Who believes that we are headed for an armed revolt in this country?

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I've been hearing that one for about 30 years....if we keep going in the direction we are currently in, eventually someone will get the date right.

But all know that the two yahoos that showed up strapped at town hall addresses on healthcare are hoping for something to give.

... And here we go. Now you're more reasonable than WM so I'll assume you don't mean every person who exercises their right to carry is a crazy right?

Yeah, here we indeed go again....because if you brandish a gun at a Presidential townhall meeting about healthcare, you damn sure do it to intimidate people, BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE IS CARRYING ONE OR BRANDISHING IT to talk about healthcare. Comprende? So trying to create an issue about the right to carry in that state when there wasn't one is just BS.

There was a video on the 9/12 Teabagger gathering in Washington....you could see signs threatening violence (who, Obama? People who don't think like them?)if they don't get their way. Pity the dumb bunnies didn't know exactly what they were pissed about.

And since you've got Blackwater (under another name now) STILL running around doing security inside the USA....yeah, maybe this time folks will get their doomsday wish.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I heard similar declarations from folks who called themselves "survivalists" back in the day. Originally, survivalist were predicting the collapse of the social structure in America...and had written guide books on how to read the "signs", where to set up their "redoubts", how to stock up on supplies and ammunition, etc. Some even just dropped out of their jobs, uprooted and relocated to varies mountain and wilderness areas, or set up "communes" (a communist derivative?) to be their own society. Some small towns declared that they did not recognize the federal gov't, and that their local sheriff was their highest law officer.

That was about 25 years ago....if all these guys held true to their beliefs, then they are now middle aged or senior citizens. Oh well, maybe with luck, they'll live to see the catastrophe they so dearly hoped for.

Now some of that is pretty extreme, but there's nothing wrong with stocking up on supplies for a disaster is there?

Nope...but if you're a bunch of clowns who declare their pseudo-independence from the rest of the country....I'd be a little leary to drive through that part of the country, because I might accidently cross into their territory.

Hell, let'em stock and stay in the hills....kept them away from me for about 25years.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Yeah, here we indeed go again....because if you brandish a gun at a Presidential townhall meeting about healthcare, you damn sure do it to intimidate people, BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE IS CARRYING ONE OR BRANDISHING IT to talk about healthcare. Comprende? So trying to create an issue about the right to carry in that state when there wasn't one is just BS.

Yeah he might have chosen a bad time to open carry a rifle instead of a pistol as is the more common practice. But it was still his right to do so and did nothing wrong, so I don't see the big deal about it.

There was a video on the 9/12 Teabagger gathering in Washington....you could see signs threatening violence (who, Obama? People who don't think like them?)if they don't get their way. Pity the dumb bunnies didn't know exactly what they were pissed about.

I didn't see the video so a link would be nice.

And since you've got Blackwater (under another name now) STILL running around doing security inside the USA....yeah, maybe this time folks will get their doomsday wish.

What does Blackwater have to do with anything?

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

It is no one's right to own a gun. People have a natural right to live in a gun-ban society, and you are violating that right by owning a gun.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Yeah he might have chosen a bad time to open carry a rifle instead of a pistol as is the more common practice. But it was still his right to do so and did nothing wrong, so I don't see the big deal about it.

Oh give me a fucking break with this "innocent" and "naive" act. Both those assholes were damned well aware of what they were doing and why they were doing it. It wasn't about the right, because the states that they pulled their stunts ALREADY GUARANTEED THAT RIGHT....AND NO ONE ELSE WHO COULD HAVE COME STRAPPED DIDN'T. Healthcare has NOTHING to do with gunners and their paranoia....those two clowns wanted to intimidate people into clouding the issues of the day. However, the publicity they got just showed them for the little fools that they are.

I didn't see the video so a link would be nice.


http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showpost.php?p=520558&postcount=1

What does Blackwater have to do with anything?

Blackwater is a private security firm that was used to police New Orleans during Katrina. They did this because the National Guard was stretched....a good portion of them doing the Shrub's PNAC wet dream work in Iraq. Check into reports of abuses done by them, and how the neocon driven GOP tried to pass legislation that shielded them from prosecution while under gov't contract. Throw that into the mix of "potential" armed revolt in this country....because no one is asking exactly "who" will be revolting against what.

 

[WinterBorn]

Blackwater is a private security firm that was used to police New Orleans during Katrina. They did this because the National Guard was stretched....a good portion of them doing the Shrub's PNAC wet dream work in Iraq. Check into reports of abuses done by them, and how the neocon driven GOP tried to pass legislation that shielded them from prosecution while under gov't contract. Throw that into the mix of "potential" armed revolt in this country....because no one is asking exactly "who" will be revolting against what.

Blackwater is a mercenary company. They go where they are paid to go. I doubt this is an issue in a revolt. It won't be about hiring soldiers. It will be about fighting against a tyrannical gov't.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I've seen the military move tanks, heavy weapons, and large numbers of troops effortlessly through large urban environments.

/grins....parades don't count, BAC......

Those who would take up armed revolution do not live in major cities and are made up in large part by people who are racist and have no commonality with those who do live in the cities.

???....I would have thought the most likely source of an armed revolution would be IN the major cities....that's where all the "usurpers" are........

 

[DamnYankee]

Better dead than red.

One of my favorite sayings.

 

[WinterBorn]

One of my favorite sayings.

Smacks of McCarthyism, but whatever floats your boat.

 

[Damocles]

I hate to see you go.

But send me a private message with a link to where you are headed. I might try it too.

He posts in the Above Plain Politics forum.

 

[blackascoal]

/grins....parades don't count, BAC......


