What is woke about the lil mermaid?

Nomad said:
SHITTER. :mun:
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Nomad said:
Practically all I watch anymore are those very same old shows you're talking about.

MeTV, GetTV, Grit, AntennaTV, etc, etc.

I can tell you that while some of what you're whining about might have some merit to a degree, it wasn't all the way you make it out to be.

There were quite a few tough, savvy women characters in TV shows and movies and fairly often.

Not many blacks, true. But given what a small percentage of the population they've traditionally constituted, you can't really blame the TV networks back then. They were a nascent industry beholden to the commercial product manufacturers who paid the bills and wanted their ads on shows that targeted those who constituted the largest percentage of viewers and had the most money to spend.

As much as you'd love to blame it on the evil racism of the evil white male TV execs, reality does not bear that out.

Plus, your woke narrative can just as easily be described as antisemitism, since most of the TV and movie industry was controlled by Jews.

So are you accusing Jews of being racist and misogynist? :thinking:

Are you saying they purposely stereotyped their own fellow Jews? :thinking:

Anyway, given how OVER represented blacks have become in the media today, I'd say they no longer have anything to complain and cry victim about.

You can stay stuck in the past or move forward.



No, what's IRKING (far from breaking) me, is your intellectual dishonesty about everything related to this topic.

Something I've seen before amongst the woke white crowd.

So shackled is your sense of superiority to how relentlessly you "defend" those helpless, downtrodden black people who just can't get a fair shake without mighty whities like YOU on their side.
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since most of the TV and movie industry was controlled by Jews.
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Yes, when we are born we Jews get a share in the entertainment industry to control it :palm:

That or banking :palm:
 
Trump claimed he declassified all the documents. That of course, is not true. He did not have that power when he was president and certainly did not have it when he was booted out of the Whitehouse. Rightys believe his lies because they want to. Barr was talking about his constant mishandling of classified documents. He said Trump was like a 9-year-old who shoves a glass across the table a little at a time until he pushes it off. The immaturity and egocentricity of Daffy Donald are a wonder to behold. To imagine a 77-year-old acts like a spoiled child is shocking. And you dumb-ass rightys voted for that mess and some of you will again. Except Trump will not be running. The other Repub candidates figured it out. That is why the Repub nomination dance card is so full.
 
Nomad said:
YOU remind ME of Trump. :)
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Why? You remind me of Trump because you are a bigot, whine about “woke”, seek to strip Americans of their rights, are overly emotional and not very bright.

Why I remind you of Trump? Please post as much detail as you are able to muster. TIA. :thup:
 
Nordberg said:
Trump claimed he declassified all the documents. That of course, is not true. He did not have that power when he was president and certainly did not have it when he was booted out of the Whitehouse. Rightys believe his lies because they want to. Barr was talking about his constant mishandling of classified documents. He said Trump was like a 9-year-old who shoves a glass across the table a little at a time until he pushes it off. The immaturity and egocentricity of Daffy Donald are a wonder to behold. To imagine a 77-year-old acts like a spoiled child is shocking. And you dumb-ass rightys voted for that mess and some of you will again. Except Trump will not be running. The other Repub candidates figured it out. That is why the Repub nomination dance card is so full.
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Even Brett Baier on Fox called out the ex-President on an interview tonight: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...t-Baier-spar-over-former-president%92s-claims
 
Doc Dutch said:
Why? You remind me of Trump because you are a bigot, whine about “woke”, seek to strip Americans of their rights, are overly emotional and not very bright.

Why I remind you of Trump? Please post as much detail as you are able to muster. TIA. :thup:
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You remind me of Trump because you're a dishonest, habitual liar, (see your above post), you accuse other people of doing exactly what you do (see your above post), you criticize people for having the same personal qualities, or lack thereof, as you (see your above post), you're overly obtuse and not very bright.

