First France, now Germany, next the US

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German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she’ll press ahead with tax cuts and labor-market deregulation after winning re-election with enough support to govern with the pro-business Free Democrats.

With Germany struggling to recover from the deepest economic slump since World War II, voters spurned plans by Merkel’s Social Democratic challenger to raise taxes on top earners. Frank-Walter Steinmeier’s SPD had its worst postwar result in what he called a “bitter day” after sharing power with Merkel for four years and governing for the previous seven.

“There’s a clear sentiment in favor of economic changes, especially on income taxes,” Tilman Mayer, head of the Bonn- based Institute for Political Science, said in an interview. “Voters have turned their back on grand coalition-style compromise politics.”
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a6XjO.79Q8nc

The pendulum is swing back right. :)
 
What happened in Germany is that the main center-right party essentially collapsed and lost 12 points. About 30% of that went to the Greens, 30% to the far left, and 40% to the right-liberal FDP. The CDP gained nothing.
 
Watermark said:
Sarkovsky won in France before Obama won in the US. And Merkel is probably more left-wing than Obama.
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German Chancellor Angela Merkel won the center-right majority yesterday that eluded her four years ago -- nudging Europe's biggest economic power to the right as it claws its way out of a deep recession.

Voters sent the main left-wing party, the Social Democrats of Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, into opposition after 11 years as part of the government. It was the party's worst parliamentary election result since World War II.

"There is no talking around it: this is a bitter defeat," a subdued Steinmeier said, vowing to lead a strong opposition.

The conservative Merkel managed to end her four-year "grand coalition" with the Social Democrats thanks to a very strong showing by her new coalition partner, the pro-business Free Democrats. Her own Christian Democrats produced an underwhelming showing.

"Tonight we can really celebrate," said a beaming Merkel, greeted by chants of "Angie! Angie!" from supporters. "(But) there are many problems in our country to be solved."

Projections by the nation's public broadcasters, based on partial vote counts, put support for Merkel's Christian Democrats at up to 33.8 percent of the vote and for the Social Democrats at about 23 percent. The Free Democrats captured nearly 15 percent, the Left Party had 12 percent or more and the Greens above 10 percent.
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Germany is now officially conservative, like France.
 
Southern Man said:
Germany is now officially conservative, like France.
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Did you hear Sarkovsky's statement the other day that he was pushing to implement some of the harshest carbon taxes in the world?

And the US can't even pass cap and trade. If those guys are conservatives to you, I wish you'd do a lot more to try and imitate them.
 
Watermark said:
Did you hear Sarkovsky's statement the other day that he was pushing to implement some of the harshest carbon taxes in the world?

And the US can't even pass cap and trade. If those guys are conservatives to you, I wish you'd do a lot more to try and imitate them.
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He's listening to Fox .. doesn't know anything about Sarkovsky or Merkel.

He is also unaware that Guido Westerwelle, the first openly gay leader of a German mainstream party, is almost certain to become the next foreign minister when the FDP enters government.
 
Unlike liberals, conservatives are thinking folks and therefore individuals in thought and function. More folks are agreeing with us and joining our movement.
 
you hate French unless they don't like a tax.
Southerntool your as comical as any.
Obama has stolen the tax cut card from Bush, he's giving 95% a cut. You are most certainly not in the top 5% so stfu.
 
Southern Man said:
Unlike liberals, conservatives are thinking folks and therefore individuals in thought and function. More folks are agreeing with us and joining our movement.
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The US election of Obama and the French election of Sarkovsky brings us a lot closer together than if we had elected the Republicans. Sarkovsky and Merkel are still to the left of Obama on many issues.
 
Buffalo Soldier said:
you hate French unless they don't like a tax.
Southerntool your as comical as any.
Obama has stolen the tax cut card from Bush, he's giving 95% a cut. You are most certainly not in the top 5% so stfu.
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I like the French after they voted for Sarkosy.

It looks like I am in the top 5%. Sorry. :)

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Watermark said:
And Sarkovsky actually comes from the same party that elected Chirac.
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By French standards, even Chirac was considered centre-right.

I've done a bit of research on Merkel, though, and she seems pretty legit as far as conservatism is concerned. I think she'll do a lot of good for Germany. Whether you want to admit it or not, the European social welfare state is on the decline because Europeans are rejecting it. The UK is next. Hell, Gordon Brown's approval rating makes George W. Bush look like a celebrity.
 
uscitizen said:
Does SM actually think French and German conservatives are like American Bushite conservitives?
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No doubt. John Kerry would be considered a "conservative" by western european standards.

Which leaves us to conclude that SM is now either fan of John Kerry's ideology.

Or, SM is one stupid motherfucker who's never been outside the US, and who's knowledge of the world is about the same as a 5 year old's.
 
Tabasco said:
By French standards, even Chirac was considered centre-right.

I've done a bit of research on Merkel, though, and she seems pretty legit as far as conservatism is concerned. I think she'll do a lot of good for Germany. Whether you want to admit it or not, the European social welfare state is on the decline because Europeans are rejecting it. The UK is next. Hell, Gordon Brown's approval rating makes George W. Bush look like a celebrity.
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watermark will now just call you a stupid conservative who deserves to be excuted and your head put on a pike
 
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this is for uscitizen, just the other day you were arguing that 'conservatives' in 1776 were the same as 'conservatives' today based on the dictionary definition of the term. Wouldn't then by that same definition 'conservatives' in America be the same as 'conservatives' in Europe?
 
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