which repub moron told me racism was dead

Dude, cops don't take to complete compliance whenever they feel like it.

A. There was no intruder and NO ONE would be screaming racism if the cops had done their job properly and simply left the mans home when he proved it was his.

It's real simple.

B. African-Americans have a VERY GOOD REASON not to trust the police .. make that a PROVEN, STUDIED, and DOCUMENTED reason not to trust the police.

That's true in spite of you working with cops.

C. The case was dismissed with the quickness because it's obvious the cop did not handle the situation properly.


They did leave his house, once he proved it was his.

The reso of your complaint is just bigotry.
 
D. Gates Police Confrontation Ends With Charge Dropped

July 21 (Bloomberg) -- Police in Cambridge, Massachusetts, dropped a disorderly conduct charge against Harvard University African American studies professor Henry Louis Gates Jr., calling his arrest last week “regrettable and unfortunate.”

“This incident should not be viewed as one that demeans the character and reputation of Professor Gates or the character of the Cambridge Police Department,” said a statement today issued jointly by Gates, the police, the city of Cambridge and the Middlesex County district attorney. “All parties agree that this is a just resolution to an unfortunate set of circumstances.”

Gates, 58, director of Harvard’s W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for African & African American Research, was handcuffed and hauled away in a police car July 16 at 12:44 p.m. in front of his home in Cambridge, where Harvard is located, according to a police report. Police responded after a woman caller reported a man trying to force open the door of the Ware Street home with his shoulder, according to Officer Carlos Figueroa’s arrest report.

With stories appearing in The Times of London and newspapers across the U.S., the arrest drew international attention and rekindled some Harvard faculty members’ concern that police may be singling out black men for harassment, said S. Allen Counter, a university neuroscientist who was stopped by Harvard’s campus police in 2004. A panel commissioned by university President Drew Faust earlier this year said the school should create an outside ombudsman to review how its officers interact with students, faculty and staff.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=anupUHzw.F0Y

Let's see the hands of all the knuckleheads who believe that a department will call the proper actions of one of its officers "regrettable and unfortunate."

You seemed to miss this part, which was in your own post:

“This incident should not be viewed as one that demeans the character and reputation of Professor Gates or the character of the Cambridge Police Department,” said a statement today issued jointly by Gates, the police, the city of Cambridge and the Middlesex County district attorney. “All parties agree that this is a just resolution to an unfortunate set of circumstances.”

Please re-read the part where it said "...all parties..."!! :readit:
 
a few years ago my brother and his girlfriend were driving down a road when they made a wrong turn in an area where there was a construction sign, there was cops standing nearby and though he was going to fast in that area. They stopped him, dragged him out of the car, and threw him to the ground and started kicking him.

Keep in mind my brother never even had detention growing up...

They were also harassing his girlfriend, making lewd comments etc

They were pushing him as well, and after the fact my brother said he believed they were trying to provoke him into fighting back or resisting in anyway so that they could arrest him. My brother being smart didn't do shit and was basically like a rag doll. They eventually left him alone.

Had my brother been black, it obviously would have been a racist encounter.

*rolls eyes*

I think I saw that movie.
 
Obama is a politician and he's doing what politicians do. He knows many African-Americans are starting to see him as a pussy on race and this was his response to it .. no differently than when he was pushed to respond to Jena 6.

It doesn't make any difference what this cop was trained in or for .. I can bet you a dollar to a donut he was talked to by his superiors and told how he could have handled this better.

Is it possible that a police officer held animosity for the rich guy and used his authority to show it?

I'll take that bet and raise you that the Prof realized that he was acting like a total ass and apoligized.
 
I'll take that bet and raise you that the Prof realized that he was acting like a total ass and apoligized.

Gates apologized?

Link?

Unbeknowst to you is that aggressive ego-driven behavior from cops is common. It happens every fucking day .. although I'm sure you don't care about that, I do.

It doesn't matter how much education you have as a person of color, you still can’t escape institutional racism.

Although I don't suspect that you care about that either.
 
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Nobody is going to apologize, but it appears as if Obama is already regretting his remarks. The Press secretary was Nixonesque in his "Let me be clear, the President's remarks have been misinterpreted, he was not calling the police stupid."

(Nixonesque in the "clear" thing. I remember Nixon and his, "Let me be perfectly clear..." remarks.)

Anyway, when you start with "This is my friend" and "I don't have all the information" when you are the President it may be best to end with "So I won't say anything on that subject at this time."
 
Nobody is going to apologize, but it appears as if Obama is already regretting his remarks. The Press secretary was Nixonesque in his "Let me be clear, the President's remarks have been misinterpreted, he was not calling the police stupid."

(Nixonesque in the "clear" thing. I remember Nixon and his, "Let me be perfectly clear..." remarks.)