???....I would have thought the most likely source of an armed revolution would be IN the major cities....that's where all the "usurpers" are........

A. Not a parade
B. Surely that was satire. The usurpers will be the teabagger crowd .. white and rural. They dare not step into the cities with that bullshit.

Real easy to bomb farms.

See: Waco and Ruby Ridge .. to see where your movement is headed.

 

[blackascoal]

You must be watching a very different military then I served in. Yes I've been a part of those movements, but rarely are they effortless and always have not been combat related. Could they use such things in a urban area? Possibly but not with the ease that you claim and again the risk of collateral damage would be great.

Ok, perhaps I'm not explaining myself well. My own fault. When I talk about this revolution I'm talking about one that stands reasonable chance of success, and thus would require a certain amount of support from people in every area. I do however disagree with your assertion that many who would support said revolt are racist in nature, or that racists are primarily found outside of the city.

The problem with your scenario my good brother is that there will only be a certain sect of people who are going to participate in any armed revolution .. and those who reject that ideology will stand against them along with the military, police, and the government. Thus, you have a war of ideologues against the American government and the American people. In other words. an unwinnable and unintelligent war that will only hasten the demise of the ideologues.

There is no support for such action coming from anyone but the teabagger crowd. Non-whites and people with brains will not hold hands with racists against the government, nor should we ever hold hands with racists on anything.

If they start something .. they are on their own .. and like every patriotic American, I would do everything I could to destroy them .. those who would destroy this nation.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Real easy to bomb farms.

True but then where would we get our food? Or biofuels?

See: Waco and Ruby Ridge .. to see where your movement is headed.

As I'm sure you're aware many people see those events perfect examples of why we need a revolution. The Oklahoma City bombing for example was done as revenge for the actions at Waco. Not to mention the government could not afford 5 more Waco's let alone 50 or 100 that may happen if such a revolution transpired.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

The problem with your scenario my good brother is that there will only be a certain sect of people who are going to participate in any armed revolution .. and those who reject that ideology will stand against them along with the military, police, and the government. Thus, you have a war of ideologues against the American government and the American people. In other words. an unwinnable and unintelligent war that will only hasten the demise of the ideologues.

There is no support for such action coming from anyone but the teabagger crowd. Non-whites and people with brains will not hold hands with racists against the government, nor should we ever hold hands with racists on anything.

If they start something .. they are on their own .. and like every patriotic American, I would do everything I could to destroy them .. those who would destroy this nation.

Have you ever read the book Rebels? It's about the Irish rising in 1916 and mimics the current set of events greatly.

 

[apple0154]

I wouldn't join any revolution. If one is too old to rape and pillage what's the point?

 

[WinterBorn]

I wouldn't join any revolution. If one is too old to rape and pillage what's the point?

Free travel?

 

[blackascoal]

True but then where would we get our food? Or biofuels?

There will be no wholesale attack on farms or rural communities .. just an attack on home grown terrorists. An attack that every patriotic American should stand against with all measure. Terrorists who disguise themselves as "patriots" should be eliminated with all due force.

As I'm sure you're aware many people see those events perfect examples of why we need a revolution. The Oklahoma City bombing for example was done as revenge for the actions at Waco. Not to mention the government could not afford 5 more Waco's let alone 50 or 100 that may happen if such a revolution transpired.

My brother .. I find you to be an intelligent poster and one I could probably enjoy a beer with while we discuss the world.

Take a moment and don't turn your eyes from this picture .. PLEASE

THAT is McVeigh's "revenge"

Are we monsters?

How many more dead babies in the arms of heart-broken firemen do the monsters disguised as "patriots" plan on?

The government and the American people can afford any and every action it takes to destroy all the monsters like McVeigh. We can spend trillions chasing ghosts/terrorists outside of this country, but we can't afford to eliminate those within? Makes no sense.

If they come my way ....

 

[Topspin]

the couch revolutionary's don't stay up past 10.
It's a bunch of middle and upper midlle class whites with a shit load of guns and even more hot air.
They are all fat, dumb and happy.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

B. Surely that was satire. The usurpers will be the teabagger crowd .. white and rural. They dare not step into the cities with that bullshit.
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nope, not satire......where have we seen violence before when the populace is upset with the actions of the government?........the hills of Kentucky or Watts......the Oregon mountains or Los Angeles.......Iowa farmlands or Detroit?......who's going to be not first, but next, to take up arms against the government?.....Lawrence, Kansas?......Winter Haven, Florida?.......or New Orleans.......

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

There will be no wholesale attack on farms or rural communities .. just an attack on home grown terrorists. An attack that every patriotic American should stand against with all measure. Terrorists who disguise themselves as "patriots" should be eliminated with all due force.

I suppose it would be how one is defined as a terrorist, vs a patriot.

My brother .. I find you to be an intelligent poster and one I could probably enjoy a beer with while we discuss the world.

Take a moment and don't turn your eyes from this picture .. PLEASE

THAT is McVeigh's "revenge"

Are we monsters?

How many more dead babies in the arms of heart-broken firemen do the monsters disguised as "patriots" plan on?

The government and the American people can afford any and every action it takes to destroy all the monsters like McVeigh. We can spend trillions chasing ghosts/terrorists outside of this country, but we can't afford to eliminate those within? Makes no sense.

If they come my way ....

I in no way shape or form endorse the OC bombing and I'm sorry it appeared that way. I was only offering that it was an event that has it's history in that of Waco and was supposed to start the 'revolution' on a national scale. Obviously (and thankfully) it didn't happen. But it still shows that those events seem to be setting us on a path, which once started is difficult to stop. I, and anyone else with the capability to reason, hope that such a revolution would be peaceful. But I, and many like me, are prepared for a less favorable alternative.