DId the Maine shooter have the right to bear an AR-15?

[Matt Dillon]

It seems like there were so many warnings w/ this guy.

It's really a textbook case for where it's appropriate to limit the right to own a gun.

It's not the guns, it's the crazy people.

 

[Jarod]

the rights of the people (plural) are

the right of an Individual is obviously not

So, should people be allowed to own an ICBM?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Enlighten us on what the "clear bright line" is?

you've never been willing to accept it before, so why should I bother lecturing you again? you always resort to hyperbolic extremism to avoid acceptance of reality regarding the Constitution.

 

[Jarod]

It's not the guns, it's the crazy people.

Its the crazy people having easy access to weapons capable of mass killings.

 

[Jarod]

you've never been willing to accept it before, so why should I bother lecturing you again? you always resort to hyperbolic extremism to avoid acceptance of reality regarding the Constitution.

So you got nothing, Comprendo.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

So you got nothing, Comprendo.

 

[Jarod]

the right of the people plural shall not be abridged - yes

individuals can have rights restricted so long as we follow due process against said individual.

otherwise prisoners in jail would be packing

So its Constitutional for a judge to limit Trump's free speech after a due process hearing?

 

[domer76]

He had told people he was considering a mass shooting. The military division he was in knew of his mental problems. The police know of his issues....


Did he have an absolute right to bear arms?

Several of the barrel strokers on this forum will tell you ‘yes’. They will also tell you that all the deaths from those firearms are acceptable collateral damage in order to possess that right.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Several of the barrel strokers on this forum will tell you ‘yes’. They will also tell you that all the deaths from those firearms are acceptable collateral damage in order to possess that right.

liberty is more important than safety, so sayeth ben franklin

 

[Jarod]

Several of the barrel strokers on this forum will tell you ‘yes’. They will also tell you that all the deaths from those firearms are acceptable collateral damage in order to possess that right.

I know, I like to get them to show their colors every so often.

 

[domer76]

Prior to his doing what he did what did he do to justify suspending his right to own one?

All gun murderers were legal gun owners. Until they weren’t.

 

[Cypress]

He had told people he was considering a mass shooting. The military division he was in knew of his mental problems. The police know of his issues....


Did he have an absolute right to bear arms?

Why do mass shootings of this scale almost always involve semiautomatic assault rifles with high capacity ammunition mags, rather than shotguns, revolvers, bolt action hunting rifles?

A high capacity ammunition mag is a battlefield innovation, intended to inflict higher casually rates on the enemy. They have no legitimate civilian use.

 

[domer76]

it's mystifying how I have to keep lecturing you about absolute rights and how the 5th Amendment works in conjunction with absolute rights.........

It’s mystifying that you’ve been schooled time and again that there is no such thing as an absolute right.

Yet, you do believe “vehicles cannot be necessary” in a modern society, too. So, there’s that demonstration of your cognitive abilities.

 

[zymurgy]

So, should people be allowed to own an ICBM?

isn't a nation people?

 

[Jarod]

Why do mass shootings of this scale almost always involve semiautomatic assault rifles with high capacity ammunition mags, rather than shotguns, revolvers, bolt action hunting rifles?

A high capacity ammunition mag is a battlefield innovation, intended to inflict higher casually rates on the enemy. They have no legitimate civilian use.

So that the crazy person can kill a lot of people before he is apprehended or escapes.

 

[Jarod]

liberty is more important than safety, so sayeth ben franklin

I somewhat agree with Franklin, but there is a ballance.

 

[Jarod]

isn't a nation people?

I do not understand the relevance of your question, but a nation is not people, it is however made up of people.

 

[ExpressLane]

He had told people he was considering a mass shooting. The military division he was in knew of his mental problems. The police know of his issues....


Did he have an absolute right to bear arms?

People who are mentally ill can not legally own an AR15. This guy was hearing voices and Maine dropped the ball.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

It’s mystifying that you’ve been schooled time and again that there is no such thing as an absolute right.

false information is not being schooled.

Yet, you do believe “vehicles cannot be necessary” in a modern society, too. So, there’s that demonstration of your cognitive abilities.

and you've never answered the question 'is there a right to drive a vehicle'.............your lack of cognitive abilities has now been exposed...........again.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I somewhat agree with Franklin, but there is a ballance.

the founders did not believe in a balance. that is a doctrine created by a politically biased court. It's supposed to be a bias toward liberty