Americans losing faith in elections process

It was honorable to refuse the pressure from Trump and (Goldman?) to refuse their plot knowing agreeing to do so would make him a hero among Trump supporters and doing the right thing would bring the wrath of Trump and MAGA people. He had reason to fear for his safety and refused to get in the car they sent for him.

I think Pence's actions and McCain's correction of the campaign supporter who claimed Obama was a Muslim are rare instances of politicians acting honorably.

Violating the Constitution is not the right thing.
MAGA isn't a person or a group.
 
Conservatives have gotten SO casual about lying when it comes to the 2020 election.

They either don't realize the damage they are doing to this precious republic - or they don't care.
 
Spot on. The waste of life and wealth is a sad thought, but at least we as Christians have faith that such events are happening according to an ultimately perfect plan of restoration. We "live our best life" in peace amongst the chaos, serving a divine purpose along the way.

...and the Greatest Commander of all.

Note how the enemy is already in the process of destroying themselves, no matter how big they talk.
 
He did not choose any electors. He counted the electors certified by the states and submitted to Congress.

12th Amendment: " The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed;"

He chose electors for States, dumbass. You cannot count votes of electors that were never legally chosen by the States.
 
They already are.

The people are finally beginning to notice the extent to which we have been betrayed, But the Revolution owns or has at least neutralized all American institutions of power....It is too late to do anything about it even if Americans were not cowards...and they generally are now.
 
Trying to be rational with an irrational person usually never changes anything.
Too bad there is no treatment for you condition, Dutch.
You are 100% correct; Pence did his duty.
Violating the Constitution is not his duty.
Trump is a traitor
No crime. No conviction. Mindless chanting.
who sought to overthrow the US government in a coup.
Inversion fallacy. You are describing Democrats. It was successful...for now.
Fuck him.
Personal opinion.
If there was justice in the world, Trump would be hung on the WH lawn.
War mongering.
 
The people are finally beginning to notice the extent to which we have been betrayed, But the Revolution owns or has at least neutralized all American institutions of power....It is too late to do anything about it even if Americans were not cowards...and they generally are now.

No. Americans are not cowards...quite the opposite. Remember the News Media doesn't tell you the truth.

The people of America far outnumber and outgun the entire federal government. They are winning in courts too. More conservative representatives ARE getting elected, despite what the Fake News tells you.

The Fat Lady hasn't sung yet. This show isn't over.
 
No. Americans are not cowards...quite the opposite. Remember the News Media doesn't tell you the truth.

The people of America far outnumber and outgun the entire federal government. They are winning in courts too. More conservative representatives ARE getting elected, despite what the Fake News tells you.

The Fat Lady hasn't sung yet. This show isn't over.

I get the idea that you dont know very much history, dont understand power, and dont understand how low quality the American people are now on the historical scale....literally driven into insanity by abusers.

I would like for you to be right, but the chances are very slim.
 
He did not choose any electors. He counted the electors certified by the states and submitted to Congress.

12th Amendment: " The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed;"

Flash, there are certain people on this forum who are not worth a response. Ever. Into the Night is one of those.
 
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