Official: Russia scraps plan to deploy missiles near Poland

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MOSCOW (AP) — Russia has scrapped a plan to deploy missiles in a region near Poland after President Obama dumped his predecessor's plan for a U.S. missile defense in Eastern Europe, a Russian deputy defense minister said Saturday.
Vladimir Popovkin told Ekho Moskvy radio that Obama's move has made the deployment of Iskander short-range missiles in the Kaliningrad region unnecessary.

"Reason has prevailed over ambitions," Popovkin said. "Naturally, we will cancel countermeasures which Russia has planned in response."

There had already been signals that Russia would scrap the plan after Obama's move, announced Thursday, but Popovkin's statement is the clearest announcement of it.

Russia staunchly opposed the plan by the former administration of George W. Bush to deploy 10 missile interceptors in Poland and a related radar in the Czech Republic and said if the project went ahead it would respond by deploying the Iskander missiles in its westernmost Baltic Sea region.

Obama's decision to scrap the plan was based largely on a new U.S. intelligence assessment that Iran's effort to build a nuclear-capable long-range missile would take three to five years longer than originally thought, U.S. officials said. The new U.S. missile-defense plan would rely on a network of sensors and interceptor missiles based at sea, on land and in the air as a bulwark against Iranian short- and medium-range missiles.

Medvedev hailed Obama's decision as a "responsible move," but Russian officials have given no indication yet that Moscow could edge closer to the U.S. stance on Iran. Washington is counting on Moscow to help raise pressure on Tehran over its nuclear program.

Obama is to meet with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev at the United Nations and the Group of 20 economic summit in the coming week.

Medvedev's predecessor and mentor, Vladimir Putin, who is widely believed to be continuing to call the shots as Russia's prime minister, also praised Obama's decision but challenged the U.S. to do more by canceling Cold War-era restrictions on trade with Russia and facilitating Moscow's entry into the World Trade Organization.

It has remained unclear what behind-the-scenes talks went on between Moscow and Washington before Obama's announcement. Russian officials said they had made no concessions in return.

Medvedev foreign policy adviser Sergei Prikhodko said Friday the move would require the Kremlin to "attentively consider new possibilities opening up for cooperation and interaction," but gave no indication what compromises Moscow could make.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/russia-missiles.htm?csp=24&RM_Exclude=Juno

A hand for Obama on this ... :hand:
 
Oh yeah fer sure, I'll believe everything that Russia says, no problemo

I know I now feel MUCH safer with this President in charge..:rolleyes:

we all might want to start hoping and praying..
 
Oh yeah fer sure, I'll believe everything that Russia says, no problemo

I know I now feel MUCH safer with this President in charge..:rolleyes:

we all might want to start hoping and praying..

The fact that you're against makes me feel safer.
 
Memeliar probably claims to have seen Russia from the bases she worked on for 20 years.
 
MOSCOW (AP) — Russia has scrapped a plan to deploy missiles in a region near Poland after President Obama dumped his predecessor's plan for a U.S. missile defense in Eastern Europe, a Russian deputy defense minister said Saturday.
Vladimir Popovkin told Ekho Moskvy radio that Obama's move has made the deployment of Iskander short-range missiles in the Kaliningrad region unnecessary.

"Reason has prevailed over ambitions," Popovkin said. "Naturally, we will cancel countermeasures which Russia has planned in response."

There had already been signals that Russia would scrap the plan after Obama's move, announced Thursday, but Popovkin's statement is the clearest announcement of it.

Russia staunchly opposed the plan by the former administration of George W. Bush to deploy 10 missile interceptors in Poland and a related radar in the Czech Republic and said if the project went ahead it would respond by deploying the Iskander missiles in its westernmost Baltic Sea region.

Obama's decision to scrap the plan was based largely on a new U.S. intelligence assessment that Iran's effort to build a nuclear-capable long-range missile would take three to five years longer than originally thought, U.S. officials said. The new U.S. missile-defense plan would rely on a network of sensors and interceptor missiles based at sea, on land and in the air as a bulwark against Iranian short- and medium-range missiles.

Medvedev hailed Obama's decision as a "responsible move," but Russian officials have given no indication yet that Moscow could edge closer to the U.S. stance on Iran. Washington is counting on Moscow to help raise pressure on Tehran over its nuclear program.

