Americans losing faith in elections process

[Into the Night]

FWIW, he twisted the "pee pee tape". Trump didn't have Putin's hookers pee on him, he had them pee on the bed he fucked them in. The very same bed Obama and Michelle had slept in when they visited Russia.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-comey-hookers-golden-showers-622604
They describe videos taken of Trump in a Moscow hotel room in 2013 together with Russian prostitutes. And not just together with them but "employing a number of prostitutes to perform a 'golden showers' [urination] show in front of him," according to the memos.

And it didn't end there. The act occurred in the presidential suite of the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, where Trump was said to be aware that the president and first lady Michelle Obama had stayed on one of their official trips to Russia. The "[perverted] conduct" was said to be a deliberate act of "defiling" the bed on which the Obamas had slept.

Any prominent person who visits Russia and doesn't believe Putin will spy on them is a fucking moron.

Fiction.

 

[Into the Night]

And fascism. All forms of authoritarian government are a variation on despotism or monarchism.

Goverment is authority by nature, dumbass. It does NOT mean that government is a dictatorship.

 

[Into the Night]

Our elections are checked every time we have one. They are extremely safe and fair. Election fraud is extremely rare.

Blatant lie. Election fraud by Democrats has been going on for decades. It was bad enough in 2020 and again in 2022 to cause those elections to fault.

What has changed is some people with a lot of power want to create the idea that our elections are bad.

They are. The idea isn't 'created'.

They started this campaign a while ago, and Trump seized it as a talking point.

Blatant lie. Election fraud is caused by Democrats. You cannot just discard the evidence of election fraud by Democrats. It will not just disappear.

Once we have been deluded into thinking our elections are not fair, then all things evil are possible. We do not have a country anymore.

We do not have a federal government anymore. It has been converted into an oligarchy. There is no more United States. The coup by Democrats was successful...for now.

It is sad that rightys were so easy to fool.

No, you cannot make the evidence of election fraud by Democrats just disappear.

Trump demanded recounts and he was given more than anyone ever had.

Recounting the same fake ballots is pointless.

They all showed the elections were fair and honest.

Blatant lie. Recounting ballots shows no such thing. You cannot make the evidence of election fraud by Democrats just disappear.

Then he went to court over 60 times fighting the election and lost them all.

Blatant lie.

Trump proved we have fair and honest elections.

Blatant lie.

The problem is low information rightys falling down the hole of lies.

Evidence is not lies. It is evidence. You cannot just make it disappear.

I guess they have been convinced America as we know it has to end. What replaces it, who knows? I guarantee it will not be better for the people.

It is not better for the people. It is far worse. The federal government has been replaced by an oligarchy. Democrats do not recognize the Constitution of the United States or any State constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

Oh, and you act as if you don't know why?

Hilarious pontification thread!

The United States was never a democracy.
You cannot make the evidence of election fraud by Democrats just disappear.

 

[Into the Night]

I've never supported any voter suppression story. You are making unfounded assumptions.

Blatant lie. You have supported exactly that. You have no problem with the election faults of 2020 and 2022.

 

[Into the Night]

First off, get your terminology right....if you're a fascist, you're not "left" or liberal. See WW2 Italy under Mussolini.

Secondly, here's JUST one example of right wing voter suppression:

Historic Win: U.S. Supreme Court Rules Alabama’s Congressional Map Violates the Voting Rights Act by Diluting Black Political Power

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases...-rights-act-by-diluting-black-political-power

Mussolini was a socialist...like Democrats.
The Supreme Court ruling is not 'right wing'.

 

[Flash]

So what is an acceptable news source to you, Flash?

Most major city newspapers, Hearst, AP. Just not any of the partisan sources. A newspaper can have a liberal or conservative editorial policy, but contain objective news. Most who are critical of these sources don't really read them. There is a difference between claiming there was collusion in 2016 and reporting on that topic.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Ohhh, big lie time - how fun.

Say sploogy, prior to forming Il Fascisti, Benito Mussolini was the leader of what?

1. The Reelect Donald Trump party
2. The Republican Party
3. The Italian Bolshevik party

Mussolini took orders directly from what foreign leader?

