Limbaugh On The Sanford Affair: It's Obama's Fault!

[blackascoal]

I'll note that you ignore the poll in question for favorability ratings.

These are the results of the leadership poll. Please note how "high" Palin rates there and how high "no one" rates comparatively to all the people each of you have said was the "leader". There is a reason I say what I do, and it isn't based on something that isn't very real.

Just because people like Palin, it certainly doesn't make her the "leader".

Please also note how Romney's favorability also does not make him "the voice". Neither Romney or Palin are seen by republicans as "the voice" of the party.

I didn't ignore them .. but you actually make for a worse case for the Republican Party than I do. I at least tried to find who's in charge. You're a republican and you have no clue who's in charge. I'd say that's even worse than having someone at the head you don't like.

I agree that "favorability" doesn't make them the voice of the party .. but Steele was elected to be the voice of the party. You're not going to deny that I'm sure. But if only 1% see him as the leader of the party .. you guys have serious issues .. perhaps even more serious than I thought.

 

[blackascoal]

When did you become so intellectually dishonest?

Ice Dancer's implication clearly was that Obama came out of nowhere, and no one would have anticipated him as a potential candidate 3 years prior to '08.

That is factually incorrect. Many - especially Dems - were talking about Obama as a candidate after his speech in '04, and you know it. It was precisely because of that reaction that Obama set up an exploratory committee, and he declared his candidacy in no small part because of polling showing popular support.

When I said I didn't think he had much of a shot in the campaign, he was already a CANDIDATE. He wasn't even a "potential candidate" - he was a CANDIDATE.

Please stop acting 12.

Additionally, when Obama ran there were clearly already leaders of the Democratic Party .. like the Clintons who he had to best for the nomination.

 

[Damocles]

I didn't ignore them .. but you actually make for a worse case for the Republican Party than I do. I at least tried to find who's in charge. You're a republican and you have no clue who's in charge. I'd say that's even worse than having someone at the head you don't like.

I agree that "favorability" doesn't make them the voice of the party .. but Steele was elected to be the voice of the party. You're not going to deny that I'm sure. But if only 1% see him as the leader of the party .. you guys have serious issues .. perhaps even more serious than I thought.

I know that when it is time there will be somebody who is "the voice", you are the only one who seems to think that something that isn't "must be".

 

[blackascoal]

I know that when it is time there will be somebody who is "the voice", you are the only one who seems to think that something that isn't "must be".

I think I agree with you and I'm finding more joy-joy in the idea that republicans don't have a leader, don't have a voice .. because all of the obvious ones stink to high heaven and have no chance at national appeal.

thanks for that

.. learn something new everyday.

 

[zappasguitar]

LOL

Why not? Liberals blamed Bush for everything under the sun. Seems only fair, time to blame Obama for the economy, recession, unemployment, North Korea, Iran, and everything else wrong.

So I don't see conservatives on this board each and every day telling anyone who will listen how much better they are than any old Democrat??

One would think that high and mighty Republicans could stay above such things...if they were telling the truth about being better people, that is.

 

[Damocles]

I think I agree with you and I'm finding more joy-joy in the idea that republicans don't have a leader, don't have a voice .. because all of the obvious ones stink to high heaven and have no chance at national appeal.

thanks for that

.. learn something new everyday.

I'm good with that. I'm finding more joy-joy in what is happening down at the level that I work.

Just a couple years ago every speech was about protecting "sanctity" of things, nowadays they are about fiscal responsibility, enforcing the limits placed on the Feds by the constitution, personal responsibility... All the things that I find good about the party. The same people who wouldn't listen without the "sanctity" portions now aren't just listening, but are getting excited about the winning ideas...

I'm liking it.

 

[uscitizen]

Personal responsibility? Fiscal responsibility? Are you kidding me?

 

[Damocles]

Personal responsibility? Fiscal responsibility? Are you kidding me?

No, I am not. When 67% of the nation considers themselves conservative, it is best to aim your message to them rather than solely to the "sanctity" crowd.

 

[uscitizen]

No, I am not. When 67% of the nation considers themselves conservative, it is best to aim your message to them rather than solely to the "sanctity" crowd.

What people consider themselves and what they do are not the same thing.
67% of the people are fiscally irresponsible in their own personal finances.
And everything seems to be someone elses fault.

