The Big Difference With Trump's Stolen Election

Nordberg said:
Trump proved the election was fair and honest. He made claims and they were all resolved. The Repub and Dem secretaries of states did what Trump asked. He was given more recounts than any candidate ever had. He went to court over 60 times and lost them all because he could show zero evidence that he won. It showed all thinking people that Trump lost a fair election. You would have to be stubbornly stupid not to get the message.
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Anybody who still thinks the 2020 election was fraudulent is comparable to those who think the Moon Landing was fake, 9/11 was an inside job or Climate Change isn't real.

Every one Trump's court cases lost.
AG Barr acknowledged the election was without fraud. So did Secretary of Homeland Security, FBI Director, majority of Congress, Supreme Court, majority of Americans, Trump's inner circle, Jared & Ivanka Trump, Trump's attorneys.

There's is no evidence that the 2020 election was fraudulent. None!

So, wouldn't it be fair to assume people who still believe otherwise are dealing with severe delusional disorders just like those who think the Moon Landing didn't happen, 9/11 was an inside job or Climate Change isn't real?

Delusional disorder is a type of psychotic disorder. A delusion is an unshakable belief in something that’s untrue. The belief isn’t a part of the person’s culture or subculture, and everyone else knows this belief to be false.

 
Grokmaster said:
What a fantasy.

Here's a pics of the losers (democrats) "moving on peacefully" following the 2016 election...in multiple cities:





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HOLY FUCK!!! AN INSURRECTION!!!!!

Etc..etc.

Makeup some more COMPLETE LIES.
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Which has what to do with Hillary Clinton, who conceded on national television the day after the election and never made a single attempt to reverse the election? Then, on Jan. 20, Obama welcomed Trump and his wife to The White House.
 
QP! said:
It is a dumb question that misses the point on numerous levels.

- yes she publicly conceded.
- a person merely believing and stating they won, as they concede is not an issue. People can believe and say what they want, even crazy stuff
- none of Gore, Hillary or Stacey held the power of the office they are seeking so there was no question of a Peaceful transfer to the 'winner'
- Trump was POTUS and when a current office denies a rightful result with lies that is challenging the peaceful transfer of power and is a problem for the Constitution.
- When Trump took actions to act upon the lies and to try and steal the election that is a problem for the courts.


So this issue is being treated like the 'why is Trump being charged for Gov't doc's when Pence and Biden are not' stupid derp arguments where they IGNORE the things Trump did different (lied under oath, obstructed Justice for docs, took action to steal election) are the reason in both cases he faces legal peril and others do not.
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No, she never publicly conceded that race.
 
martin said:
Richard Nixon, Al Gore and Hillary Clinton all believed they were cheated out of the Presidency. Their post election claims of fraud and other illegalities were similar to Trump's. But none argued the election wasn't over. Rather, for the good of the nation they publicly conceded. And the nation went peacefully forward.

Yesterday, while being led from the courtroom after receiving a ten year prison sentence, Proud Boy Dominic Pezzola shouted, "Trump won!" Trump lost, lost to a Constitutionally certified winner and Pezzola is paying for what he did in failing to recognize that difference.
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I think Hillary only made the case that more people voted for her than they did Trump. Which is true.

But Hillary knows how the Electoral College works, and didn't challenge the outcome. Her comments had to do with saying that the Popular Vote still means something to most Americans, and it should be respected, appreciated, and acknowledged as well.

When a president does not win the popular vote, they may not be America's best choice, certainly not the favorite choice, and a reason why some presidents never make it to a 2nd term such as Trump!
 
QP! said:
AN idiot is the person who thinks Trump can bring 60+ court cases, most in front of Trump judges, that fail and Trumps own lawyers go in to court stating 'we are not claiming any fraud took place'.

An idiot is the person who thinks Trump getting on the phone and speaking to AG's and Governors who VOTED FOR HIM and wanted him to win but say ,'we've done more recounts and verifications on this election then any other and you are just wrong, there is no fraud'.

An idiot is the person who does not see Trump has been calling wolf and fraud EACH AND EVERY time he, or a candidate he wanted to win, looked like they might lose...as it is simply his M.O..


To believe Trumps rigged claims is the the height of derp when you can absolutely predict it now for 2024. If Trump loses the GOP it will suddenly be rigged. If he loses the 2024 election it will be rigged. We can state Trump will say that with absolute certainty as he always does. EVERYTIME.
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Most we’re rejected on standing not on the merits of the case, idiot
 
ExpressLane said:
Sso 3 years later she was still claiming the election was stolen. Thanks for proving our point.
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No, dear. She said it for the first time in 2019 when it was an entirely academic question. Anyway, you still evade the point. She fucking conceded, which told the country to move on.

Another question raised by this harping on Hillary is how come you people find moral justification in what you think Hillary Clinton did?
 
ExpressLane said:
So you think a coup by a stolen election is in the best interest of the country? You are an idiot and no one should listen to you.
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You know what’s in the best interest of the country? Exactly what’s happening now.

Trump followers going to prison for sedition.
Trump followers going to prison for various other crimes related to 1/6.
Trump appointees, allies, lawyers being indicted for everything from fraud to RICO.
Trump himself under 4 separate indictments and dozens of counts from fraud to RICO.
Trump found liable for sexual abuse and defamation.

And the best is yet to come.
 
martin said:
Which has what to do with Hillary Clinton, who conceded on national television the day after the election and never made a single attempt to reverse the election? Then, on Jan. 20, Obama welcomed Trump and his wife to The White House.
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The entire RUSSIA LIES SEDITON was because of Hillary/Obama, in addition to the rioting in the streets.

What you called "moving on peacefully"

What rock were you under?
 
domer76 said:
You know what’s in the best interest of the country? Exactly what’s happening now.

Trump followers going to prison for sedition.
Trump followers going to prison for various other crimes related to 1/6.
Trump appointees, allies, lawyers being indicted for everything from fraud to RICO.
Trump himself under 4 separate indictments and dozens of counts from fraud to RICO.
Trump found liable for sexual abuse and defamation.

And the best is yet to come.
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Yes the impeachment of a bribe taking corrupt pResident Biden.
 
martin said:
No, dear. She said it for the first time in 2019 when it was an entirely academic question. Anyway, you still evade the point. She fucking conceded, which told the country to move on.

Another question raised by this harping on Hillary is how come you people find moral justification in what you think Hillary Clinton did?
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So sugar tits Hillary was trying to effect the 2020 election by lying about the 2016 election and YOU are OK with that.
 
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