed to be witnesses because they have their own trials coming up.
They were de facto witnesses though. The prosecution used the audio from their comments to illustrate just how depraved Chauvin is.
One asked twice about rolling him on his side. That alone would have saved his life. One of them checked for a pulse, and told Chauvin that there is none.
Chauvin wasn't interested. They will both argue that they were following the senior officer's lead.

"Following orders" wasn't a legitimate defense at Nuremburg, and it won't be here either.

They were originally supposed to all be tried together but thanks to COVID, the court broke it up so that Chauvin would get his own trial and the other three would be tried together.