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e have been here before in the short history of the United States, and we will survive this time too. During the Founding of this country we had to face down the Tories. They were the "conservatives" of that time and desired to remain under the control of the Corporate entities, and the government, of that time. Then we had the "conservatives" of the South, and their desire to keep slavery alive just ass they feel the need to do so now with their "Right to Work" ideology, and "slave wages". The n came WW2, and again the "conservatives" of the day supported Hitler, Nazism, Nativism (America First, and "The Big Lie" of Hitler) under the leadership of the likes of Charles Lindbergh. And throughout this period was the self imposed belief in racism even as "conservatives" today wish to impose it on the American people. IMO, that is just pone of the reasons that so-called "conservatives" today oppose the teaching of CRT.
It is my hope that we will survive this latest distraction, and threat, from the right wing of the country. There is no doubt that they would love to see the image of Hitler rise as the "king" of the United States. They share the same ideology of hatred, fear, and paranoia, that the German people shared at that time. And as the rest of the world seeks to rid themselves of the control by the Elites (Authoritarians) they seek to bend the knee to their masters ignoring the warnings of God, and the Founders.
Or do we deserve their "king"?
"Jesus is not a Republican. This has been said before. But now it must be said more loudly and more clearly than ever. There are good and godly men and women who vote Republican and serve in elected office as Republicans. But the association of the name of Christ with the Republican party of Trump has become a scourge of shame for the church. The time has come––indeed, it is long overdue––for the entire church to denounce this association in the strongest possible terms.
Jesus was not a violent revolutionary. It is not uncommon for Christians, particularly progressive Christians, to describe Jesus as a revolutionary. Of course, in a sense, this is absolutely true. During Jesus’ first life on earth, he challenged many social norms having to do with Torah observance, women’s roles in society, and association with the marginalized. However, Jesus was not a violent revolutionary. The “zealots” of Jesus’ day were revolutionaries who aspired to violent rebellion against Rome in God’s name. Jews had successfully (though temporarily) thrown off the rule of their imperial overlords in the Maccabean Revolt less than two centuries earlier. The Jews would rebel again in the century following Jesus’ death and resurrection, this time unsuccessfully and with devastating results for the nation.
But Jesus was not a zealot. When asked whether God’s people should pay taxes to the empire, Jesus answered “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s. Give to God what is God’s.” (Mark 12:17) When Jesus was arrested, Peter rose violently to his Rabbi’s defense. Jesus rebuked him, saying “Put your sword back in its place, for all who choose the sword will be destroyed by the sword. Don’t you realize I can call on my Father, and he will at once put more than twelve legions of angels at my disposal?” (Matt 26:52–53, my translation) He later tells the Jewish authorities, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would be fighting to prevent my arrest.” (John 18:36, my translation)
What this means for Christians today is that the way of violence is not the way of Christ. Much has been said in recent days about the hypocrisy of “the left” or “the media” denouncing the violence in the Capitol while endorsing the violence of the BLM movement last year. Frankly, I don’t care that much whether “the left” or “the right” are hypocrites. What I do care about is that the violence at the Capitol was perpetrated in Jesus’ name. Look no further than the Christian symbols that permeated the rioters’ ranks, including a massive yellow sign reading “Jesus Saves” on the steps of the Capitol, crosses in the crowd, or t-shirts reading “Jesus is my Savior and Trump is my President.” As far as I can tell no glaring effort was made by BLM demonstrators to associate their movement with Jesus or the mission of God in America. That, without question, makes the violence of the movement at the Capitol the more grievous sin, akin to the wicked acts of the professing Christians who perpetrated the Crusades in the Holy Land. Jesus’ Kingdom comes, not through violence, but through love."
https://www.pastortheologians.com/a...epublican-and-christianity-is-not-nationalism
They're Not Conservatives, They're Extremists - Institute for Policy Studies
https://ips-dc.org/theyre-not-conservatives-theyre-extremists/
The Political Legacy of American Slavery | The Journal of Politics: Vol 78, No 3
https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/686631
How do Trump’s Republicans compare to the rest of the world’s political parties?
