CRT - what is it you object to.

Why YES,....it appears she did.

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How so? Wondering how you would know that when you are legally prohibited from being within 100 yards of any school.

Yep.....looks like a vague reference to me. Plus you are again bearing false witness by saying such a thing about the other member.
 
I understand the Republicans have beta tested the phrase Critical Race Theory and it sounds scary when said in a certain way but do you even understand what it is? What is it exactly that you object to? Because in response Florida has legislation pending that will prevent teachers from providing information that might make make students uncomfortable.... (Education should sometimes make students uncomfortable) Virginia has a hotline where you can report teachers you suspect are teaching something controversial.

Where do we draw the line?

Why are these people such snowflakes?

Why are we afraid of our children knowing the truth?

Do we want to give our kids propaganda or the truth about who we are?

The phrase CRT was beta tested by the people who created it.
 
The phrase CRT was beta tested by the people who created it.

The people that created it were by and large all Marxists. Here is a black man who understands that perfectly well unlike you!

Critical Race Theory – The Marxist Trojan Horse

Last week, on Tuesday, July 27, I was honored to be the leadoff panelist at the Orange County Board of Education community forum on Critical Race Theory and Ethnic Studies. I spoke on Critical Race Theory (CRT), which has been in academia for decades but has only recently come to the fore in the public consciousness due to progressive advocacy that CRT be taught in K-12. Concerned parents across the country have become acutely aware something is amiss with CRT, and Orange County was no exception. Prior to the panelist speeches, a highly diverse collection of concerned parents crossing race, gender, and political boundaries univocally expressed their deep concerns about the proposed California Ethnic Studies curriculum and the key underlying philosophy driving it: Critical Race Theory. They have good reason.

I think parents finally understand why so many of their children who go off to college full of hope leave those institutions with a disdain for America and our capitalist system. Parents fully expect their children will be exposed to opposing ideas and philosophies in college, confident they have instilled lasting values that will serve them as adults. For K-12 students, however, that is the job of the parent, not the school, and CRT is correctly viewed by parents as the inculcation of a specific worldview based on postmodern and neo-Marxist ideology. Despite the assertion of political pundits such as Donna Brazile, former chairman of the Democratic National Committee, or the current White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki, CRT is not simply teaching children about systemic racism throughout American history.

CRT has its roots in the early 20th Century thought of neo-Marxist Antonio Gramsci, founder of the Italian Communist Party. His desire was to spur on the stalled communism of 19th Century social revolutionists Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels toward an overthrow of the “bourgeoisie” (ruling middle- and upper-class) by the proletariat (working-class). To accomplish this goal, societal norms and institutions, such as family, nation state, capitalism, and God, needed to be torn down, and this is where we begin to see the notion of group-based morality, with the idea that what is moral is what serves the interests of the “oppressed” or “marginalized.”

While European Marxism focused on class, a distinctly American brand of Marxism was brought to America in 1937 by scholars from the Institute for Social Research in Frankfurt, Germany, known commonly as the Frankfurt School, who left Nazi Germany to escape the Third Reich. They eventually landed in New York where they setup shop at the Columbia University Teachers’ College. While most of the Frankfurt scholars returned to Germany after the defeat of the Nazis, Herbert Marcuse stayed behind and became one of the leading spokesmen of Critical Theory (on which CRT is based) during the massive upheavals of the 1960s and early 1970s caused by riots and violence associated with the Civil Rights and anti-Vietnam movements. The focus shifted specifically to oppressed ethnic, racial, and gender groups.

In short, CRT argues that America’s legal, economic, and political systems are inextricably racist. It argues that racism advances only the interests of white elites materially and working-class whites mentally. CRT Chooses race-consciousness over the Enlightenment view of colorblindness as a societal norm. Since all whites benefit from an unearned advantage, race-consciousness remedies rectify this inherent injustice. CRT criticizes the civil-rights movement and the liberal ideology it promotes. The view is civil rights laws are limited to isolated discriminatory acts by individuals or businesses, when in fact discrimination continues to be both pervasive and systemic. CRT rejects the principle of equal opportunity, believing it to be a myth, and rejects conceptions of “merit” since only those in power determine what is equal or what has merit. Finally, CRT promotes equality of results instead of equality of opportunity.

CRT does provide some important critiques, but its prescriptions hardly accord with the ideals of traditional civil rights and is directly opposed to the vision of civil rights leader Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., as it rejects the Enlightenment values of classical liberalism with its notions of equal opportunity, individual liberty over group rights, and colorblindness under the law as reflected in the Declaration of Independence and U.S. Constitution. Dr. Wyatt T. Walker, one of Dr. King’s closest friends and advisers, argues that CRT divides people into groups, explicitly pitting racial groups against each other, emphasizing differences instead of similarities, thus destroying the concept of the individual within the context of our shared humanity.