1. Donald Trump
2. Ronald Reagan
3. Vladimir Lenin

Which slogan was coined by Mussolini>

1. Make America Great Again
2. It's morning in America
3. The State is supreme above all else, the individual is irrelevant

I love it when you fascists start lying - it's just hilarious - the ignorance and dishonesty mixing together like that..



Jerrymandering isn't voter suppression.

Try again, but don't blatantly lie this time.

Were you drinking or smoking or popping when you wrote the above response?

I don't know what the hell "sploogy" is, but I assume that's what's between your ears, as you give NO DEFINITION OF FASCISM, much less how the "left" (i.e., liberal) is a fascist by nature. Instead you just babble your "questions" as if they prove something.

Hint: they don't, no matter what your MAGA minion pals tell you.

Here, let me educate you, as it will save time:

per the Encyclopedia Britannica:

fascism - a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government

per Oxford Languages:

liberal - a supporter of a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.

If you still don't understand, put on your socks & shoes, toddle down to your local high school and let a history teacher explain it to you.

And as for gerrymandering

manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class. - the Oxford Languages.

So your vote essentially does not count, whether falsely registered as a felon, or having the voting booths closed in your district, or having voting drop boxes removed from your district, etc. It all SUPPRESSES THE VOTING POWER OF THE TARGETED GROUP.

But do continue to try and split that hair, bunky. Quite entertaining to see how the MAGA mind works (or in this case, malfunctions). Carry on.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

The Supreme Court ruling is not 'right wing'.

It is if you are a radical Leftist...

 

[Dutch Uncle]

It is if you are a radical Leftist...

Have you written any articles about the radical Leftists plaguing America, Terry, or how best to neutralize them?

 

[Taichiliberal]

It is if you are a radical Leftist...

6 of the 9 judges that currently occupy the SCOTUS are conservatives appointed by Republican Presidents. In other words, the "right wing" rules if they all vote in lock step.

You might want to enlighten Squawkie (ITN) on that.

 

[Into the Night]

Most major city newspapers, Hearst, AP. Just not any of the partisan sources.

You just listed partisan sources and said they are not partisan sources. Another indication of how clueless you are.

A newspaper can have a liberal or conservative editorial policy, but contain objective news. Most who are critical of these sources don't really read them. There is a difference between claiming there was collusion in 2016 and reporting on that topic.

Propaganda isn't news, dummy.

 

[Into the Night]

Were you drinking or smoking or popping when you wrote the above response?

I don't know what the hell "sploogy" is, but I assume that's what's between your ears, as you give NO DEFINITION OF FASCISM, much less how the "left" (i.e., liberal) is a fascist by nature. Instead you just babble your "questions" as if they prove something.

RQAA. Fascism is government manipulation of markets. It is a form of socialism. It is theft of wealth. It is what the Democrats WANT.
Communism is government ownership of markets. It is also a form of socialism. It is theft of wealth. It is what the Democrats WANT.
Slavery ownership of people. It is also a form of socialism. It is theft of labor. It is what the Democrats WANT.

Hint: they don't, no matter what your MAGA minion pals tell you.

MAGA isn't a 'minion', or a person, or a group.

Here, let me educate you, as it will save time:

per the Encyclopedia Britannica:
...
per Oxford Languages:
...
If you still don't understand, put on your socks & shoes, toddle down to your local high school and let a history teacher explain it to you.

False authority fallacies. Neither the Brittanica, nor any dictionary, nor any encyclopedia defines any word.

But do continue to try and split that hair, bunky. Quite entertaining to see how the MAGA mind works (or in this case, malfunctions). Carry on.

MAGA isn't a 'mind' or 'malfunction'.
It is YOU trying to split hairs. It is YOU trying to redefine words and argue semantics.
Semantics fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

6 of the 9 judges that currently occupy the SCOTUS are conservatives appointed by Republican Presidents. In other words, the "right wing" rules if they all vote in lock step.

You might want to enlighten Squawkie (ITN) on that.

Irrelevant. The Supreme Court MUST conform to the Constitution of the United States in any ruling for that ruling to be legal.