Obama is to meet with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev at the United Nations and the Group of 20 economic summit in the coming week.

Medvedev's predecessor and mentor, Vladimir Putin, who is widely believed to be continuing to call the shots as Russia's prime minister, also praised Obama's decision but challenged the U.S. to do more by canceling Cold War-era restrictions on trade with Russia and facilitating Moscow's entry into the World Trade Organization.

It has remained unclear what behind-the-scenes talks went on between Moscow and Washington before Obama's announcement. Russian officials said they had made no concessions in return.

Medvedev foreign policy adviser Sergei Prikhodko said Friday the move would require the Kremlin to "attentively consider new possibilities opening up for cooperation and interaction," but gave no indication what compromises Moscow could make.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/russia-missiles.htm?csp=24&RM_Exclude=Juno

A hand for Obama on this ... :hand:

I'll second that. :hand:
 
"criticism of the decision as weakness and appeasement of Iran and Russia is predictable but without merit. Mobile anti-missile systems are credible. North Korea, unlike Iran, has actually carried out primitive nuclear explosions. Last July, as Pyongyang rattled rockets yet again, Gates ordered deployment of a Lockheed Martin THAAD (Terminal High Altitude Air Defense) anti-missile system to protect Hawaii, a publicized possible target.

We have a vital interest in cooperation with Russia, where anxiety concerning potential military threats from Europe is strongly rooted in history."

http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/47003
 
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Oh yeah fer sure, I'll believe everything that Russia says, no problemo

I know I now feel MUCH safer with this President in charge..:rolleyes:

we all might want to start hoping and praying..

I guess you think he did it because it felt right, instead of relying on the advice of his intelligence experts. :rolleyes:

"Gates said the decision to abandon the Bush administration's plans came about because of a change in the U.S. perception of the threat posed by Iran. U.S. intelligence decided short- and medium-range missiles from Iran now pose a greater near-term threat than the intercontinental ballistic missiles the Bush plan addressed, he said."

http://news.aol.com/article/us-scraps-plan-for-missile-shield-for/673866
 

I suppose I should be more sympathetic. Just a few words from the White House and there goes jobs and investments in the war machine.

Cut back on cruises. A few thousand square feet chopped off building plans for a house.

I guess we all have our burdens to bear.
 
There's plenty of work to do on our infrastructure, and that will take a lot of work. It's the concept of creating/maintaining rather than destroying that will require a paradigm shift.
 
Bear with me here as i have taken a few cold drinks this evening and am currently awaiting the Mayweather v. Marquez fight.

Let's get this straight shall we?

The Poles (and the Czechs) are slightly miffed that they are not going to be host to 10 interceptor missiles, which would have prevented their former occupier, Russia (nee the USSR) from recommencing ownership?

Do any of you know exactly how many intercontinental ballistic missiles Russia owns? If you don't, let me tell you it is a somewhat larger number than could have been dealt with by 10 interceptor missiles stationed in Poland (or even the other 10 stationed in the Czech Republic).

Now, perhaps we can now come back to reality?

Any Star Wars type system would be ineffective against a mass Russian nuclear launch. Luckily, the Russians will adopt the position they have maintained since the inception of the nuclear bomb - i.e. they have identified that the negatives of a nuclear holocaust slightly outweigh the positives.

We can all sleep safely in our beds despite this latest Obama decision.
 
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Bear with me here as i have taken a few cold drinks this evening and am currently awaiting the Mayweather v. Marquez fight.

Let's get this straight shall we?

The Poles (and the Czechs) are slightly miffed that they are not going to be host to 10 interceptor missiles, which would have prevented their former occupier, Russia (nee the USSR) from recommencing ownership?

Do any of you know exactly how many intercontinental ballistic missiles Russia owns? If you don't, let me tell you it is a somewhat larger number than could have been dealt with by 10 interceptor missiles stationed in Poland (or even the other 10 stationed in the Czech Republic).

Now, perhaps we can now come back to reality?

Any Star Wars type system would be ineffective against a mass Russian nuclear launch. Luckily, the Russians will adopt the position they have maintained since the inception of the nuclear bomb - i.e. they have identified that the negatives of a nuclear holocaust slightly outweigh the positives.

We can all sleep safely in our beds despite this latest Obama decision.


and what if you're wrong?
 
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