Anyway, when you start with "This is my friend" and "I don't have all the information" when you are the President it may be best to end with "So I won't say anything on that subject at this time."

Obama backtracking on what he said is as common as police abuse agaiunst people of color. It happens everyday.

He would have been better served by speaking to the injustice of police and courts that is an everyday occurance in the US and to the justification for the chasm between the police and people they are supposed to be protecting. Of course that requires courage .. thus, Obama would never say it.
 
Obama backtracking on what he said is as common as police abuse agaiunst people of color. It happens everyday.

He would have been better served by speaking to the injustice of police and courts that is an everyday occurance in the US and to the justification for the chasm between the police and people they are supposed to be protecting. Of course that requires courage .. thus, Obama would never say it.
I wouldn't mind at all seeing him actually open up the dialog by simply holding a conference on the subject. It would be refreshing to simply speak openly on the subject without having to constantly backtrack and overlap.
 
I wouldn't mind at all seeing him actually open up the dialog by simply holding a conference on the subject. It would be refreshing to simply speak openly on the subject without having to constantly backtrack and overlap.

Backtracking and nuance is what this president does. Get ready for a possible 8 years of it.

This is something I thought you might like to read ...

Skip Gates and the Post-Racial Project

Over the past several days a strange characterization of Professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. has emerged. Many are portraying him as a radical who easily and inappropriately appeals to race as an excuse and explanation. This image of Gates is inaccurate. In fact, more than any other black intellectual in the country Professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. was an apolitical figure. This is neither a criticism nor an accolade, simply an observation.

Gates is the director of the nation's preeminent institute for African American studies, but he is no race warrior seeking to right the racial injustices of the world. He is more a collector of black talent, intellect, art, and achievement. In this sense Gates embodies a kind of post-racialism: he celebrates and studies blackness, but does not attach a specific political agenda to race. For those who yearn for a post-racial America where all groups are equal recognized for their achievements, but where all people are free to be distinct individuals, there are few better models than Professor Gates.

Gates is largely responsible for the institutional investment in African American studies made by premier universities over the past two decades. Student activists and faculty advocates led the massive black studies movement of the 1960s; a movement that created substantial changes in course offerings, faculty recruitment, administrative structures, and student retention at many state universities. But the country's most privileged institutions remained largely untouched by this populist era of race and ethnic studies.

Rather than relying on techniques that mimicked the Civil Rights Movement, Gates helped innovate and perfected a market strategy for African American studies.

Gates used the inherent competitiveness of Ivy League institutions to create a hyper-elite niche for the very best black academics. His strategy improved the market value of black intellectuals throughout the academy and the public sphere. At one point Gates assembled a "dream team" at Harvard that included professors Cornel West, K. Anthony Appiah, Michael Dawson, Lawrence Bobo, Evelyn Brooks Higginbotham, Lani Guinier and William Julius Wilson.

For a fleeting moment Gates was the curator of the world's best living museum of black intellectual life. His Harvard cohort sent other prestigious schools into a competitive scramble to assemble their own collection, initiating a gilded age of black academia.

Some individuals would have approached this task as a racial mission; a chance to influence public policy and discourse toward progressive racial ends. This was not how Gates approached it. His style is more deliberate and more detached. By my reading, Gates is tremendously proud of his racial identity, history, and legacy, but he has no particular political agenda beyond the collection and display of black greatness, regardless of its political valence. For example, although their ideologies are profoundly oppositional, Gates finds both Colin Powell and Louis Farrakhan emblematic of black manhood and greatness.

Gates frequently compares himself to W.E.B. Du Bois for whom his institute is named. Aspects of the comparison are apt, but Du Bois, unlike Gates, was first and foremost, a race man with a political agenda. In the course of his long, prolific, academic and activist life Du Bois pursued every imaginable strategy to address America's racial inequality. He advocated education, research, patriotic military service, interracial coalitions, direct advocacy, legal strategies and journalism. He was first a staunch integrationist and later a socialist. His self-exile to Ghana was a final expression of his disillusionment with the American project.

Professor Gates is not disillusioned with the American project. He is enamored of it. His home casually mixes classic Americana with protest art of the black Diaspora. His dinner table is rarely segregated and his Rolodex certainly isn't. Even his more recent commitment to genealogy and fascination with the human genome project is prompted by his delight in uncovering the messy, unexpected, deeply American stories embedded in black life.

Du Bois was a product of the American racial nadir. He lived at the hardest moment in our history for black citizens. He was deeply suspicious of white America and constantly vigilant in his interactions with white Americans. Gates is possible only in our present moment.

