Looks like another school shooting.....

IOW, NoNads has tipped his king... waved the white flag... thrown in the towel...
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Congratulations on wasting all that time, effort and keyboard pounding on a load of shit that I did not read beyond the first sentence.
Argument of the Stone fallacy. That's YOUR problem. Go learn English so you can learn to read.
Anyone with even the slightest iota of logical thinking ability understands that ANYTHING being present increases the chances that it will get used. And the more often something gets used, the more chances are that it will get misused.
Math error. Failure to declare boundary. Failure to declare randX.
If your juvenile excuse for a mind cannot grasp something as simple as that, you should be in a nursing home.

Or better yet, a nursery school.
....annnnnnd the usual insults. Lame.
 
Would the undead qualify as unserious?


I'm being serious.

JPP already has APP, it's very seldom utilized.

I believe that could be because it's perceived as too restrictive and moderation is always subjective.

And, it's free. In my experience, a lot of people tend to value what they pay for. If it's "free", not so much.

What I'm talking about is a "premium level" of access; it could be a sub-forum behind a paywall.

All forum content could remain visible (in read-only mode), but those who refuse to pay for the ability to comment at the subscriber level would not be able to do so.

I tend to think that would limit the shitposting. (Yes, I do it, too).

Naturally, if someone is willing to pay Damocles for the dubious privilege of engaging in endless grudge matches and off-topic nonsense, they could. But would they?

Of course, the general forum TOS (rules) would still apply.

I believe a lot less moderation would be demanded if commenting was limited to paid subscribers, because they'd lose their money and their access to commenting if they violated the TOS. Commenters would have "skin in the game".

I suspect the proportion of JPP's demographic willing to "put their money where their mouth is" might be very small.

I could be wrong. There's one way to find out.

Damocles already has a payment plan in place, it's just voluntary.

With a subscription-based commenting model, he'd just have to assign user permissions selectively. He already does that, just not on based on payment status.

Subscriber-only content is a huge segment of media.

If JPP offered that option, it would be a risk-free way to see if what works quite well all over the Internet would also work here.

Pay to play. You can look, but you can't touch, unless you pony up.

We'll see if he likes the idea enough to consider it, if he sees this. He may not want to.
 
I'm being serious.

JPP already has APP, it's very seldom utilized.

I believe that could be because it's perceived as too restrictive and moderation is always subjective.

And, it's free. In my experience, a lot of people tend to value what they pay for. If it's "free", not so much.

What I'm talking about is a "premium level" of access; it could be a sub-forum behind a paywall.

All forum content could remain visible (in read-only mode), but those who refuse to pay for the ability to comment at the subscriber level would not be able to do so.

I tend to think that would limit the shitposting. (Yes, I do it, too).

Naturally, if someone is willing to pay Damocles for the dubious privilege of engaging in endless grudge matches and off-topic nonsense, they could. But would they?

Of course, the general forum TOS (rules) would still apply.

I believe a lot less moderation would be demanded if commenting was limited to paid subscribers, because they'd lose their money and their access to commenting if they violated the TOS. Commenters would have "skin in the game".

I suspect the proportion of JPP's demographic willing to "put their money where their mouth is" might be very small.

I could be wrong. There's one way to find out.

Damocles already has a payment plan in place, it's just voluntary.

With a subscription-based commenting model, he'd just have to assign user permissions selectively. He already does that, just not on based on payment status.

Subscriber-only content is a huge segment of media.

If JPP offered that option, it would be a risk-free way to see if what works quite well all over the Internet would also work here.

Pay to play. You can look, but you can't touch, unless you pony up.

We'll see if he likes the idea enough to consider it, if he sees this. He may not want to.
is that why your mom demands I pay her?

woops.
 
I'm being serious.

JPP already has APP, it's very seldom utilized.

I believe that could be because it's perceived as too restrictive and moderation is always subjective.

And, it's free. In my experience, a lot of people tend to value what they pay for. If it's "free", not so much.

What I'm talking about is a "premium level" of access; it could be a sub-forum behind a paywall.

