ThatOwlWoman
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Oh do tell. What's up with that?
Florida book bans - the first step before burning
- Thread starter Dutch Uncle
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Oh do tell. What's up with that?
Dutch Uncle
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Agreed, but attacking teachers has been going on for at least 30 years. Attacking nurses is a new thing due to lies from the autocratic 45th President.
TOP
Retired Teacher
You're obviously not familiar with teaching profession..
But that's okay... you're not a teacher.... don't you worry teachers are going to be just fine and the kids are going to be the winners in the end...
You never want to be caught committing a crime, even if your boss tells you it is OK.
They do seem to be badly treated in general by conservatives, but I was thinking of this new anti-mask law that DiSantis is pushing. It would criminalize nurses for asking people to wear masks.
It just keeps getting worse. I wonder how much more we can take.
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Retired Teacher
No teacher is worried about getting caught committing a crime...especially when it comes to books on the shelf...
...You can relax... (ask your "licensed friends" to reassure you)...that is the very least of their worries... once again I taught for more than 30 years... I'm pretty sure I know how it works... Now... Back to Basics ...eventually schools are going to be whst they ate supposed to be again...... it's going to be wonderful...
Dutch Uncle
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ThatOwlWoman
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Of course not.
Depending on how onerous this new law in FL turns out to be, I have a feeling that teachers are going to rebel.
Saint Guinefort
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Now there I know you are wrong. Just knowing about a crime, and not reporting it, is a crime for a teacher. Teachers have gone to prison for being in a position they "should have" known about a crime, but did not. They did not commit a crime, but they are going to prison.
Real teachers are very worried about that. They document as much as possible, in hopes of using it in their defense. It is a real thing they have to think about.
Clearly not only have you never been a licensed teacher, but you have never met a licensed teacher. Teachers are in a constant worry about getting in trouble. In a way, it is understandable. We let them take care of our most prized thing in the world.
My kids are worth far more to me than my car, and I think that would go for most people. Now thing about valet parkers. If you told them to relax, no one ever crashes cars, and when they do crash cars, no one ever sues... You would be laughed at.
Doubt it. Everyone else I have known who has taught for 30 years tells me that they constantly have to worry about parents complaints, crimes, etc. You say it is an easy job with no worries.
Increasing the fear is not going to be wonderful. It is just going to mean fewer teachers.
ThatOwlWoman
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She doesn't and she wasn't.
Notice how poutraged she is about the teacher that Jarod mentioned at his kid's school. The teacher is not handing out banned books. She merely posted a list of books that have been banned at one time or another, called "Books the government doesn't want you to read." She offers extra credit points to any student who gets one, reads it, and writes about it. To Toxic the fake teacher, this is outrageous and that teacher should immediately be fired. She is an excellent Nazi. In 1933, she would have been gleefully tossing books into the bonfires.
ThatOwlWoman
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Seriously? WTF. Wearing a mask is a personal choice except in the health care setting where it is a necessity for the protection of both staff and other patients. Three years later we are still required to wear masks when going to our doc, the lab, or the hospital. COVID isn't the only pathogen out there. I'll have to read up on this latest bullshit. All the problems in the world and that's what DeSatan focuses on -- punishing health care providers and educators.
Found one article about that.
DeSantis wants ban on COVID mask and vaccine mandates to be permanent
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ThatOwlWoman
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Told you I heard the gurgling of the Seagrams going into the "gourmet" coffee earlier. 
Dutch Uncle
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Seagrams? A little pricey for her, isn't it?
ThatOwlWoman
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Esp. when it comes to child abuse/neglect, threats of suicide or homicide, etc. Those are absolutely serious issues. Now FL wants to put possession of contraband books on the same criminal level.
They absolutely do document everything possible, and always strive to have a paraprofessional or other witness when there are classroom issues such as discipline or a child getting injured. My youngest is an actual special ed teacher, my niece is an elementary teacher, and my son-in-law is a middle school math teacher. Sadly the classroom has become more of an adversarial arena than it is a learning environment. We can thank politicians and administrators who refuse to stand up for their educators, as well as parents like these MAGATs who (despite their own educational shortcomings) want to dictate what is taught and not taught.
You are absolutely correct.
This is a person who claimed to have worked in an urban school district, who has referred to the students there as "thugs." I'll leave it to you to decipher what that's a code word for.
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Retired Teacher
I don't know anyone who worries about that...... we're too busy.... I never said it was an easy job... and I never said they're no worries I said we don't worry about book crimes....lol.. there's no increase in the fear you mention.... and there will be far less to worry about in general once teachers are allowed to teach again... that's why we're there after all... keep that in mind and work with your children's teachers...you'll be very very happy with the way things turn out...
No one is being forced to do anything....and no good teacher is worried.... or offering extra credit to read books that are on the list of those not approved
There is nothing inappropriate about the books.
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Retired Teacher
Special Ed.... middle school and high school...