Dixie considers himself normal. Consider that.

 

[Damocles]

What people consider themselves and what they do are not the same thing.
67% of the people are fiscally irresponsible in their own personal finances.
And everything seems to be someone elses fault.

Dixie considers himself normal. Consider that.

Who they will vote for and how they act seems to have effected them greatly. It would be wise to return to those who voted you in rather than continue to walk away from them.

I'm glad of the direction it is going, it is far better than what has happened in the recent past.

Be judgmental of individuals if you must, but this is a good direction to travel. I hope that being judgmental of those people is all you have in the future.

 

[uscitizen]

Talk and no walk is hypocritical and will gain us little in the long run. But it is most of what we have had for a few decades now.

I am hoping that this recession will teach a few some core values.
But it will have to last quite a while longer for that to happen.

 

[Damocles]

Talk and no walk is hypocritical and will gain us little in the long run. But it is most of what we have had for a few decades now.

I am hoping that this recession will teach a few some core values.
But it will have to last quite a while longer for that to happen.

Talk and no walk is what lost us the WH. So, yup. That is where the drive lies, to do what is promised.

 

[uscitizen]

Talk and no walk is what lost us the WH. So, yup. That is where the drive lies, to do what is promised.

For real change the change in walking the talk has to work from the bottom up, not the top down. Morality, ethics, fiscal responsibility, personal responsibility must be a bottom up growth event for meaningful long term change to happen.

For instance Education needs to be driven by involved parents, not the govt in your state capitol or Washington.

Drug abuse is the same thing, it needs to be driven by the parents in their children.

Abortion would not be nearly such an issue if parents did real parenting.

Obesity,again the parents not a new pill to make children skinny or a govt grant.

And on and on.

The problems we have have been building for generations and cannot be quick fixed. Especially in a painless manner.
Anyone who believes they can or believes a politician who promises to fix them are fooling themselves or do not understand.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Come on Dix, no one blamed the hurricane on bush, just the clusterfuck response by the administration and good ole Brownie.

There were lefties who blamed Bush for inadequate federal response, even after Bush set a precedent by being the first president in US history to proclaim a 'national disaster' before it actually became one. This actually extended the bounds of the executive branch, but Bush did it anyway, because he knew it was going to be bad news. It is true the guy in charge of FEMA was unqualified, but the aftermath can hardly be blamed solely on him, or the Bush administration. But don't let that stop the Democrat Koolaid Machine!

Then... there were more extreme lefties, who claimed Bush didn't respond because he wanted the black people to die in the streets. Even more loony tune lefties suggested Bush had the levies BLOWN UP in order to flood the poor parts of town and kill the black people!

And.... there were even a few more, EXTREME kook lefties, who actually tried to claim that Bush and Cheney controlled the weather, and created the hurricane themselves! Oh, you people were ALL OVER THE BOARD with the insanity.... all of it pointing to George W. Bush! Disregarding the fact that nearly EVERY state and local official in Louisiana, sat on their hands and did nothing but WHINE ABOUT BUSH!

 

[christiefan915]

Ok... and you all just voted in a guy for President whose only previous executive anything, was being a community orginizer and running the corrupted Acron...

Do you want me to continue??

Obama never ran ACORN.

Discredited Republican voter-suppression guru Ken Blackwell is attacking Barack Obama with naked lies about his supposed connection to ACORN.

• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN community organizer.
• Fact: ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee.
• Fact: ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992.

In his capacity as an attorney, Barack represented ACORN in a successful lawsuit alongside the U.S. Department of Justice against the state of Illinois to force state compliance with a federal voting access law. For his work helping enforce the law, called “Motor Voter,” Barack received the IVI-IPO Legal Eagle Award in 1995.

http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/20/acornrumor

 

[meme]

Obama never ran ACORN.

Discredited Republican voter-suppression guru Ken Blackwell is attacking Barack Obama with naked lies about his supposed connection to ACORN.

• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN community organizer.
• Fact: ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee.
• Fact: ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992.

In his capacity as an attorney, Barack represented ACORN in a successful lawsuit alongside the U.S. Department of Justice against the state of Illinois to force state compliance with a federal voting access law. For his work helping enforce the law, called “Motor Voter,” Barack received the IVI-IPO Legal Eagle Award in 1995.

http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/20/acornrumor

Ok well, that CHANGES everything...He's been involved with this group who has been charged with voter fraud, embezzling, voter intimidation, since 1995...he's involved with homegrown terrorist, he attended a radical black liberation Church for 20 yrs..Boy, do I feel better now...

