45% now trust the GOP more

maineman said:
the TREND from eight months shows an overall positive movement. one or two weeks worth of static in the data does not a trend make.

What do YOU attribute the overall positive trend from the past eight months to?
Click to expand...

and the TREND recently shows people viewing the direction wrong....

you're whining about some 8 month trend....the positive long trend could be due to various reaons. media coverage, election is over and the economy is getting better....

fact is, like i stated earlier, most americans do not support the spendulus plan and don't trust obama on it
 
Last edited:
Mottleydude said:
Well isn't that about like regretting you just spent the money you couldn't afford on a shopping trip? It's not "stimulus" it is "stimulate" because we done stimulated (i.e. we spent the money all ready.) or at least most of it.
Click to expand...

my understanding is that only 1/4 of obama's stimulus has been spent
 
Yurt said:
and the TREND recently shows people viewing the direction wrongly....

you're whining about some 8 month trend....the positive long trend could be due to various reaons. media coverage, election is over and the economy is getting better....

fact is, like i stated earlier, most americans do not support the spendulus plan and don't trust obama on it
Click to expand...

dont' forget the part about more voters trusting republicans on the top 2 most important issues, that being the economy and ethics, as well as 4 other top ten issues.
 
∂˚;459452 said:
dont' forget the part about more voters trusting republicans on the top 2 most important issues, that being the economy and ethics, as well as 4 other top ten issues.
Click to expand...

I'm loving the liberal angst over these recent trends...
 
christiefan915 said:
I've always taken Rasmussen with a grain of salt.

Rasmussen and Party ID - Part I

And speaking of putting the results of the new "automated" surveys under a microscope, we have some new data this week on party identification from automated pollster Scott Rasmussen. These data provide us with another opportunity to compare Rasmussen's results to those from other pollsters. While Rasmussen is certainly not an outlier in terms of party identification, there are subtle differences that suggest his polls reach a slightly more partisan universe than other surveys of American adults.

http://www.mysterypollster.com/main/2006/04/rasmussen_and_p.html
Click to expand...

If you take Rasmussen with a grain of salt, you might as well throw out any other polls before reading them. Rasmussen remains the most effective polling firm that releases data to the public. They are the PEW of political, current-events polling. They were the only polling firm to predict the outcome of the 2004 election to within a tenth of a percentage point, and they are one of the few firms that actually takes the trouble to poll likely voters instead of random numbers.
 
Epicurus said:
If you take Rasmussen with a grain of salt, you might as well throw out any other polls before reading them. Rasmussen remains the most effective polling firm that releases data to the public. They are the PEW of political, current-events polling. They were the only polling firm to predict the outcome of the 2004 election to within a tenth of a percentage point, and they are one of the few firms that actually takes the trouble to poll likely voters instead of random numbers.
Click to expand...

thankkk youuuu
 
Epicurus said:
If you take Rasmussen with a grain of salt, you might as well throw out any other polls before reading them. Rasmussen remains the most effective polling firm that releases data to the public. They are the PEW of political, current-events polling. They were the only polling firm to predict the outcome of the 2004 election to within a tenth of a percentage point, and they are one of the few firms that actually takes the trouble to poll likely voters instead of random numbers.
Click to expand...

Exactly right!
 
Note: I don't say that they will pick up seats because of anything the Republicans have done to deserve those gains, but almost inevitably the first midterm after a presidential election, the incumbent's party loses some seats. It's been the case for almost every president since FDR.

An interesting exception? George W. Bush, who actually increased his majority every year until 2006.*

*Ignoring Jim Jefford's defection.
 
Epicurus said:
If you take Rasmussen with a grain of salt, you might as well throw out any other polls before reading them. Rasmussen remains the most effective polling firm that releases data to the public. They are the PEW of political, current-events polling. They were the only polling firm to predict the outcome of the 2004 election to within a tenth of a percentage point, and they are one of the few firms that actually takes the trouble to poll likely voters instead of random numbers.
Click to expand...

Any poll that repeatedly skews from the average of other polls is suspect, IMO. RW's like to quote that 2004 business ad nauseum but how does one correct outcome make them better? In fact, a number of pollsters called it closer than Rasmussen in 2004.

Monday, November 8 2004
WHICH POLLSTER WAS THE MOST ACCURATE?: By and large the pollsters did an excellent job this year, especially when you consider the significant variables they were grappling with (massive registration increases, historic levels of intensity, cell phones, etc) and also that they were working under intense public scrutiny and scorching partisan attacks from both sides.

"At the national level the answer to the question is pretty straightforward. Ed Goeas's GW-Battleground Vote Projection and Pew Research got it exactly right. Goeas's final Battleground projection was Bush 51.2, Kerry 47.8, Nader 0.5 and Pew's final allocation was 51-48-1.

CBS News/NY Times also nailed the final spread in the race (Bush +3), though they didn't allocate undecideds which makes their final less impressive than Battleground's and Pew's.

Raghavan Mayur at TIPP also deserves a mention for outperforming almost all of the big media pollsters and coming in just a tick off the final results with their final Bush 50.1, Kerry 48.0, Nader 1.1 projection. Scott Rasmussen of Rasmussen Reports also had a solid final result with their Bush 50.2, Kerry 48.5 final projection."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary
/blog_11_8_04_1018.html

Did you read the link I posted?

http://www.mysterypollster.com/main/2006/04/rasmussen_and_p.html
 
Rasmussen polls were always a favorite of the neocons...being that they just coincidently always favor the conservative viewpoint.

Then again, if you followed the Rasmussen polls, the GOP wouldn't have lost it's edge in Congress and Obama wouldn't be President.

There's a website that has a collection of all the major polling companies...their average usually goes against Rasmussen.
 
I am still trying to figure out how the minority of people trusting the republicans more on 60% of the issues in the poll is something for the republicans to brag about.
 
Demwit said:
I am still trying to figure out how the minority of people trusting the republicans more on 60% of the issues in the poll is something for the republicans to brag about.
Click to expand...

because of it's a poll of likely voters, which is what electoral politics is all about, and predicts who may have an advantage for an upcoming election, which would result in public policy being vastly different.
 
Yurt said:
and the TREND recently shows people viewing the direction wrong....

you're whining about some 8 month trend....the positive long trend could be due to various reaons. media coverage, election is over and the economy is getting better....

fact is, like i stated earlier, most americans do not support the spendulus plan and don't trust obama on it
Click to expand...


like I said... if you want to make a big deal out of two weeks of polling data while ignoring eight months of polling data, you are being intellectually dishonest and, deep down, you know it.
 
maineman said:
like I said... if you want to make a big deal out of two weeks of polling data while ignoring eight months of polling data, you are being intellectually dishonest and, deep down, you know it.
Click to expand...

we don't live in the past maineman, elections are about the here and now. We aren't in october, we are in june, and currently, republicans are trusted on 6 of the top ten key issues, including the two most important as cited by the voters, that being the economy and ethics.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Rasmussen polls were always a favorite of the neocons...being that they just coincidently always favor the conservative viewpoint.

Then again, if you followed the Rasmussen polls, the GOP wouldn't have lost it's edge in Congress and Obama wouldn't be President.

There's a website that has a collection of all the major polling companies...their average usually goes against Rasmussen.
Click to expand...

Ridiculous since Rasmussen put congressional Dems and Obama in the lead in context to that trend and no one argued its accuracy then.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top