Man forced to ditch $115K Ford EV truck during family road trip to Chicago

[Lionfish]

EV’s are less costly to maintain and repair because they are simpler in design and have fewer moving parts that wear out.

Now someone can purchase, or not, an EV for whatever reason they prefer but the silly political arguments about their value is just inane and willfully ignorant.

EV's currently have their place you prefer to own a government car. As battery technology gets better and we get a president and congress that is not a collection of sideshow variants, it will become more viable. Until then, it is a vehicle with its exhaust pipe in a different country.

 

[QP!]

You and your doppelganger Mr. Tiny Penis are of the same classic alt leftie spawn. You consider yourself to be all-knowing and never wrong. Please try and sound smarter.

Nah' I don't know it all.

I am just not stupid like you and the rest of the Trumpers.

Just look at this thread. I have to argue EV's have a place, while not perfect for all against people saying EV's have absolutely no place, and cannot compete in the market.


As always Trumpers take what could be a reasonable position to the extremes of stupidity and you jump in to defend them.

Why? Because you are stupid too.

 

[IBDaMann]

So anyone making this a political debate are morons with a capital M.

... *or* you are doubling down on making this political by trying to shame anyone who disagrees with you, which would warrant a big BidenPresident-type "Fuck You" (except without the uppercase letters because he doesn't know what those are).

So let's see which angle you are taking. Hmmmmm. Wait a minute! Look who's going full political:

... the best part of EV’s is that their total cost to own is significantly lower, over five years, is significantly lower than their internal combustion vehicles Tesla competes with. A Tesla 3 may have a higher cost to purchase as a similar sized car but over five years the total cost to purchase and own are significantly lower.

EVs cost more all around, so back up your statement ... or Fuck You, moron. Oh wait, you said that that is with a capital "M" so ... Fuck You, Moron. Stop making this so political.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

... Fuck You, moron. Oh wait, you said that that is with a capital "M" so ... Fuck You, Moron. Stop making this so political.

Bulverism. Bigotry.

Bulverism fallacy. Bigotry.

Bulverism. Bigotry. False Authority.

bigotry, bulverism,

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Electric cars are on the bleeding edge of technology!

Today they are just a novelty and luxury item for people who are financially comfortable and well off.

But, within a few short years they will be the mainstay for the average driver!

They will also meet their competition as the Blue Hydrogen vehicles come into the market in the next few years.

Gasoline vehicles will still be around for a long time, as just about every family will keep one just as an antique and hobby car or motorcycle.

Men have a fascination for gasoline powered vehicles and that is never going to fully go away!

They won't be driving them much though, as in about 10 years gasoline will cost over $10 a gallon!

Because all of the Oil companies see the writing on the wall, and are now slowing converting their gasoline manufacturing over to the manufacturing of Blue Hydrogen. It is not a political decision, it is just a business decision!

That is why I don't understand why people are fighting this or arguing about the world changing.

INSTEAD OF THAT, YOU SHOULD JUST BE READING THE AUTOMOBILE MAGAZINES AND KEEPING UP WITH WHAT THE OIL COMPANIES ARE DOING!

I mean for heaven sake! CHILL THE FUCK OUT!

 

[IBDaMann]

Electric cars are on the bleeding edge of technology!

Not even close. Electric cars are on the same level of technology as garbage disposals. You need to get out more. Do you think that electric motors are something new? Batteries?

But, within a few short years they will be the mainstay for the average driver!

Nope. They're too expensive all around, too limited and they are very fuel inefficient. The only way to make electric cars appear more competitive is to lie and pretend that electricity is free and readily available everywhere.

They will also meet their competition as the Blue Hydrogen vehicles come into the market in the next few years.

How well are you predicting the Blue Hydrogen vehicles will fare next year?

Gasoline vehicles will still be around for a long time, as just about every family will keep one just as an antique and hobby car or motorcycle.

You are out of touch. Gasoline vehicles will remain the mainstay and electric vehicles will remain the "golf cart" niche for local driving.

Men have a fascination for gasoline powered vehicles and that is never going to fully go away!

Nope. Men and women both love the acceleration of electric vehicles. That's not enough to justify the purchase, operational, maintenance and lifetime cost of an electric vehicle.

They won't be driving them much though, as in about 10 years gasoline will cost over $10 a gallon!

If that's the case, imagine how much electricity will cost!

Because all of the Oil companies see the writing on the wall, and are now slowing converting their gasoline manufacturing over to the manufacturing of Blue Hydrogen.

Adding a Blue Hydrogen model is not "converting" the combustion engine models.

That is why I don't understand why people are fighting this or arguing about the world changing.

What is difficult to understand is how you misunderstand what is being said, which must be an intentional self-delusion on your part. Internal combustion vehicles aren't going away and I can only guess that your Marxism-induced undereducation and your scientifically illiterate Climate Change worship are the cause of your egregious misconceptions. Electric vehicles have their uses and it's about time they have ascended a nudge above golf carts, but nobody is going to destroy their economy just so Marxists like you can claim to be defeating capitalism.

Hydrocarbons are the earth's best renewable energy source. We can use all we want; the earth will make more in massive quantities. Learn some chemistry INSTEAD OF READING AUTOMOBILE MAGAZINES.

I mean for heaven's sake, don't be a perpetual dumbass.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Not even close. Electric cars are on the same level of technology as garbage disposals. You need to get out more. Do you think that electric motors are something new? Batteries?


Nope. They're too expensive all around, too limited and they are very fuel inefficient. The only way to make electric cars appear more competitive is to lie and pretend that electricity is free and readily available everywhere.