Du Bois deplored the double consciousness the ripped at the black soul. Gates is remarkable, in part, because he doesn't wear a mask during interracial interactions. Gates is precisely the same man with an all-black crowd as with a predominately white one. Though he certainly perceives color he does not make the subtle rhetorical, political, or self-presentation adjustments that most African Americans consider both necessary and ordinary.

Gates is invested in black life, black history, black art, and black literature, but he has managed to achieve a largely post-political and even substantially post-racial existence.

Then he was arrested in his own home.

The Cambridge police and Professor Gates tell somewhat different versions of the story. But both sides agree that Gates came home to find his front door jammed. He used his key to enter by the back door. He and his driver then pushed at the front door until it opened. Witnessing this, someone called the police and indicated there may be a breaking-and-entering in progress. While Gates was on the phone with a property management company a police officer arrived. The officer requested identification. Gates produced it. Even after ascertaining that Gates had not illegally entered the property, the officer arrested him for disorderly conduct. The police report asserts Gates yelled and behaved aggressively. Gates denies this. The charges have been dropped. In short, Gates was arrested even though the police officer was fully aware that Gates lived in the home.

In a moment of overzealous policing a young officer in Cambridge managed to handcuff and detain the living embodiment of post-racial possibility.

And although Gates maintains "I thought the whole idea that America was post-racial and post-black was laughable from the beginning," as if in a testament to his apolitical sensibilities Gates said in an interview to TheRoot.com "I would sooner have believed the sky was going to fall from the heavens than I would have believed this could happen to me."

It is hard to imagine many other African American men who would indicate such surprise. Even President Obama has spoken of the difficulty in hailing a cab and First Lady Michelle Obama has expressed her understanding of black men's vulnerability to random violence. But Gates seems genuinely surprised and deeply hurt. His sense of violation and humiliation evokes great empathy, but also some incredulity about his astonishment with racial bias in the criminal justice system.

I like and respect Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Although we have had intellectual and political disagreements he has always welcomed dissent and encouraged individuality. Our personal connection is not why I was so devastated to see his mug shot or images of him handcuffed on his front porch. I was not even distressed because of class implications that reasoned, "If this can happen to a Harvard professor then no one is safe."

My distress is squarely rooted in feeling that I watched the police handcuff American possibility.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/454282/skip_gates_and_the_post_racial_project
 
Nobody is going to apologize, but it appears as if Obama is already regretting his remarks. The Press secretary was Nixonesque in his "Let me be clear, the President's remarks have been misinterpreted, he was not calling the police stupid."

(Nixonesque in the "clear" thing. I remember Nixon and his, "Let me be perfectly clear..." remarks.)

Anyway, when you start with "This is my friend" and "I don't have all the information" when you are the President it may be best to end with "So I won't say anything on that subject at this time."

:hedb:
 
Gates apologized?

Link?

Unbeknowst to you is that aggressive ego-driven behavior from cops is common. It happens every fucking day .. although I'm sure you don't care about that, I do.

It doesn't matter how much education you have as a person of color, you still can’t escape institutional racism.

Although I don't suspect that you care about that either.

I'll give you the link, right after you give one that shows that the Officer was "talked to" like you suggested.

You could have avioded all that typing, by just putting this up:

:crybaby:
 
Backtracking and nuance is what this president does. Get ready for a possible 8 years of it.

This is something I thought you might like to read ...

Skip Gates and the Post-Racial Project

Over the past several days a strange characterization of Professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. has emerged. Many are portraying him as a radical who easily and inappropriately appeals to race as an excuse and explanation. This image of Gates is inaccurate. In fact, more than any other black intellectual in the country Professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. was an apolitical figure. This is neither a criticism nor an accolade, simply an observation.

Gates is the director of the nation's preeminent institute for African American studies, but he is no race warrior seeking to right the racial injustices of the world. He is more a collector of black talent, intellect, art, and achievement. In this sense Gates embodies a kind of post-racialism: he celebrates and studies blackness, but does not attach a specific political agenda to race. For those who yearn for a post-racial America where all groups are equal recognized for their achievements, but where all people are free to be distinct individuals, there are few better models than Professor Gates.

Gates is largely responsible for the institutional investment in African American studies made by premier universities over the past two decades. Student activists and faculty advocates led the massive black studies movement of the 1960s; a movement that created substantial changes in course offerings, faculty recruitment, administrative structures, and student retention at many state universities. But the country's most privileged institutions remained largely untouched by this populist era of race and ethnic studies.

Rather than relying on techniques that mimicked the Civil Rights Movement, Gates helped innovate and perfected a market strategy for African American studies.

Gates used the inherent competitiveness of Ivy League institutions to create a hyper-elite niche for the very best black academics. His strategy improved the market value of black intellectuals throughout the academy and the public sphere. At one point Gates assembled a "dream team" at Harvard that included professors Cornel West, K. Anthony Appiah, Michael Dawson, Lawrence Bobo, Evelyn Brooks Higginbotham, Lani Guinier and William Julius Wilson.

