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evince said:
It’s a fucking lie Dutch
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You and I are agreed the Clintons are "legal". I think they are unethical. You seem to disagree.

IMO, one reason we got Trump in 2016 is because the Democrats got Clinton in 1992. It was the camel's nose in the tent; once unethical politicians are allowed to slip by unquestioned, then it's a race to the bottom. Trump was the bottom....I hope.
 
Doc Dutch said:
You and I are agreed the Clintons are "legal". I think they are unethical. You seem to disagree.

IMO, one reason we got Trump in 2016 is because the Democrats got Clinton in 1992. It was the camel's nose in the tent; once unethical politicians are allowed to slip by unquestioned, then it's a race to the bottom. Trump was the bottom....I hope.
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I believe the facts



You believe 40 years of Republican lies from the very people who lied us to a war in Iraq



Why do you imbrace the lies of liars who have not one shred of proof?


It’s called brainwashing dutch
 
evince said:
I believe the facts

You believe 40 years of Republican lies from the very people who lied us to a war in Iraq

Why do you imbrace the lies of liars who have not one shred of proof?

It’s called brainwashing dutch
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Me too. I also understand ethics.

Agreed on GW doing to Iraq what Japan did to us on December 7th, 1941.

It's a matter of ethics, not law...and I'm not a lawyer anyway, evince.

Brainwashing doesn't work except in a controlled environment. That's why cults want their members to break contact with family and friends then keep them isolated to the group.
 
Doc Dutch said:
Me too. I also understand ethics.

Agreed on GW doing to Iraq what Japan did to us on December 7th, 1941.

It's a matter of ethics, not law...and I'm not a lawyer anyway, evince.

Brainwashing doesn't work except in a controlled environment. That's why cults want their members to break contact with family and friends then keep them isolated to the group.
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You have no proof she did unethical things


Just Republican propaganda you still cling to
 
evince said:
And crime free


Unlike the people you believe so you can call her names that don’t fit the facts
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Sort of. She clearly broke classified material protocols and got a pass, partly thanks to Loretta and Bill's tarmac tête-à-tête. Still, again, Hillary was smart. Bill not so much. LOL

Why are you running from the ethics questions, evince? It's not the first time I mentioned it and you avoided the subject by saying "It's legal".
 
Doc Dutch said:
Sort of. She clearly broke classified material protocols and got a pass, partly thanks to Loretta and Bill's tarmac tête-à-tête. Still, again, Hillary was smart. Bill not so much. LOL

Why are you running from the ethics questions, evince? It's not the first time I mentioned it and you avoided the subject by saying "It's legal".
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Just like the long list of republicans who used the new technology too


It was what Everyfuckingone was doing at that moment in time


Funny only Hilary was treated like shit for it
 
The tech was changing at a rapid rate dutch


It was determined she did NOTHING WRONG

YET HERE YOU ARE CLIMBING ON HER ASS



how many things did the republicans claim she did that turned out to be ass crack emissions?


Oh just everything they claimed


It was not illegal
 
evince said:
You have no proof she did unethical things


Just Republican propaganda you still cling to
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Seriously, evince? You think lying about "sniper fire" is ethical for a leader? It's one thing for Trumper idiots on JPP to brag about their "big house" and "trophy wife" but then they are not in a leadership position that, literally, can mean life or death for Americans.

I left the Republican Party after they pissed on their own "Growth & Opportunity Project" results. Why would I trust their propaganda, evince? Or are you just acting like the Trumpers who call me a liberal stooge and pro-China?
 
evince said:
Just like the long list of republicans who used the new technology too

It was what Everyfuckingone was doing at that moment in time

Funny only Hilary was treated like shit for it
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Soooo...according to you, Hillary was just as stupid and behind the times as your "long list of republicans". I disagree. I think she was smarter the well over half of them. She was very.....wait for it....progressive. :rofl2:

I have no idea what that means.

Well, Republicans hate liberals and women. Don't you agree?
 
Doc Dutch said:
Seriously, evince? You think lying about "sniper fire" is ethical for a leader? It's one thing for Trumper idiots on JPP to brag about their "big house" and "trophy wife" but then they are not in a leadership position that, literally, can mean life or death for Americans.

I left the Republican Party after they pissed on their own "Growth & Opportunity Project" results. Why would I trust their propaganda, evince? Or are you just acting like the Trumpers who call me a liberal stooge and pro-China?
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She did not lie

It was an emotional memory dude


It’s a HUMAN REACTION to danger


The melding of memories


Very fucking common


You turn into a pretzel when it comes to Hilary



You hate her because you hated her back then


The party and news station that hit you there has been proven to be a lying shit heap


Yet you cling to some of those lies


I won’t tolerate lies


I will always call anyone out who is clinging to lies


Get your head straight with reality
 
Misplaced Confidence And Memory Over Time

Often, it isn’t the memories themselves that hold them in your memory. After all, to the brain, one memory is generally as important as any other if there isn’t an emotional connection. However, your level of confidence in your recollection of the event may encourage the details to linger for years. Memories can shift over time, with the details often changing as the years pass and your brain makes space for other memories. For example, witnesses to a crime are often considered less reliable as the case progresses because time and retelling can distort the memories. You may feel misplaced confidence in your ability to remember the event clearly after some time, and your mind may invent details to fill the gaps in your memory.
 
evince said:
She did not lie
It was an emotional memory dude

It’s a HUMAN REACTION to danger
The melding of memories
Very fucking common

You turn into a pretzel when it comes to Hilary
You hate her because you hated her back then
The party and news station that hit you there has been proven to be a lying shit heap
Yet you cling to some of those lies


I won’t tolerate lies
I will always call anyone out who is clinging to lies
Get your head straight with reality
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Sooo...., in your opinion, a person who wants to become President of the United States, in charge of all our military and is the top authority for a nuclear strike, is allowed to have departures from reality?

A seasoned, well-trained person won't panic when a danger comes. Again, you are diminishing Hillary's experience and skills to protect her.
There's the moment and then there's the memory. I expect all people who are responsible for the lives of others to be as perfect as humanly possible. By your definition, she failed short of that ideal. I refuse to vote for just any common fucking moron to be President. I expect the best leader, not the best talker.

I didn't like what was, and is, happening in Washington post-Cold War. Trump is along the same evolutionary branch our nation took post-Cold War. It took 30 years, but the progression is there. Voters allowing themselves to vote for a scumbag because their agenda was "by any means possible".

Agreed on being intolerant of liars. Add hypocrites too. Don't give me the shit about "Well, that's the way it's always done". "With great power comes great responsibility". Do you believe that is true, evince?
 
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