T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
I do not support Joke Biden in the least!
As student scores plummet, teachers unions play politics and make them worse
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I do not support Joke Biden in the least!
WHOOSH!
I know the facts. The unions are all about the Democrat party and indoctrinating kids to be gay and Democrats
Typical Democrat lie. Why do teachers still complain about wages even with the unions. Unions are about the Democrat party and the party agenda which means indoctrination above all things so wages are not important to the unions
Guno צְבִי
We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
Just what I thought, no kids and a high school dropout
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
I've been perusing the posts.
So far, I'm still supporting the teachers' unions and voting for Biden.
By all means, continue the discussion, however.
Epiphanies happen, right?
So far, I'm still supporting the teachers' unions and voting for Biden.
By all means, continue the discussion, however.
Epiphanies happen, right?
I. never said that you did
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
The disgraceful state of our school system in entirely the fault of the Stalin-o-crats, and their agents the teachers, where getting money for the union and DNC have long been the main goals.
And now, as our students flounder with STEM as well as simple reading, slociaql sexual and racial indoctrination are what is being foisted on ouir children, against the wishes of their parents.
As student scores plummet, teachers unions play politics and make them worse
Opinion by Washington Examiner
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After another summer of radical activity from the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers, Congress should revoke the unique federal charter of the former, and federal agencies should ensure both groups comply fully with labor laws.
Both unions long ago abandoned their proper missions, namely ensuring reasonable working conditions for school staff. Both now are avatars of the extreme Left, focused less on educational attainment than on partisan political activism and radical social crusades.
Witness the major summer conferences of each organization this year. As highlighted in a new report by the Defense of Freedom Institute, the teachers unions keep pushing contentious racial and gender agendas, try to conceal what they are really doing, seek to block parental involvement in education, and push disciplinary laxity at the cost of classroom safety. The Aug. 16 report, called “Summer of Woke, the Sequel,” details a litany of the unions’ conference obsessions that militate against the interests and views of large majorities of parents. The NEA openly advocates violations of Titles VI and VII of the Civil Rights Act by advocating hiring preferences based on race and gender while literally opposing “employment practices that treat people equally regardless of ethnicity or gender.”
This all comes at the expense of a focus on improving teaching, which should be the top priority after recent calamitous drops in national education scores. Consider a resolution on transgender issues that the AFT passed; it advocates “inclusive policies relating to … bathrooms and locker rooms.” It also commits the union and its teachers to work with activist groups that, among other things, demand that staff should avoid telling parents when calling students by “pronouns” that do not fit their biological sex.
The NEA this year released a “Pronoun Guide” listing the “most common pronouns the non-words “ze,” “zim,” “zir” “zirs,” and “zerself” in lieu of he, him, her, hers, and herself. This isn’t a joke. The unions want to fill children's heads with nonsense instead of teaching them English. One of the NEA's summer sessions, according to the think tank’s report, “argues that ‘cisnormativity,’ the assumption that people’s gender identity matches their biological sex, ‘can be limiting for [differently gendered people] … and cisgender folks alike.” Schoolchildren should be learning facts, the truth, what is what, at school. They should not be told a pack of ideological lies.
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Oh Grock you unmitigated troll. Every time I hear one of you right wing knuckleheads go on an anti-intellectual rant on education I just want to give every school teacher a base salary of $120,000/year just because they have to put up with your kids. How teachers put up with the political BS they have to put up with your kids BS at the same is beyond what should be expected from anyone. Screw that, they outright deserve hazardous duty pay.
I can tell you what I felt about my kids teachers. They were saints! All of them. For 8 glorious hours a day for years they pounded civilization into my brain damaged little brats heads. They converted my little monsters into civilized human beings.
I appreciate so highly how dedicated these professionals are and how difficult their job is and their low pay just shows how little we respect educators. I personally respect the hell out of them because I wouldn’t tolerate their conditions of employment. Putting up with you and your kids is a bridge too far for me. Let alone their restrictions on teaching, oversight, lack of professional independence and low pay.
We’re not going to improve educational system until professional educators are paid like professionals and are afforded the professional independence to do their job. Which includes decisions on disciplining your (or mine) little monster. They are not there to be our baby sitters.
Right now no one wants to be an educator because the pay sucks, the conditions of employment suck and your kids suck. Gee I get all that and half the pay I was offered for a corporate job. Yeah that’s how you motivate top talent to compete for your job offers.
Politics and Low pay makes it an unattractive career.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
A question: What's your position on school systems promoting racial and gender equality in hiring and retaining teachers?
That's because you're not in the classroom...I believe you know how I feel about the unions, particularly NEA....
One of the best parts of retirement was parting ways with the unions...We need new leadership and representation in our schools...desperately...
Where is the Union money going?https://www.illinoispolicy.org/nea-...epresenting-teachers-but-prioritize-politics/ You can find these figures everywhere...
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Well either way you go there they would need to hire a lot more men.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
Counting kindergarten, I was in seventeen years worth of classrooms.
More, actually.
I took adult classes as well during my working life, although I admittedly never earned a graduate degree.
I've also taught, by the way,
but unfortunately, from your perspective, TOP,
I was training union stewards.
In any case, we still have the huge problem of stupid people having stupid kids, don't we?
Counting kindergarten, I was in seventeen years worth of classrooms.
More, actually.
I took adult classes as well during my working life, although I admittedly never earned a graduate degree.
I've also taught, by the way,
but unfortunately, from your perspective, TOP,
I was training union stewards.
In any case, we still have the huge problem of stupid people having stupid kids, don't we?
I did forget that you said you taught Union stewards my apologies... not the same as being in a K through 12 classroom, however... and the answer to your last question is no... good thing teachers don't look at it that way right?
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
It certainly is, TOP. It certainly is.
I support teachers entirely and fully appreciate what they do.
If you've worked and lived in an organized labor environment, however,
you don't ever view unions as a third party.
To me, the teachers' unions ARE the teachers.
It's the organized labor mindset.
QP!
Verified User
Yup.
And it is not a genetic disadvantage the kids of stupid people have, generally. It is the indoctrination and very deliberate brain washing that is the challenge.
Just imagine if Ron DeSantis remakes Florida Education in the model of PragerU, who are advising him on his curriculum. PragerU is not a university and is one of the worst groups on the right very blatantly trying to rewrite all of history from a white supremacist view point.
Just imagine those kids from Florida arriving at any University outside Florida, or to their first job outside High school, and repeating the nonsense to other people and how embarrassed they would be at their stupidity.
this is how PragerU wants kids to view history
teachers unions are not the teachers however.... unless you are completely lock step with them...and as you might imagine so many are not..