 

[christiefan915]

No, I am not. When 67% of the nation considers themselves conservative, it is best to aim your message to them rather than solely to the "sanctity" crowd.

That's not what Gallup says.

Gallup, perhaps the most respected and unbiased polling organization in the country, found that self-identified conservatives outnumber liberals by a 2-1 margin. Forty percent of Americans describe themselves as conservative, compared with 21 percent who say they are liberal. Another 35 percent label themselves as moderate.

The results, based on a random survey of 1,000 adults nationwide, are remarkably consistent with Gallup's findings over the past 15 years. The number of conservatives dropped briefly in 2008 to 37 percent, but rebounded this year.


http://www.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/opinion/commentary/article/ED-BOB621_20090619-202603/274834/

 

[christiefan915]

Ok well, that CHANGES everything...He's been involved with this group who has been charged with voter fraud, embezzling, voter intimidation, since 1995...he's involved with homegrown terrorist, he attended a radical black liberation Church for 20 yrs..Boy, do I feel better now...

He represented them in a lawsuit. Surely you're not suggesting that some people or groups aren't entitled to legal representation?

A McCain TV ad says Obama "lied" about his association with Bill Ayers, a former member of the radical, bomb-setting, anti-Vietnam War Weather Underground group. In a Web ad, McCain says the two are "friends" who have "worked together for years." GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin has said repeatedly on the stump that Ayers and Obama "pal around" together. And in a large-scale robo-call effort, McCain's campaign implied that Obama "worked closely" with Ayers in the latter's earlier, Weather Underground days.

But nothing Obama said about Ayers has been shown to be untrue. All available evidence indicates the two know each other but are not close. They met in 1995, when Obama was asked to head the board of a school reform group, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, that Ayers had helped start. The organization, formed to dispense grants in an effort to improve the city's schools, was hardly radical; its board included a number of well-regarded Chicago establishment types. Also, Obama and Ayers overlapped for two years on the board of another foundation, and Ayers hosted a coffee in his home when Obama was running for the Illinois state Legislature.


http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_whoppers_of_2008_--_the_sequel.html

The Rev. James Cone is the founder of black liberation theology and says it's "mainly a theology that sees God as concerned with the poor and the weak."
What's radical about being concerned with the poor and weak?

Black liberation theology originated on July 31, 1966, when 51 black pastors bought a full page ad in the New York Times and demanded a more aggressive approach to eradicating racism. They echoed the demands of the black power movement, but the new crusade found its source of inspiration in the Bible.

"God's presence in the world is best depicted through God's involvement in the struggle for justice," says Anthony Pinn, who teaches philosophy and religion at Rice University in Houston. "God is so intimately connected to the community that suffers, that God becomes a part of that community."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89236116

 

[Onceler]

There were lefties who blamed Bush for inadequate federal response, even after Bush set a precedent by being the first president in US history to proclaim a 'national disaster' before it actually became one. This actually extended the bounds of the executive branch, but Bush did it anyway, because he knew it was going to be bad news. It is true the guy in charge of FEMA was unqualified, but the aftermath can hardly be blamed solely on him, or the Bush administration. But don't let that stop the Democrat Koolaid Machine!

Then... there were more extreme lefties, who claimed Bush didn't respond because he wanted the black people to die in the streets. Even more loony tune lefties suggested Bush had the levies BLOWN UP in order to flood the poor parts of town and kill the black people!

And.... there were even a few more, EXTREME kook lefties, who actually tried to claim that Bush and Cheney controlled the weather, and created the hurricane themselves! Oh, you people were ALL OVER THE BOARD with the insanity.... all of it pointing to George W. Bush! Disregarding the fact that nearly EVERY state and local official in Louisiana, sat on their hands and did nothing but WHINE ABOUT BUSH!

The vast majority of Americans thought Bush's response to Katrina (as well as his priorities when choosing a director of FEMA) was absolutely pathetic.

Not even a nice try on your part.

 

[meme]

The Obamabots, moderate Democrats and American people of all political stripes better wake up, and soon...

we have enemies within...