All forum content could remain visible (in read-only mode), but those who refuse to pay for the ability to comment at the subscriber level would not be able to do so.

I tend to think that would limit the shitposting. (Yes, I do it, too).

Naturally, if someone is willing to pay Damocles for the dubious privilege of engaging in endless grudge matches and off-topic nonsense, they could. But would they?

Of course, the general forum TOS (rules) would still apply.

I believe a lot less moderation would be demanded if commenting was limited to paid subscribers, because they'd lose their money and their access to commenting if they violated the TOS. Commenters would have "skin in the game".

I suspect the proportion of JPP's demographic willing to "put their money where their mouth is" might be very small.

I could be wrong. There's one way to find out.

Damocles already has a payment plan in place, it's just voluntary.

With a subscription-based commenting model, he'd just have to assign user permissions selectively. He already does that, just not on based on payment status.

Subscriber-only content is a huge segment of media.

If JPP offered that option, it would be a risk-free way to see if what works quite well all over the Internet would also work here.

Pay to play. You can look, but you can't touch, unless you pony up.

We'll see if he likes the idea enough to consider it, if he sees this. He may not want to.
bad idea.

php forums should always be free.

it will be bad and douchy if you make people pay.
 
bad idea.

php forums should always be free.

it will be bad and douchy if you make people pay.

So you say.

Take your concerns up here:

 
I'm being serious.
I know. I know. You crafted a new word "unserious" and it made wonder if it applied to the undead.

JPP already has APP, it's very seldom utilized.
I share your sentiment. I greatly prefer rational, educated discussions devoid of ad hominem. The problem is that political discussions amongst people who agree never last more than a very few posts, while discussions with leftists (those with whom I disagree) are never rational, educated or honest despite my yeoman's effort.

Also, I normally just respond to alert notifications and I don't know that I'm suddenly in APP where I will unwittingly carry on dishing it out with both barrels. One day, Damocles sent me a message "Be better" and I had no idea what he was talking about until he pointed out that I was going full bore in APP. I felt bad and really haven't gone back into APP.

I believe that could be because it's perceived as too restrictive and moderation is always subjective.
I think most people would agree with me that moderated safe spaces, kiddie pools and children's tables are fine as long as there is a basically unmoderated, free speech main forum offered as well.

To your point, leftists will always need an outlet for their inherent dishonesty and their frustration over mental, emotional and educational handicaps. They will always need to shit-show. Where you err is in thinking that moderation will eliminate the shit; instead, moderation is what empowers/enables it.

Only free speech can combat the shit. The kinds of focused discussions you want to be able to have that require moderation will all die out after only a relatively few Nonetheless, I fully support the option; anything and everything that prevents stifling any expression/discussion

And, it's free. In my experience, a lot of people tend to value what they pay for. If it's "free", not so much.

What I'm talking about is a "premium level" of access; it could be a sub-forum behind a paywall.

All forum content could remain visible (in read-only mode), but those who refuse to pay for the ability to comment at the subscriber level would not be able to do so.

I tend to think that would limit the shitposting. (Yes, I do it, too).

Naturally, if someone is willing to pay Damocles for the dubious privilege of engaging in endless grudge matches and off-topic nonsense, they could. But would they?

Of course, the general forum TOS (rules) would still apply.

I believe a lot less moderation would be demanded if commenting was limited to paid subscribers, because they'd lose their money and their access to commenting if they violated the TOS. Commenters would have "skin in the game".

I suspect the proportion of JPP's demographic willing to "put their money where their mouth is" might be very small.

I could be wrong. There's one way to find out.

Damocles already has a payment plan in place, it's just voluntary.

With a subscription-based commenting model, he'd just have to assign user permissions selectively. He already does that, just not on based on payment status.

Subscriber-only content is a huge segment of media.

If JPP offered that option, it would be a risk-free way to see if what works quite well all over the Internet would also work here.

Pay to play. You can look, but you can't touch, unless you pony up.

We'll see if he likes the idea enough to consider it, if he sees this. He may not want to.
I'm sold. I support your proposition. Now you need to get a proposition number.
 
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