Whereas the hope that one day we would judge one another by the content of individual character, and not the color of our skin, CRT defines people by categories of race, placing people in either “oppressor” or “oppressed” power groups. In response to this, Dr. Wyatt asks, how can two people ever bind together in friendship if they are members of inherently opposed power groups? Why should an individual strive to succeed by merit if group dynamics make this impossible? How will we ever find peace among the races if can’t look at each other as individuals, person to person, based on actual facts and intentions? We simply cannot reconcile as a people if we allow ourselves to be judged by the ethnic, race, and gender essentialism of Marxist-style power groups, and thus we should reject CRT.

Indeed, America has had a long and horrific period of chattel slavery followed by Jim Crow and racial codes that persisted well into the 1960s and 70s. But these practices ended as more Americans understood the gross violations of the U.S. Constitution and Declaration of Independence. As a black man, I have seen tremendous progress over my lifetime, and while I’m cognizant racism will always exist, simply because evil will always exist, the only systematic oppression I see currently is the failure of public-school systems across America to prepare black and brown children for future economic success. It is the greatest tragedy of our time. And what is abundantly clear is CRT does nothing to advance the basic mission of K-12 education, while doing much to detract from it.

https://www.discovery.org/education/2021/08/05/critical-race-theory-the-marxist-trojan-horse/
 
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It was created by academics and not in an attempt to gain power or money.

When in the fuck have Marxists not attempted to gain power? Just take the progressives' insatiable lust for power, multiply it by a factor of ten, and you might better appreciate how silly that is.
 
When in the fuck have Marxists not attempted to gain power? Just take the progressives' insatiable lust for power, multiply it by a factor of ten, and you might better appreciate how silly that is.

Not created by Marxists.
 
Why YES,....it appears she did.

12(b) - No sexual comments relating to minors. With the exception of news articles or a mature discussion involving stats, how it effects people etc, We DO NOT want ANY mention in ANY context about suggesting encounters with another poster and a child, or with yourself and another poster's child, nor any mention of kids being sexually assaulted, sexually molested, raped, having people being called pedophiles, suggesting posters may have been molested as a kid, having vague references to any of the former, having a "clever" play on words with a wink and a nod that might suggest any of the former, any slight references, WE WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF IT. Do not try to approach the line to test us to see what one can get away with, if you approach the line, chances are you will not receive the benefit of the doubt.
She did indeed...;)
 
Hello ThatOwlWoman,

Right. How interesting that it's only the racists who are making a non-issue into The Most Horrible Thing in America. Moderate, liberal, non-radical, non-racist mainstream parents rightfully realize that this is much ado about nothing.

From what some in this thread have said, it sounds like they are appalled by what amounts to lessons in empathy, in learning to see someone else's point of view. This is, of course, something that ideally would be taught at home by parents, through example and gentle correction. But since racists don't want their kids having empathy for non-whites, looks like it's up to the schools.

This is not, of course, "critical race theory." It's just another version of the mythic "war on Christmas" victimhood they so love to wallow in.

Totally nailed it. That is exactly what's going on. This is the essence of how hatred and racism are passed down from generation to generation. Knowledge is truly scary to those determined to cling to unfounded fear and dislike.

And you know? For all those haters? I bet if they just had a chance to just drop all the preconceptions, kick back and hang out together one on one in a non-threatening mixed race situation, perhaps during a block party or similar, it would be all different. It could be like an awakening if they could just make friends across the self-imposed boundaries. But no. They would never do that. Deep inside, they are afraid. Of what, who knows. Sad.
 
Hello ThatOwlWoman,



Totally nailed it. That is exactly what's going on. This is the essence of how hatred and racism are passed down from generation to generation. Knowledge is truly scary to those determined to cling to unfounded fear and dislike.

And you know? For all those haters? I bet if they just had a chance to just drop all the preconceptions, kick back and hang out together one on one in a non-threatening mixed race situation, perhaps during a block party or similar, it would be all different. It could be like an awakening if they could just make friends across the self-imposed boundaries. But no. They would never do that. Deep inside, they are afraid. Of what, who knows. Sad.

yet its crt that teaches race as the primary definition of a person, and the most important operative factor in all facets of life, and that racism is inescapable.

(yes yes i know, a little bit of non parallel construction. cant be helped.)
 
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