DId the Maine shooter have the right to bear an AR-15?

[Into the Night]

I do not know the legal rights of an individual in Mexico, I believe all people have some rights they are born with and governments should respect.

I am not a voter in Mexico and not part of their DEMOCRACY, so I do not have the power to have any say so.

Mexico is not a democracy.

 

[Into the Night]

So why do I not have a right to an ICBM? It has to do with safety of others, right?

You have the right to own an ICBM.

 

[Into the Night]

Wrong

Lie. Don't try to deny our own posts, dumbass. ANYONE can go back and read them!

 

[Into the Night]

So how do you suggest we change our Constitution? Who do you think should make these decisions?

RQAA

 

[Into the Night]

RIght but it took a while to kill 18 people with it. You are judging today based on historical standards.

You forget the bayonet that muskets had.

 

[Into the Night]

Can you bear an ICBM? They look like they are pretty heavy.

It is legal to own an ICBM.

 

[Into the Night]

Sure, all convicts in prison cells should have their own firearm.

Some DO have their own firearm.

 

[Into the Night]

Okay a RPGM.

What is an 'RPGM'?

Are you trying to refer to an rocket propelled grenade (RPG)?
Yes. It's legal to own them.

 

[Into the Night]

Good, so we agree the rights are not absolute, where do you draw the line, should unjailed homicidal maniacs be allowed AR-15's?

Yes.

 

[zymurgy]

Maine has no authority to change the Constitution of the United States by itself. Further, it is not possible to remove the right of self defense, no matter how tyrannical or oppressive a government gets. The right is absolute.

hey retard, how is it prisoners can't have weapons?

 

[zymurgy]

Some prisoners in jail ARE packing.

and people murder people

good point retard

 

[Into the Night]

Oh, its part of the United States, under our Federal Umbrella. Governed by the rights given to the Democratically elected representatives in the Federal Government under our Constitution.

You see the United States of Mexico is a Country, like the United States of America. Chiwawa is a State in Mexico, like Maine is a State in the United States. People of the United States of America (me) do not get to vote in the elections of Los Estados Unitos de Mexico.

The United States was never a democracy.
Mexico was never a democracy.
The State of Maine was never a democracy.

Democracies have no constitution and no representatives.

 

[Into the Night]

hey retard, how is it prisoners can't have weapons?

They can and do.

 

[zymurgy]

They can and do.

not legally

people kill others too, doesn't make it legal

anything else retardo?

 

[Bigdog]

Some DO have their own firearm.

Yep. Illegally. It's not a right when you are incarcerated.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

hey retard, how is it prisoners can't have weapons?

not speaking for INT, but prisoners have had due process of law, which allowed them to be incarcerated. There is, however, the caveat that most people choose to ignore because of 'criminals', but many court cases abound about the lack of legal responsibility to provide protection to an individual, absent a special relationship, i.e. in custody, so while prisoners can then be denied weapons for self defense, they are supposed to be provided protection for their lives by the government.

 

[Into the Night]

Milquetoast Macaw makes a point.

The above is indeed true
assuming a literal interpretation of our Constitution
and assuming consensus that the Constitution is the absolute ultimate authority.

It does not in any way alter the reality
that our Constitution blows chunks.

The Constitution is not a factor here. Rights do not come from the Constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

not legally

Irrelevant.

people kill others too, doesn't make it legal

Murder is not a right.

 

[Into the Night]

Yep. Illegally. It's not a right when you are incarcerated.

It is a right. No oppression can take away that right.
Whether it's 'legal' or not is irrelevant.

 

[Into the Night]

not speaking for INT, but prisoners have had due process of law, which allowed them to be incarcerated. There is, however, the caveat that most people choose to ignore because of 'criminals', but many court cases abound about the lack of legal responsibility to provide protection to an individual, absent a special relationship, i.e. in custody, so while prisoners can then be denied weapons for self defense, they are supposed to be provided protection for their lives by the government.

Turns out it's not really possible to deny prisoners weapons for self defense.
Practically ANYTHING can be used as a weapon.