For a fleeting moment Gates was the curator of the world's best living museum of black intellectual life. His Harvard cohort sent other prestigious schools into a competitive scramble to assemble their own collection, initiating a gilded age of black academia.

Some individuals would have approached this task as a racial mission; a chance to influence public policy and discourse toward progressive racial ends. This was not how Gates approached it. His style is more deliberate and more detached. By my reading, Gates is tremendously proud of his racial identity, history, and legacy, but he has no particular political agenda beyond the collection and display of black greatness, regardless of its political valence. For example, although their ideologies are profoundly oppositional, Gates finds both Colin Powell and Louis Farrakhan emblematic of black manhood and greatness.

Gates frequently compares himself to W.E.B. Du Bois for whom his institute is named. Aspects of the comparison are apt, but Du Bois, unlike Gates, was first and foremost, a race man with a political agenda. In the course of his long, prolific, academic and activist life Du Bois pursued every imaginable strategy to address America's racial inequality. He advocated education, research, patriotic military service, interracial coalitions, direct advocacy, legal strategies and journalism. He was first a staunch integrationist and later a socialist. His self-exile to Ghana was a final expression of his disillusionment with the American project.

Professor Gates is not disillusioned with the American project. He is enamored of it. His home casually mixes classic Americana with protest art of the black Diaspora. His dinner table is rarely segregated and his Rolodex certainly isn't. Even his more recent commitment to genealogy and fascination with the human genome project is prompted by his delight in uncovering the messy, unexpected, deeply American stories embedded in black life.

Du Bois was a product of the American racial nadir. He lived at the hardest moment in our history for black citizens. He was deeply suspicious of white America and constantly vigilant in his interactions with white Americans. Gates is possible only in our present moment.

Du Bois deplored the double consciousness the ripped at the black soul. Gates is remarkable, in part, because he doesn't wear a mask during interracial interactions. Gates is precisely the same man with an all-black crowd as with a predominately white one. Though he certainly perceives color he does not make the subtle rhetorical, political, or self-presentation adjustments that most African Americans consider both necessary and ordinary.

Gates is invested in black life, black history, black art, and black literature, but he has managed to achieve a largely post-political and even substantially post-racial existence.

Then he was arrested in his own home.

The Cambridge police and Professor Gates tell somewhat different versions of the story. But both sides agree that Gates came home to find his front door jammed. He used his key to enter by the back door. He and his driver then pushed at the front door until it opened. Witnessing this, someone called the police and indicated there may be a breaking-and-entering in progress. While Gates was on the phone with a property management company a police officer arrived. The officer requested identification. Gates produced it. Even after ascertaining that Gates had not illegally entered the property, the officer arrested him for disorderly conduct. The police report asserts Gates yelled and behaved aggressively. Gates denies this. The charges have been dropped. In short, Gates was arrested even though the police officer was fully aware that Gates lived in the home.

In a moment of overzealous policing a young officer in Cambridge managed to handcuff and detain the living embodiment of post-racial possibility.

And although Gates maintains "I thought the whole idea that America was post-racial and post-black was laughable from the beginning," as if in a testament to his apolitical sensibilities Gates said in an interview to TheRoot.com "I would sooner have believed the sky was going to fall from the heavens than I would have believed this could happen to me."

It is hard to imagine many other African American men who would indicate such surprise. Even President Obama has spoken of the difficulty in hailing a cab and First Lady Michelle Obama has expressed her understanding of black men's vulnerability to random violence. But Gates seems genuinely surprised and deeply hurt. His sense of violation and humiliation evokes great empathy, but also some incredulity about his astonishment with racial bias in the criminal justice system.

I like and respect Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Although we have had intellectual and political disagreements he has always welcomed dissent and encouraged individuality. Our personal connection is not why I was so devastated to see his mug shot or images of him handcuffed on his front porch. I was not even distressed because of class implications that reasoned, "If this can happen to a Harvard professor then no one is safe."

My distress is squarely rooted in feeling that I watched the police handcuff American possibility.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/454282/skip_gates_and_the_post_racial_project

Now that's some really good damage control.
Good job on helping him CHA.
 
Gates apologized?

Link?

Unbeknowst to you is that aggressive ego-driven behavior from cops is common. It happens every fucking day .. although I'm sure you don't care about that, I do.

It doesn't matter how much education you have as a person of color, you still can’t escape institutional racism.

Although I don't suspect that you care about that either.
Gates will never apologize to the people who were trying to protect his home. He's obviously an elitist wind bag who plays the race card at every opportunity; he reminds me of you. *shrug*
 
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