You're welcome. :fu:
 
Life is Golden said:
Day-um. You are running this thread. Good job so eloquently dismantling every single emotional meltdown on this thread. Boom.
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:palm: The amazing ability of the MAGA minion to revise reality and history...despite valid, documented facts and logic that contradicts them at every turn. What the objective reader sees here is a circle jerk by MAGA version of the 3 Stooges. Sad, but curiously entertaining.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Forget Gone With the Wind.
Forget The Godfather.
Forget Star Wars.

This film about the little fish broad must be the most important cinematic work of all time.
Mother of Fucking Christ!!!!!!!!!
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"Broad"?!??!

Jeez man, not only are you dating yourself but you letting your misogyny slip. I seriously doubt if you or your father would have like your mom or members of your family referred as such (don't lie and say otherwise).

What this thread revealed was; Disney did a little "stunt casting" to garner more asses in the seats from 24% of the population, and our resident MAGA/teabagger/neocon/alt-right wonks are having a hissy fit over such.

And so it goes.
 
Nomad said:
It's a known fact that, if not so much today, back in the early days of movies and TV, Jews held prominent positions in the industry.

https://jewishunpacked.com/how-american-jews-built-hollywood/

But I guess acknowledging that is now "racist".

Like everything else.
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From the link:

Instead, Jewish-Americans in the film industry were affected by other prejudices. Jewish studio owners were eager to assimilate as Americans, like many Jewish immigrants of their time. They sought to publicly embrace their American identity and leave Old World antisemitism behind, though the studio chairmen didn’t anglicize their names like some Jewish performers (Edward G. Robinson, Kirk Douglas, Lauren Bacall). In fact, studio executives’ Jewish last names were used as antisemitic dog whistles. Bigotry remained a persistent concern for the businessmen laboring to grow their production companies from tiny start-ups into the Hollywood studios still operating today.


The movies produced by the Hollywood studios downplayed cultural and religious differences, and instead projected inclusivity onto American screens. However, social barriers around race proved much harder for the movies to overcome. Hollywood movies created a new, homogenous, white American cultural identity that was so widely embraced by the moviegoing public, it became THE American identity. The movies offered a vision of the Great Melting Pot that American society was still striving to become. Jewish creators and businessmen seeking assimilation ultimately invented the culture that defined 20th Century America; ironically, leaving it up to later generations to make that culture more inclusive of other identities such as race, gender, and sexual orientation.

Eventually, the first generation of Jewish-American studio honchos retired or passed away. Their successors faced a changing industry. By the 1960s, Hollywood studios were making fewer, more expensive films, at greater financial risk. To hedge against these risks, the studio owners sold their companies to larger corporations. Kirk Kerkorian, a major investor in Las Vegas casinos, purchased controlling interest in MGM in 1969, and Paramount Pictures was sold in 1966 to the Gulf + Western Industries Corporation, a conglomerate that included manufacturers of auto parts, clothing, and mattresses. This shift from independent businesses to divisions of larger corporations proved permanent for the Hollywood studios.
 
Taichiliberal said:
From the link:

Instead, Jewish-Americans in the film industry were affected by other prejudices. Jewish studio owners were eager to assimilate as Americans, like many Jewish immigrants of their time. They sought to publicly embrace their American identity and leave Old World antisemitism behind, though the studio chairmen didn’t anglicize their names like some Jewish performers (Edward G. Robinson, Kirk Douglas, Lauren Bacall). In fact, studio executives’ Jewish last names were used as antisemitic dog whistles. Bigotry remained a persistent concern for the businessmen laboring to grow their production companies from tiny start-ups into the Hollywood studios still operating today.


The movies produced by the Hollywood studios downplayed cultural and religious differences, and instead projected inclusivity onto American screens. However, social barriers around race proved much harder for the movies to overcome. Hollywood movies created a new, homogenous, white American cultural identity that was so widely embraced by the moviegoing public, it became THE American identity. The movies offered a vision of the Great Melting Pot that American society was still striving to become. Jewish creators and businessmen seeking assimilation ultimately invented the culture that defined 20th Century America; ironically, leaving it up to later generations to make that culture more inclusive of other identities such as race, gender, and sexual orientation.

