So much for the Wilson effect...

Not I, Dincy. If I predicted anything about the last election, is that the media would prop up Mickey right up until he got the nomination, then urinate all over him, and they of course did just that.
 
I don't recall anyone named "Mickey" on the ticket.

Are you confusing the presidential election with the local Klan ballot?
 
Let's hope the conservatards run Serra Paylin against President Obama.
 
DNC said:
South Carolinians are notoriously racist knuckledraggers.

They started the Civil War in a vain attempt to preserve slavery.

Strom Thurmond was a South Carolinian.

Their GOP governor is an admitted adulterer.

Their state capitol flies the racist battle flag of the defeated Confederacy.

Of course the GOP is popular there, as long as the police are used to keep minorities from voting out retards like Wilson and DeMint.
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You haven't spent much time in South Carolina, have you?
 
Superfreak said:
What mass movement? The biggest increase appears to have come from within the DEM party.... not from Independents and Republicans.

As I stated, Obama (who is a great teleprompter reader) stated some things regarding the cost that are not accurate. As people realize that fact, this is going to swing back. Bottom line, it was more due to Obama's mischaracterizations and not due to Wilson's outburst. Which was the point.

BAC and others suggested that there would be a mass movement. Gaining ground within your own party is hardly a mass movement.

Pretending otherwise is pretty stupid. Especially considering the plan still lacks majority support among independents.
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Democrats are a massive portion of the electorate, and most of them are moderates who aren't exactly slam-dunks. Gaining ground is gaining ground. If your own party wasn't very enthusiastic about something, and you give a speech which has no effect on the conservative independents and Republicans but gets an ecstatic reception from your own (very much dominant) party, it's a very good thing. A game changer.
 
Superfreak said:
"Forty-seven percent (47%) of unaffiliated voters now favor the plan while 50% are opposed. Those figures include 19% who Strongly Favor the plan and 38% who are Strongly Opposed."

The independent vote is still against, with the vast majority of those opposed being 'strongly opposed'. That is not a sign that he will see a mass shift in voting.
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The independent vote is split. The difference is within the margin of error, so it's essentially a tie. Again, with independents split, Democrats massively for, and Republicans massively against, that puts the electorate on our side, since the Democratic slice is bigger than the Republican slice.
 
Superfreak said:
LMAO... which case did you just close?

While the percentage who state they are independent varies by poll, I believe more recent polls suggest about 39% say they are Dems, 21% Reps, the remainder are independent/third party (I have not seen a breakdown).

Independents gave Obama his election win last year. They can just as easily hammer the Dems in 2010.
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Republicans are down to 21%? Where did you get that?
 
froggie said:
Well good for him, I just wish he had not broken protocol, but it seems to be the trend in this country. Good manners are quickly flying out the window. Civility is no longer one of the things that Americans can claim in the Halls of Congress.

He is entitled to his opinion, there has always been a place and a time. I would not go to church and yell liar at a priest or minister. There is a place and a time to voice our beliefs, other times, we should keep them to ourselves, no matter how much passion we have when it comes to the subject matter being discussed.

I can see fight clubs and arenas for gang wars if this keeps up.
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By a "place and time to voice our beliefs"; do you mean that elected representatives booing during a Presidential speech is uncalled for also??
 
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