 

[Bigdog]

Most major city newspapers, Hearst, AP. Just not any of the partisan sources. A newspaper can have a liberal or conservative editorial policy, but contain objective news. Most who are critical of these sources don't really read them. There is a difference between claiming there was collusion in 2016 and reporting on that topic.

Flash, you are splitting hairs.

Adam Schiff falsely claimed he had evidence of Russian Collusion. And given his position on the intelligence committee, even the AP reported it as truth.

Obama and the FBI both said there was Russian collusion when they made the PP tape claim public and the AP covered it.

 

[Flash]

Flash, you are splitting hairs.

Adam Schiff falsely claimed he had evidence of Russian Collusion. And given his position on the intelligence committee, even the AP reported it as truth.

Obama and the FBI both said there was Russian collusion when they made the PP tape claim public and the AP covered it.

They said there was Russian interference, not collusion. The Mueller investigation established the interference and indicted the Russians.

The press recently reported 17 tapes from a guy claiming he was involved in a bribery scheme with Biden. The press said Grassley (and others) made those claims. The press did not report it as true or false.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Apropos to Post #348

Mussolini considered himself "authoritarian communist"


Per Britannica dictionary:

Authoritarian - https://www.britannica.com/topic/authoritarianism


Communism - https://www.britannica.com/topic/communism

Mussolini cobbled together his own version of reality. This is why he allied with Hitler and had diplomatic relations with Stalin. All 3 had had this in common; a drive to usurp or remove the monarchial power structures in their respective countries. What they replaced them with was far, far worse. They also eventually demonized what would be considered "liberal" or "progressive" social politics, despite advocating such during their rise to power.


So to categorize America's liberal/progressive political movement on par with fascism is flatly erroneous, if not absurd.

But don't let that stop you from stubbornly repeating yourself. Carry on.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Apropos to Post #348

Mussolini considered himself "authoritarian communist"


Per Britannica dictionary:

Authoritarian - https://www.britannica.com/topic/authoritarianism


Communism - https://www.britannica.com/topic/communism

Mussolini cobbled together his own version of reality. This is why he allied with Hitler and had diplomatic relations with Stalin. All 3 had had this in common; a drive to usurp or remove the monarchial power structures in their respective countries. What they replaced them with was far, far worse. They also eventually demonized what would be considered "liberal" or "progressive" social politics, despite advocating such during their rise to power.


So to categorize America's liberal/progressive political movement on par with fascism is flatly erroneous, if not absurd.

But don't let that stop you from stubbornly repeating yourself. Carry on.

IIRC, Rush started that in the 1990s. Another reason to simply label it authoritarianism rather than fascism or communism since the Alt-Right has muddied up the waters for their low IQ, poorly educated fans.

Mussolini got the end he deserved: hanging upside down from a light post. This should happen to all dictators.

 

[Bigdog]

They said there was Russian interference, not collusion. The Mueller investigation established the interference and indicted the Russians.

The press recently reported 17 tapes from a guy claiming he was involved in a bribery scheme with Biden. The press said Grassley (and others) made those claims. The press did not report it as true or false.

The gov't paid millions to have Mueller investigate Russian COLLUSION and, IIRC, all he found was $100k worth of Russian internet ads.

Yes, 17 tapes in the hands of an oligarch. Not true or false, but they still reported it. This is kind of what I mean by you are splitting hairs at this point.

The fact is that the MSM flooded the airwaves with "Putin's puppet" or "Russian Collusion" almost daily, for years. Do you agree that is true?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The gov't paid millions to have Mueller investigate Russian COLLUSION and, IIRC, all he found was $100k worth of Russian internet ads.

Yes, 17 tapes in the hands of an oligarch. Not true or false, but they still reported it. This is kind of what I mean by you are splitting hairs at this point.

The fact is that the MSM flooded the airwaves with "Putin's puppet" daily, for years. Do you agree that is true?

Care to wager what the primary mission of the Mueller investigation was, Pup? 12B bet?

Do you have a link to "millions" and "$100k worth of Russian internet ads" or, as usual, did you just pull those numbers out of your ass?

You're free to run from my offer and questions. I'll be happy to use it as proof of your inability to do more than lie and pull shit out of your ass. LOL