https://www.newstatesman.com/world/...blicans-compare-rest-worlds-political-parties
America First, for Charles Lindbergh and Donald Trump
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/america-first-for-charles-lindbergh-and-donald-trump
It is my hope that we will survive this latest distraction, and threat, from the right wing of the country. There is no doubt that they would love to see the image of Hitler rise as the "king" of the United States. They share the same ideology of hatred, fear, and paranoia, that the German people shared at that time. And as the rest of the world seeks to rid themselves of the control by the Elites (Authoritarians) they seek to bend the knee to their masters ignoring the warnings of God, and the Founders.
Or do we deserve their "king"?
"Jesus is not a Republican. This has been said before. But now it must be said more loudly and more clearly than ever. There are good and godly men and women who vote Republican and serve in elected office as Republicans. But the association of the name of Christ with the Republican party of Trump has become a scourge of shame for the church. The time has come––indeed, it is long overdue––for the entire church to denounce this association in the strongest possible terms.
Jesus was not a violent revolutionary. It is not uncommon for Christians, particularly progressive Christians, to describe Jesus as a revolutionary. Of course, in a sense, this is absolutely true. During Jesus’ first life on earth, he challenged many social norms having to do with Torah observance, women’s roles in society, and association with the marginalized. However, Jesus was not a violent revolutionary. The “zealots” of Jesus’ day were revolutionaries who aspired to violent rebellion against Rome in God’s name. Jews had successfully (though temporarily) thrown off the rule of their imperial overlords in the Maccabean Revolt less than two centuries earlier. The Jews would rebel again in the century following Jesus’ death and resurrection, this time unsuccessfully and with devastating results for the nation.
But Jesus was not a zealot. When asked whether God’s people should pay taxes to the empire, Jesus answered “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s. Give to God what is God’s.” (Mark 12:17) When Jesus was arrested, Peter rose violently to his Rabbi’s defense. Jesus rebuked him, saying “Put your sword back in its place, for all who choose the sword will be destroyed by the sword. Don’t you realize I can call on my Father, and he will at once put more than twelve legions of angels at my disposal?” (Matt 26:52–53, my translation) He later tells the Jewish authorities, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would be fighting to prevent my arrest.” (John 18:36, my translation)
What this means for Christians today is that the way of violence is not the way of Christ. Much has been said in recent days about the hypocrisy of “the left” or “the media” denouncing the violence in the Capitol while endorsing the violence of the BLM movement last year. Frankly, I don’t care that much whether “the left” or “the right” are hypocrites. What I do care about is that the violence at the Capitol was perpetrated in Jesus’ name. Look no further than the Christian symbols that permeated the rioters’ ranks, including a massive yellow sign reading “Jesus Saves” on the steps of the Capitol, crosses in the crowd, or t-shirts reading “Jesus is my Savior and Trump is my President.” As far as I can tell no glaring effort was made by BLM demonstrators to associate their movement with Jesus or the mission of God in America. That, without question, makes the violence of the movement at the Capitol the more grievous sin, akin to the wicked acts of the professing Christians who perpetrated the Crusades in the Holy Land. Jesus’ Kingdom comes, not through violence, but through love."
https://www.pastortheologians.com/a...epublican-and-christianity-is-not-nationalism
They're Not Conservatives, They're Extremists - Institute for Policy Studies
https://ips-dc.org/theyre-not-conservatives-theyre-extremists/
The Political Legacy of American Slavery | The Journal of Politics: Vol 78, No 3
https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/686631
How do Trump’s Republicans compare to the rest of the world’s political parties?
https://www.newstatesman.com/world/...blicans-compare-rest-worlds-political-parties
America First, for Charles Lindbergh and Donald Trump
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/america-first-for-charles-lindbergh-and-donald-trump
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