Mass shootings = symptoms of a much worse problem

BartenderElite said:
I hate how both sides react to these. The left is no doubt bad - it's all guns, all the time. But the right is no better. If it's a Muslim - time for a travel ban! If it's a transgender, it's all "see! We told you they were dangerous." Even though both groups account for less than 1% of American mass shootings.

The answer? We're sick as a nation. And this is a symptom. If we had a doctor for countries, we'd be admitted to the emergency room right away. This is like a Stage 4 kind of symptom. We've let things go. We've allowed divisiveness, hate & fear trump the better angels of our nature. We've allowed demagogues to rule the day, and we've let the internet run wild. And guns are PART of the problem, as well. There is no coincidence between the fact that we lead the world in gun ownership, and gun violence. Saying the answer is "more guns" is an incredible disconnect.

I have no answer, but I know where the answers lie: in honest discussion. Not "how can this help my side" knee-jerk reactions. We've gotta stop politicizing this stuff, and think through all aspects of it in an unbiased, critical way. We need real leaders, and not cartoon characters.

Lives depend on this. We have to step up. It is time.
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So you are also sick of people being called fascists for wanting a 15 week limit on abortion?

Or you aren't a nazi for wanting to know what books are in your kids schools?

The solution to the violence is to respect people with differing views, but I don't think the progressives can do that
 
The cliché from gun rights activists that a gun is merely a tool and it’s the person who wields it that’s the problem is inherently backward. Guns are weapons of destruction no matter who wields them. Their capacity to kill is not limited by identity or ideology. It’s therefore all but a fool’s errand to focus on individual mass shooters. In the end, it is only their ability to obtain these readily available instruments of death that unites them.
 
guno said:
The cliché from gun rights activists that a gun is merely a tool and it’s the person who wields it that’s the problem is inherently backward. Guns are weapons of destruction no matter who wields them. Their capacity to kill is not limited by identity or ideology. It’s therefore all but a fool’s errand to focus on individual mass shooters. In the end, it is only their ability to obtain these readily available instruments of death that unites them.
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A gun is merely a tool. A Democrat trans activist used a tool to murder Christian children. Islamic extremists used a tool to murder Christian children. Pretty soon that tool is going to be used by people to defend themselves from attacks by Democrats and other leftists.
 
guno said:
The cliché from gun rights activists that a gun is merely a tool and it’s the person who wields it that’s the problem is inherently backward. Guns are weapons of destruction no matter who wields them. Their capacity to kill is not limited by identity or ideology. It’s therefore all but a fool’s errand to focus on individual mass shooters. In the end, it is only their ability to obtain these readily available instruments of death that unites them.
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not a cliche, but if it makes you feel better. criminals will always find guns. it's unavoidable. the ONLY thing we can do is be prepared to shoot back.
 
Into the Night said:
A gun is merely a tool. A Democrat trans activist used a tool to murder Christian children. Islamic extremists used a tool to murder Christian children. Pretty soon that tool is going to be used by people to defend themselves from attacks by Democrats and other leftists.
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Isn't it amazing that leftists complain how they are compelled to violence by the words of others but their words NEVER compel others to violence. It's a one way street. Fascinating
 
martin said:
True. We have our own "continent of war", or more exactly a country created through war and following its completion a history of more war. But that's not point. The cultural foundation is mainly Western European. Our language, our primary religions, our institutions generally, including our universities, are inherited from Western Europe or founded on European models.
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Wrong. We are NOT a continent. We haven't had a war on the contiguous U.S. for over 150 years. Our main language is English, ... NOT a mixture of Euro languages. Unlike historic Europe, we have religious freedom. Schools are schools where ever you go. We dumped Euro monarchy and Euro slavery a long time ago.

Even the Euro countries have distinct cultures.

You are floundering and flopping.
 
domer76 said:
I’ll try this again with you.

In the United States, guns are the leading cause of death for our children.

It’s a disturbing and sobering fact, isn’t it? Why do you wish to diminish the tragedy of that with your diversionary questions?
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You dodge the question because you know democrats are the biggest child and baby killers.
 
Into the Night said:
https://notthebee.com/article/trans-activists-are-calling-for-more-blood-after-the-nashville-shooting-heres-how-christians-should-respond

War is starting. Democrats and leftists are starting it. As I've said. It's going to be a religious war.

Guess why the Democrats want to ban guns from conservatives?? They don't want to get shot at while they attack Christian churches and anybody else they don't like!
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you are a nut

you do not need to be religious to respect individual rights and the responsibilities that go with it.
 
Matt Dillon said:
The underlying problem is the denial of God, lack of discipline, and the leftist indoctrination system.

Turn back to God, discipline the children when young, and 99.9% of all that goes away! :awesome:
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Your God is looking at the likes of you and going...

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