Why conservatives are stupid

Dixie said:
What is interesting to me is, this thread began talking about 'conservatives' and 'economics' and has evolved into yet another Bush-bashing Fest. Just for the record, the FACT is, George W. Bush was more fiscally LIBERAL than the previous two Democrat presidents combined. He expanded government and increased deficit spending to unprecedented levels. His massive social entitlement spending and increased funding far exceeded any tax cuts he implemented. He gave more of our tax dollars to AIDS research than any president in history. Yet, these prime examples of Bush economic failure are never mentioned, instead, you pinheads revert to the WMD's in Iraq, which have ZERO to do with 'conservative economics'. Of course, Bush's 'Compassionate Conservatism' had as much to do with WMD's as it did with Conservative Economics, so maybe that is where you were headed?
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Yes, Bush was more like a liberal with his spending, but only as far as the VOLUME of spending. But this does not, in the least, make Bush a problem brought to us by liberals or democrats. He and his entire administration were republicans. His policies were routinely bashed by the democrats.
 
Seriously, look at this:

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Notice a pattern? Reagan had huge spending, and the cut in government during Clinton years was large, but undone by the Bush administration.
 
uscitizen said:
It gets frustrating trying to have a rational discussion with a rock brained obvious union hater.

I have about the same viewpoint on the GM situation that Damo does. Although he would rather eat slugs than admit to it.

Let all non viable businesses fold and help the displaced workers.
It is time for change not more of the same, rebuild America from the bottom up, not more of the same from the top down. And I include both political parties in that rebuilding effort. Both suck in their current form.

I do not think we have any "leaders" with the balls to do what needs doing though.
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I am far from "rock brained", and my contempt for unions is based on reasonable judgment about what they do to workers and the corresponding results now felt throughout the economy.

Your attitude appears to be 'everything sucks so lets change it', which is far from a reasonable position.
 
Southern Man said:
I am far from "rock brained", and my contempt for unions is based on reasonable judgment about what they do to workers and the corresponding results now felt throughout the economy.

Your attitude appears to be 'everything sucks so lets change it', which is far from a reasonable position.
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Resonable judgement?

just wow...

Have a happy new year dude.
 
uscitizen said:
both parties need to be rational to have a rational discussion.
you and I together only make up half of that requirement.
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But you have the option to begin behaving rationally, as I have done since first posting here. Or you continue to steer the discussion away from the actual issue at hand and offer back-handed insults.
 
Famov said:
Oh, I'm not saying that this guy is correct. My point is just two things:

1. What you said in your first post wouldn't be true even if this guy is correct.

2. Even if he is wrong, it is neither a reflection on the greater ideals behind fiscal conservatism nor is it proof that fiscal conservatism has somehow failed. This is especially true since something cannot fail when it hasn't been implemented on a national scale for close to seventy years.

In fact, even Reagan's Administration spent like crazy, and a lot of conservatives have trouble coming to terms with that.
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1. You're an idiot.

2. You're an idiot.
 
watermark 9 months later:

Grind: man you are going to town with that chart you posted on cracked showing tax cuts decrease employment

Watermark: It shows that there's no correlation between tax rate and unemployment.
Watermark: Dumbass.

(watermark now admits there is no correlation. 9 months later.
 
€ r ı π ∂;509705 said:
watermark 9 months later:

Grind: man you are going to town with that chart you posted on cracked showing tax cuts decrease employment

Watermark: It shows that there's no correlation between tax rate and unemployment.
Watermark: Dumbass.

(watermark now admits there is no correlation. 9 months later.
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But is there a correlation between tax cuts and increased employment?
Can you show that?
 
TheHappyHippo said:
Look at this piece of toilet paper:

http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=315013017995711

Apparently, a tax increase of 1% of the GDP means a whopping 3% increase in unemployment.

So if we abolished taxes we'd have -40% unemployment. And in Denmark, Norway, and Sweden, countries with vibrant economies functioning much better than Americas, unemployment is apparently supposed to be 60%, because they're taxation per GDP is twice ours.
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because, of course, every liberal knows that all graphs have straight lines......ah sorry, was using "Today's Posts", didn't realize this thread was ancient....
 
uscitizen said:
cons refuse to give up on their concepts even when repeatedly proven to fail.
Keep trying it it will work eventually.
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Im not sure that's been proven.

This recent debacle was possible because of government guarantee of loans and the abuse that inevitably comes with any irrational guarantee, and that's a lefty thing.
 
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