If you lie to get a good loan!

fool.....if you lie to get a loan but the bank does its' own assessment and gives you a loan based on that instead of relying on the application there is no fraud......please tell me you went to class the day they taught that in law school......

You make the incorrect assumption that the sandwich boy is a lawyer. No working lawyer on earth has the time to pound the keyboard all day on forums creating troll posts.
 
do you think it's rare that values on loan documents are different than zillow ?

should A.I. be used to find all these crimes in data and prosecute everyone? if not, why not?

I do not believe zillow is a particularly valuable source for value for loan documents. This crime should be prosecuted when it comes to the attention of the authorities, like all crimes. Seeking out offenders is a matter of police priorities, not prosecutors.
 
So it isn't a lie. It may be a legitimate difference of opinion . In this case the bank and Trump reached the same opinion on the value of his real estate. So it wasn't even a difference of opinion. It's just like the NY AG was under the opinion that Mar A Lago is worth 18 million. I'll buy it right now today for that price. And I'll sell it tomorrow for much more than that price.

Do you think its a difference of opinion how many square feet Trumps condo is?

THe NY AG never once said that Mar-A-Lago was worth 18 million, that is simply a flat out LIE, by I suspect you know that and are not that dumb.
 
Usually in criminal cases it is the intent that matters, not the result. Murder is an exception, but all jurisdictions have a crime called "attempted murder".

Its still DUI if you get home without killing someone.

Intent in this case should be easy to prove. It's hard to "accidentally" sign fraudulent statements.
 
Do you think its a difference of opinion how many square feet Trumps condo is?

THe NY AG never once said that Mar-A-Lago was worth 18 million, that is simply a flat out LIE, by I suspect you know that and are not that dumb.
So the judge said it. Does that mean the judge lied?

Do you think Trump got a tape measure out and measured his condo? :rofl2: Seriously? :rofl2:
 
So the judge said it. Does that mean the judge lied?

Do you think Trump got a tape measure out and measured his condo? :rofl2: Seriously? :rofl2:

He did not, please show us a citation?

You are constantly exposed for lying... Why do you keep doing it?
 
YOU stop lying.

A Manhattan judge valued Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate at $18 million. The judge was deciding Trump's fate in a civil fraud trial. Real estate experts called the estimate "utterly delusional".

https://nypost.com/2023/10/02/judge-implores-media-to-stop-saying-he-valued-mar-a-lago-at-18m/

Uh, read your article, it does not say that.

It says the judge cited a tax appraiser assessment, which was in evidence, as a part of his reasoning, and that assessment valued the property between 18 - 27 million between 2011 - 2021.
The Judge never said it was worth 18 Million dollars.

Why do you people lie when you can clearly see the truth? Do you thing you are fooling anyone but the most stupid of people?


The Judge ALSO cited to a report saying the property was worth 300 Million.

At no point did the judge give a value, other than that claiming 1.5 BILLION was fraud.
 
So the bank committed fraud? Both Trump and the Bank's use certified appraisers. You aren't very good at business are you. :laugh:

The bank was the one lending the money, who were they trying to defraud?


"A Manhattan judge valued Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate at $18 million." LIAR!

Admit it or I am going to start a thread about your lies.
 
If you lie to the bank and still pay back the loan on time, you still committed fraud!!!

Trump got better terms due to his lies.

The bank got defrauded out of an interest rate and took a bigger risk than they expected.

So, you are saying the bank should get to make a bigger profit off of Trump than they did... Do you know how utterly idiotic and absurd that sounds?

It's like claiming you sold a car to someone and are no suing them because you feel you could have sold the car to them for more money...
 
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