How well are you predicting the Blue Hydrogen vehicles will fare next year?


You are out of touch. Gasoline vehicles will remain the mainstay and electric vehicles will remain the "golf cart" niche for local driving.


Nope. Men and women both love the acceleration of electric vehicles. That's not enough to justify the purchase, operational, maintenance and lifetime cost of an electric vehicle.


If that's the case, imagine how much electricity will cost!


Adding a Blue Hydrogen model is not "converting" the combustion engine models.


What is difficult to understand is how you misunderstand what is being said, which must be an intentional self-delusion on your part. Internal combustion vehicles aren't going away and I can only guess that your Marxism-induced undereducation and your scientifically illiterate Climate Change worship are the cause of your egregious misconceptions. Electric vehicles have their uses and it's about time they have ascended a nudge above golf carts, but nobody is going to destroy their economy just so Marxists like you can claim to be defeating capitalism.

Hydrocarbons are the earth's best renewable energy source. We can use all we want; the earth will make more in massive quantities. Learn some chemistry INSTEAD OF READING AUTOMOBILE MAGAZINES.

I mean for heaven's sake, don't be a perpetual dumbass.

You are insane!

 

[IBDaMann]

You are insane!

You are an uneducated moron. You got practically everything wrong, and it was all easy.

 

[anonymoose]

2022 Chevrolet Bolt EUV
Starting price: $27,495
EPA-estimated range: 247-259 miles

Nissan Leaf
Starting price: $29,135
EPA-estimated range: 149-212 miles

Mini Cooper SE Hardtop
Starting price: $31,895
EPA-estimated range: 114 miles

Hyundai Kona Electric
Starting price: $34,885
EPA-estimated range: 258 miles

Mazda MX-30
Starting price: $35,485
EPA-estimated range: 100 miles

Volkswagen ID.4
Starting price: $40,290
EPA-estimated range: 209-275 miles

Kia Nero EV
Starting price: $40,875
EPA-estimated range: 253 miles

Tesla Model 3
Starting price: $41,630
EPA-estimated range: 272-358 miles

Hyundai Ioniq 6
Starting price: $42,715
EPA-estimated range: 240-361 miles

Hyundai Ioniq 5
Starting price: ​​$42,785
EPA-estimated range: 220-303 miles

I rest my case.

Your case is that ev’s are only practical for commutes?

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

You are an uneducated moron. You got practically everything wrong, and it was all easy.

UBDaMoron! MORON!

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You are an uneducated moron. You got practically everything wrong, and it was all easy.

Bulverism. Bigotry.

Bulverism fallacy. Bigotry.

Bulverism. Bigotry. False Authority.

bigotry, bulverism,

 

[Lionfish]

Your case is that ev’s are only practical for commutes?

At this point in time that be a big yes.

 

[anonymoose]

At this point in time that be a big yes.

Agreed but I’m hoping Joe will respond. I have a couple of questions that I’m sure will be uncomfortable for him to answer

 

[Lionfish]

Agreed but I’m hoping Joe will respond. I have a couple of questions that I’m sure will be uncomfortable for him to answer

Joey wet panties made a purchase and his mission now is to convince himself it was the correct one. To meach his/her/alphabet's own, just don't try and convince us all that is is going to save the planet.

 

[Nordberg]

The vast majority of EV owners do not go back to ICEs. Evs have a range of 250 to 400 miles. If you are driving more than that every day, you need to move. Companies are switching to EVs because they are cheaper, more reliable and they save them money in operation and maintenance.

 

[Into the Night]

No, I have an electric car with a backup gasoline generator. Batteries drop below 40% and the gas motor starts recharging them.

Which is the same thing.

 

[Into the Night]

Good point.

I have solar, living in California. I rarely pay an electric bill. BUT the system cost me over $20,000. After all the rebates and credits. You still pay.

Solar panels only last for 10 years, but I have a 20 year warranty - so when they fail I will only pay the labor to replace them.

All those rebates and credits is just communism. Other people are paying for your solar panels.
The warranty does not cover damage to high winds, sandblasting, lightning, damage from nearby trees, etc. It only covers the panels themselves. Everything is lumped into those 'act of God' exceptions.
It also does not cover damage due to bullets or other vandalism, but homeowner's coverage tends to cover you there instead...unless civil war breaks out.

 

[Into the Night]

You did. You kept offering specific situations where EV's are not necessarily great, to suggest the technology is not any good.

But i am glad to see you run away from your position as it was stupid. You were being stupid.

The communism of rebates and the fascism of mandates is not any good.

 

[IBDaMann]

UBDaMoron! MORON!

I didn't get any of it wrong. You're the one that insists we need to be "KEEPING UP WITH WHAT THE OIL COMPANIES ARE DOING!" Would it really be that difficult to surmise that oil companies, sorry, OIL COMPANIES, are pulling hydrocarbons out of the ground? Would you please let me know when that somehow changes?

Your Marxist brilliance is on full display.

 

[Into the Night]

Hey stupid. That is generally how new technology works.

No, it isn't. TANSTAAFL.

Do you think we had the roads, and gas stations, etc that were needed to turn the automobile from a novelty item for a few, to something that would replace the horse and buggy when the auto technology was still new its development curve?

Yes. They were.
Gasoline engines were used long before they were put into cars. Roads already existed because of horse and carriage.

YOu are making the same stupid argument, i busted Terry over, that if everything does not exist prior to the new tech, then it should not be developed. That is just stupid and would stop almost every big now advancement man has made.


you need to try and be less stupid.

YOU are making the same stupid argument and ignoring the same history. Electric cars are NOT new technology. The latest gasoline engines ARE.