Eventually, the first generation of Jewish-American studio honchos retired or passed away. Their successors faced a changing industry. By the 1960s, Hollywood studios were making fewer, more expensive films, at greater financial risk. To hedge against these risks, the studio owners sold their companies to larger corporations. Kirk Kerkorian, a major investor in Las Vegas casinos, purchased controlling interest in MGM in 1969, and Paramount Pictures was sold in 1966 to the Gulf + Western Industries Corporation, a conglomerate that included manufacturers of auto parts, clothing, and mattresses. This shift from independent businesses to divisions of larger corporations proved permanent for the Hollywood studios.
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So, exactly what do you think any of that proves, or even has to do with the subject?

Your friend FatCowWoman implied that Jews were portrayed in Hollywood as negative stereotypes.

According to her, they "...talked with a Yiddish accent and reeked of matzo ball soup..." As she put it.

And you seem to be attempting to back up her insinuation that the Jewish studio heads were antisemitic racists who negatively stereotyped their own fellow Jews.

But, according to the passage you quoted from MY LINK.... "The movies produced by the Hollywood studios downplayed cultural and religious differences, and instead projected inclusivity onto American screens. Hollywood movies created a new, homogenous, white American cultural identity that was so widely embraced by the moviegoing public, it became THE American identity. The movies offered a vision of the Great Melting Pot that American society was still striving to become. Jewish creators and businessmen seeking assimilation ultimately invented the culture that defined 20th Century America; ironically, leaving it up to later generations to make that culture more inclusive of other identities such as race, gender, and sexual orientation."

So, which was it?

Were the Jewish studio heads the antisemitic racists you and FatCowWoman claim they were, or did they "project inclusivity onto American screens"... "create a new, homogenous, white American cultural identity that was so widely embraced by the moviegoing public, it became THE American identity" and "offer a vision of the Great Melting Pot that American society was still striving to become".... as the article I LINKED and YOU QUOTED claims?

I truly wish you'd get this whole business straightened out in whatever there is of that fried out hot mess you call a "mind".
 
Nomad said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
From the link:

Instead, Jewish-Americans in the film industry were affected by other prejudices. Jewish studio owners were eager to assimilate as Americans, like many Jewish immigrants of their time. They sought to publicly embrace their American identity and leave Old World antisemitism behind, though the studio chairmen didn’t anglicize their names like some Jewish performers (Edward G. Robinson, Kirk Douglas, Lauren Bacall). In fact, studio executives’ Jewish last names were used as antisemitic dog whistles. Bigotry remained a persistent concern for the businessmen laboring to grow their production companies from tiny start-ups into the Hollywood studios still operating today.


The movies produced by the Hollywood studios downplayed cultural and religious differences, and instead projected inclusivity onto American screens. However, social barriers around race proved much harder for the movies to overcome. Hollywood movies created a new, homogenous, white American cultural identity that was so widely embraced by the moviegoing public, it became THE American identity. The movies offered a vision of the Great Melting Pot that American society was still striving to become. Jewish creators and businessmen seeking assimilation ultimately invented the culture that defined 20th Century America; ironically, leaving it up to later generations to make that culture more inclusive of other identities such as race, gender, and sexual orientation.

Eventually, the first generation of Jewish-American studio honchos retired or passed away. Their successors faced a changing industry. By the 1960s, Hollywood studios were making fewer, more expensive films, at greater financial risk. To hedge against these risks, the studio owners sold their companies to larger corporations. Kirk Kerkorian, a major investor in Las Vegas casinos, purchased controlling interest in MGM in 1969, and Paramount Pictures was sold in 1966 to the Gulf + Western Industries Corporation, a conglomerate that included manufacturers of auto parts, clothing, and mattresses. This shift from independent businesses to divisions of larger corporations proved permanent for the Hollywood studios.
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So, exactly what do you think any of that proves, or even has to do with the subject?

Your friend FatCowWoman implied that Jews were portrayed in Hollywood as negative stereotypes.

According to her, they "...talked with a Yiddish accent and reeked of matzo ball soup..." As she put it.

