Fascism or Democracy.

[ZenMode]

Trump tried to overthrow the government with violence. It is disgusting he is not in prison.

Interesting that you say "tried" because, when I said Biden TRIED to use the power of government to force 80 million people to get vaccinated, you lost your shit because he wasn't successful. Remember me saying "intentions matter" and then you getting mad and ignoring me?

Remember?

 

[Hume]

I can't think of any fascist things Trump has done. Maybe you can name them for us.

Trump sucker

 

[Hume]

Interesting that you say "tried" because, when I said Biden TRIED to use the power of government to force 80 million people to get vaccinated, you lost your shit because he wasn't successful. Remember me saying "intentions matter" and then you getting mad and ignoring me?

Remember?

Trump sucker

 

[Hume]

You didn't know they existed...

Nor do you. My god, you're slow.

 

[signalmankenneth]

The only decision facing our nation.

 

[Nordberg]

I can't think of any fascist things Trump has done. Maybe you can name them for us.

He put his family in positions they were not qualified for because he could control them. He put people on the federal courts and Supremes who would follow his rules. He pardoned a whole bunch of people who were complicit in his crimes. He is the first president to use the pardoning power to protect himself.
Trump refused to concede the election he lost. He tried to stay in office. He has said he will be a dictator. He has said he wants more than one more term.
Donnie Jr. saod Trump's first act will be to take over the FBI. He casually talks about using the justice department to punish those on his enemies list. Trump used the IRS to investigate people while he had power.
Trump does not respect the American system and will happily replace it with one that serves him.

 

[ZenMode]

He put his family in positions they were not qualified for because he could control them. He put people on the federal courts and Supremes who would follow his rules. He pardoned a whole bunch of people who were complicit in his crimes. He is the first president to use the pardoning power to protect himself.
Trump refused to concede the election he lost. He tried to stay in office. He has said he will be a dictator. He has said he wants more than one more term.
Donnie Jr. saod Trump's first act will be to take over the FBI. He casually talks about using the justice department to punish those on his enemies list. Trump used the IRS to investigate people while he had power.
Trump does not respect the American system and will happily replace it with one that serves him.

I don't really see nepotism as fascism. Yes they were unqualified in some cases, but does anyone really think that Pete buttigieg was qualified for his position? I certainly don't.

Trump can only nominate Supreme Court justices. He can't appoint them and he has absolutely no control over their decisions. The Supreme Court is a completely separate branch of government.

Every president that has pardon someone has pardoned a criminal.

Trump isn't the first person to not concede an election. I also don't see that as fascism.

Maybe you and I just have a different definition of fascism. Nothing you listed, to me, falls under The umbrella of fascism.

 

[Hume]

I don't really see nepotism as fascism. Yes they were unqualified in some cases, but does anyone really think that Pete buttigieg was qualified for his position? I certainly don't.

Trump can only nominate Supreme Court justices. He can't appoint them and he has absolutely no control over their decisions. The Supreme Court is a completely separate branch of government.

Every president that has pardon someone has pardoned a criminal.

Trump isn't the first person to not concede an election. I also don't see that as fascism.

Maybe you and I just have a different definition of fascism. Nothing you listed, to me, falls under The umbrella of fascism.

Well, like all Trump suckers you lie about the Capitol attack on Jan.6.

 

[ZenMode]

Well, like all Trump suckers you lie about the Capitol attack on Jan.6.

You made claims about Trump conspiring with groups and you haven't backed it up.

 

[Hume]

You made claims about Trump conspiring with groups and you haven't backed it up.

I did. You ignored it. Then repeated the same meaningless phrase that Trump has to say he is going to commit a crime in order for him to be guilty.

 

[ZenMode]

I did. You ignored it. Then repeated the same meaningless phrase that Trump has to say he is going to commit a crime in order for him to be guilty.

When did Trump tell these alleged groups to attack the capitol? What was the "go" command he gave?

 

[Hume]

When did Trump tell these alleged groups to attack the capitol? What was the "go" command he gave?

You're hilarious.

 

[ZenMode]

You're hilarious.

Let me know when you have an actual answer to support your claim.

 

[Hume]

Let me know when you have an actual answer.

Look, you're a lying Trump sucker. You say the same thing every other Trump supporter says.

 

[ZenMode]

Look, you're a lying Trump sucker. You say the same thing every other Trump supporter says.

Rather than focusing on me, prove me wrong and support your claim because LOTS of politicians use inflammatory language like fight, battle, war etc. Lots of politicians try to rally their constituents to confront what they view as issues. They'll say things like "We have to keep fighting!" or "We have to keep battling! This is a war for xxxxx".

 

[Hume]

Rather than focusing on me, prove me wrong and support your claim because LOTS of politicians use inflammatory language like fight, battle, war etc. Lots of politicians try to rally their constituents to confront what they view as issues. They'll say things like "We have to keep fighting!" or "We have to keep battling! This is a war for xxxxx".

As others have said, you're either very naive or a very bad liar.

 

[Nordberg]

I don't really see nepotism as fascism. Yes they were unqualified in some cases, but does anyone really think that Pete buttigieg was qualified for his position? I certainly don't.

Trump can only nominate Supreme Court justices. He can't appoint them and he has absolutely no control over their decisions. The Supreme Court is a completely separate branch of government.

Every president that has pardon someone has pardoned a criminal.

Trump isn't the first person to not concede an election. I also don't see that as fascism.

Maybe you and I just have a different definition of fascism. Nothing you listed, to me, falls under The umbrella of fascism.

Trump was following orders in his Supreme choices. The Federalist Society which has the same despotic goals as Trump vetted and groomed the choices for years. Trump has a crappy knowledge base so he takes his instructions from powerful billionaires in the background.
Nepotism is a sign of Fascism. It is how you keep control.
No president pardoned people who were involved in their campaign and admin for crimes they committed in concert with Donald.
Your view of not conceding is incorrect. That is exactly what a person who wants to stay in power would do. His organizing a rally/insurrection to stop the certification of electoral votes is also Fascistic. He was in the process of stealing back the presidency.
Trump uses violence to get his way, easily and casually.
You are wrong about Buttigeig too.

 

[ZenMode]

As others have said, you're either very naive or a very bad liar.

To people who are hyperpolitical and hyper bias, I often do sound naive

 

[Hume]

To people who are hyperpolitical and hyper bias, I often do sound naive

No, you sound like every other Trump supporter on this forum.

 

[ZenMode]

Trump was following orders in his Supreme choices. The Federalist Society which has the same despotic goals as Trump vetted and groomed the choices for years. Trump has a crappy knowledge base so he takes his instructions from powerful billionaires in the background.
Nepotism is a sign of Fascism. It is how you keep control.
No president pardoned people who were involved in their campaign and admin for crimes they committed in concert with Donald.
Your view of not conceding is incorrect. That is exactly what a person who wants to stay in power would do. His organizing a rally/insurrection to stop the certification of electoral votes is also Fascistic. He was in the process of stealing back the presidency.
Trump uses violence to get his way, easily and casually.
You are wrong about Buttigeig too.

I don't have a major issue with any of Trump's Supreme Court pics. Amy Coney Barrett is probably the best selection he made. Nepotism doesn't make a difference when the votes come in.

The votes came in, he was a sore loser as you would expect a petulant, narcissistic man-child to be. He left office when he was supposed to and Biden moved into the presidency.

If he wins again, which is looking more and more likely, he will also leave office when he is supposed to. He's not a dictator. He's not a king. If he absolutely lost his mind and decided he was going to refuse to leave, he would be removed by force.