The problem of evil

IBDaMann said:
You weren't able to explain anything. You raved, but you didn't explain.
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yes it's all bullshit and anti-americanism.

the Indians are not better, corporations just wants captive workers will less freedom.

And it's a betrayal of American citizens for short term profit.

:truestory:
 
Scut Farkus said:
so they're opposites. like we thought before.


more cold = less heat.

wow.


I see.
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No not opposites.

Does right cease to exist in the presence of left? Does up disappear in the presence of down?

You clearly don't see but I don't expect much from you.
 
Yakuda said:
Oh course it is. We experience evil and we experience cold but neither is anything that exists in the presence of good and heat.
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But does that answer the Problem of Evil? You are saying evil is merely the "absence" of good. So, again, why would an all-loving, all-knowing omnipotent God allow there to be an absence of good.

Let's go back to the example given earlier: the infant dying of a horrible cancer. Why would God allow that to happen?
 
Cypress said:
I see evil as something that rises to the level of the heinous or the reprehensible.

Having lustful thoughts about a best friend's wife may be wrong, but it's not heinous.
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I go with the definition that evil is the absence of goodness. There are different degrees of both goodness and evil. Killing animals for fun is evil but not as evil as killing people for fun. Donating to charity is good. Helping a charity is better. Giving a dollar to a homeless guy just to shut him up and knowing he'll spend it on cigarettes or liquor is less good. Maybe even neutral.

Having lustful thoughts about a best friends wife is a little evil but acting upon the thought is a bigger evil.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I go with the definition that evil is the absence of goodness. There are different degrees of both goodness and evil. Killing animals for fun is evil but not as evil as killing people for fun. Donating to charity is good. Helping a charity is better. Giving a dollar to a homeless guy just to shut him up and knowing he'll spend it on cigarettes or liquor is less good. Maybe even neutral.

Having lustful thoughts about a best friends wife is a little evil but acting upon the thought is a bigger evil.
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I remember reading that Saint Augustine defined evil as the absence of good, but I never felt that was a super compelling argument. I don't think Hitler and Stalin just lacked goodness in their souls. There were actively thinking about ways to bring progressively more and more evil, suffering, and cruelly to fruition.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I go with the definition that evil is the absence of goodness. There are different degrees of both goodness and evil. Killing animals for fun is evil but not as evil as killing people for fun. Donating to charity is good. Helping a charity is better. Giving a dollar to a homeless guy just to shut him up and knowing he'll spend it on cigarettes or liquor is less good. Maybe even neutral.

Having lustful thoughts about a best friends wife is a little evil but acting upon the thought is a bigger evil.
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what does this revelation solve in dealing with evil in ourselves and in others and in society?
 
Daylight63 said:
But does that answer the Problem of Evil? You are saying evil is merely the "absence" of good. So, again, why would an all-loving, all-knowing omnipotent God allow there to be an absence of good.

Let's go back to the example given earlier: the infant dying of a horrible cancer. Why would God allow that to happen?
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Free will. Your problem among many is you don't understand love.
 
Yakuda said:
Free will. Your problem among many is you don't understand love.
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One of the biggest haters, misogynists and racists on the forum preaching about love? WTF???

Yak, you prove daily you are not a Christian. A Christian Nationalist, but not a Christian.
 
Scut Farkus said:
what does this revelation solve in dealing with evil in ourselves and in others and in society?
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It's simple, Fredo. Be good. Stop doing evil. Stop trying to hurt others. Stop trying to divide people for your own pleasure. Stop supporting those that do.
 
Yakuda said:
Free will. Your problem among many is you don't understand love.
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Well, that's not really an answer. We are talking about an infant who is suffering in agonizing pain dying of an aggressive cancer.

Should the infant demonstrate "free will" and choose NOT to die of an aggressive cancer? Will my sudden experience of this strange emotion "love" cure the infant?
 
Yakuda said:
cold does not exist.
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So are you suggesting that pain and suffering do not exist as well?

That's the true problem of evil. NOT "does evil exist?", but rather does the effect of that evil exist? And it most assuredly does. It exists in our pain and suffering.

Why would God allow the pain and suffering to exist?
 
Scut Farkus said:
but it's at least an idea.

now you're being dumb.

why have you all gone dumb.
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It's more than an idea, it's an action.. Evil is what it is.

I am not being dumb. You know better.

Who is "you all"? You ain't going libtard on us, are you?
 
RB 60 said:
It's more than an idea, it's an action.. Evil is what it is.

I am not being dumb. You know better.

Who is "you all"? You ain't going libtard on us, are you?
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evil is a concept and an idea and an action.

what is the purpose of denying it as a concept.

just for shits and giggle?
 
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