And you seem to be attempting to back up her insinuation that the Jewish studio heads were antisemitic racists who negatively stereotyped their own fellow Jews.

But, according to the passage you quoted from MY LINK.... "The movies produced by the Hollywood studios downplayed cultural and religious differences, and instead projected inclusivity onto American screens. Hollywood movies created a new, homogenous, white American cultural identity that was so widely embraced by the moviegoing public, it became THE American identity. The movies offered a vision of the Great Melting Pot that American society was still striving to become. Jewish creators and businessmen seeking assimilation ultimately invented the culture that defined 20th Century America; ironically, leaving it up to later generations to make that culture more inclusive of other identities such as race, gender, and sexual orientation."

So, which was it?

Were the Jewish studio heads the antisemitic racists you and FatCowWoman claim they were, or did they "project inclusivity onto American screens"... "create a new, homogenous, white American cultural identity that was so widely embraced by the moviegoing public, it became THE American identity" and "offer a vision of the Great Melting Pot that American society was still striving to become".... as the article I LINKED and YOU QUOTED claims?

I truly wish you'd get this whole business straightened out in whatever there is of that fried out hot mess you call a "mind".
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Okay, you can't "smell" a movie, so the "reek" thing was a serious exaggeration.

However, all one has to do is look at all the b/w flicks from the WWII era and immediately after, where the vast majority of "jewish" characters are noticed by the yiddish accent or American version there of.

Now, what's amazing is your painfully transparent attempt to REVISE A PARAGRAPH from the very article you sourced in order to fit YOUR PERSONAL BIASED NARRATIVE! All the objective reader has to do is look at your paragraph, look at mine, then click the link to the original link to read the original to see that YOU are a piss poor, 3rd rate sheet wearing propagandist.

I mean, how fucking stupid are you to think you could lie in a printed medium that keeps records. It's called COMPREHENSIVE READING, YOU POINTY HOODED PALOOKA. That's why you edited the second paragraph and left out the first and last ones I posted....reading ALL the information contradicts your bigoted blather.

You're done, creep. And I'm done with you...I can easily debunk your brethren like Volsrock and his buddies without indulging yet another MAGA troll and his bigotry. So you can bray and fume all you want without further interest from me. Adios!
 
Taichiliberal said:
Okay, you can't "smell" a movie, so the "reek" thing was a serious exaggeration.

However, all one has to do is look at all the b/w flicks from the WWII era and immediately after, where the vast majority of "jewish" characters are noticed by the yiddish accent or American version there of.

Now, what's amazing is your painfully transparent attempt to REVISE A PARAGRAPH from the very article you sourced in order to fit YOUR PERSONAL BIASED NARRATIVE! All the objective reader has to do is look at your paragraph, look at mine, then click the link to the original link to read the original to see that YOU are a piss poor, 3rd rate sheet wearing propagandist.

I mean, how fucking stupid are you to think you could lie in a printed medium that keeps records. It's called COMPREHENSIVE READING, YOU POINTY HOODED PALOOKA. That's why you edited the second paragraph and left out the first and last ones I posted....reading ALL the information contradicts your bigoted blather.

You're done, creep. And I'm done with you...I can easily debunk your brethren like Volsrock and his buddies without indulging yet another MAGA troll and his bigotry. So you can bray and fume all you want without further interest from me. Adios!
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Wait a minute... portraying people who spoke with a particular accent as speaking with that accent...is somehow racist???

Was it racist to portray white New Yorkers as speaking with a Noo Yawk accent??

How about white southerners speaking with slow, Mississippi drawls? Was that racist?

How about white guys from Chicaaaago? Was it racist when they were portrayed as speaking like guys from Chicaaaago?

And BTW, regarding your unhinged rant, all I did was to repeat FatFoulWoman's own words. Then I copy/pasted words that you copy/pasted from a link I ORIGINALLY POSTED.... and now you're coming unglued and crapping in your tranny panties about it???

You are seriously disturbed, little gay girl.

Crawl back in your safe space and have a good old fashioned cry.
 
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