Dixie, what seperates what McVeigh wanted from what you want...?

[apple0154]

Let me put it to you like this.... Pretend you are a Democrat congressman... Your constituents are clearly indicating they oppose the HCR bill and want you to vote against it. You are planning to do so, but the Democrat leadership approaches you, and they say... Apple, we have a proposition... If you vote FOR the bill, we will take care of you! You'll be given a cushy job in the administration, or some money may find its way into your personal bank account... wonderful things are going to happen for you! And Apple, if you DON'T vote for the bill, we will go out of our way to destroy your career and leave you looking for a job, if you can avoid prison...we have friends in the Justice Department who can make that happen. So, Apple... it's up to you... Support it, and live the good life, or oppose it, and pay the price... what'll it be?

Then why did some Dems not vote for the bill? Did they not take those imaginary, in-your-mind government threats seriously?

And YOU may think it was the "right thing to do" but the vast and overwhelming majority of your fellow Americans completely disagree with you.... does that matter to you in the least? I can tell you what is going to happen... in 2013, the HCR bill will be repealed by a majority Republican congress and administration, and we will have wasted billions of dollars trying to implement something we will have to scrap. Now, I almost wish this wasn't the case, and this wasn't going to happen, because I would really like to see it play out, and for you to have to face the music of how utterly WRONG you are. This is NOT a good thing for Americans, for America, or for health care in the US. And it's not one of those wishy-washy kinda bad, kinda good things, like NAFTA, that we can probably live with... it is CATASTROPHIC bad! You are just too much of a Socialist idiot to understand that.

It was the right thing to do. The citizens in every country that has some form of government involvement in health care want more government involvement. Any politician that tries to dismantle their government plan is ostracized.

Every country. No exception.

Why are you having difficulty understanding that?

 

[evince]

It doesn't take 'balls' to ram a truck full of explosives into a building of innocent workers. It takes cowardice. The same as the suicide bombers in the middle east.

Yes it does take balls.

You just think balls are the epitomy of all thats good so you dont want to admitt EVIL can have balls.

He had the balls to think HE KNEW what was best and that other should have to sacrafice for what HE KNEW was right.

The same with the 911 bombers and they at least had the balls to sacrafice themselves too.

Remember the monks that used to set themselves on fire in protest?

Now that is balls.

Those people were also not evil enough to TAKE OTHERS WITH THEM like McVeigh and the 911 bombers.

Balls means balls NOT sainthood

 

[Damocles]

Yes it does take balls.

You just think balls are the epitomy of all thats good so you dont want to admitt EVIL can have balls.

He had the balls to think HE KNEW what was best and that other should have to sacrafice for what HE KNEW was right.

The same with the 911 bombers and they at least had the balls to sacrafice themselves too.

Remember the monks that used to set themselves on fire in protest?

Now that is balls.

Those people were also not evil enough to TAKE OTHERS WITH THEM like McVeigh and the 911 bombers.

Balls means balls NOT sainthood

McVeigh didn't take anybody with him. He drove off in his white trash POS falling apart car that got him pulled over because his license plate was holding on by a thread. There was no "balls" associated with trying to blow up innocents and run away.

 

[evince]

Nope Damo , it had NO plates.

He never put plates on them.

He wanted to be caught and SAID so himself.

He had balls to do what he did, THAT DOES NOT MAKI IT A GOOD THING!

Balls do not translate to being a wonderful person.

You men just refuse to accept that.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

That should tell you they did what they thought was best for the country as they had nothing to gain or lose.

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here's the problem with those arrogant prick/pussy elitists that were put in those offices.....it's not THEIR job to determine whats best for us. That is OUR job. When they forget who their duty is to, it is up to us to remind them, and we will.

 

[apple0154]

here's the problem with those arrogant prick/pussy elitists that were put in those offices.....it's not THEIR job to determine whats best for us. That is OUR job. When they forget who their duty is to, it is up to us to remind them, and we will.

It is their job the same way it would be the job of anyone we hire to do any other job. That's why we hear politicians say they don't govern by polls.

We select someone to do a job, be it a politician or an electrician. The voting is like signing a contract. We expect the politician or the electrician to know more about their job and to do what is best and that's exactly what the politicians did who voted for HCR.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

It is their job the same way it would be the job of anyone we hire to do any other job. That's why we hear politicians say they don't govern by polls.

and that's how they end up losing their jobs. they need to govern by polls, especially when those polls indicate a clear majority of their constituency demand a certain action.

We select someone to do a job, be it a politician or an electrician. The voting is like signing a contract. We expect the politician or the electrician to know more about their job and to do what is best and that's exactly what the politicians did who voted for HCR.

and THIS ideology, ladies and gentlemen, of elections are meant to put more intelligent and wiser people than US in to office to do what THEY think is best is how we end up with hundreds of thousands of american citizens in internment camps. Those politicians THOUGHT they were doing the right thing. they were wrong.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

REmember when you said Id get a bulliet in my scull?>

Jarod, what separates your IQ from that of a rock?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Jarod, what separates your IQ from that of a rock?

SF, that's just plain insulting


to rocks.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

Yes it does take balls.

You just think balls are the epitomy of all thats good so you dont want to admitt EVIL can have balls.

No... it does not take balls to kill innocent unarmed people. That is an act of cowardice. Period. you have a deluded sense of what others 'think'.

He had the balls to think HE KNEW what was best and that other should have to sacrafice for what HE KNEW was right.

thinking he 'knew what was best' does not equate to having 'balls'. Having 'balls' is putting your life on the line for a stranger (like the firefighters, police and men and women in our armed forces are willing to do every day for the rest of us).

Killing innocent unarmed people is easy. It takes NO courage at all. It is an act of cowardice.

The same with the 911 bombers and they at least had the balls to sacrafice themselves too.

Again, you are wrong. They were cowards. Killing innocent people will NEVER be an act of courage.

Remember the monks that used to set themselves on fire in protest?

Now that is balls.

do you see the difference between the monks and McVeigh?

Obviously you are not intelligent enough to see it or you would not have posted such bullshit.

The difference desh is that the monks killed themselves in protest. They did not take innocent people with them.

McVeigh on the other hand killed innocent people and remained alive.

Those people were also not evil enough to TAKE OTHERS WITH THEM like McVeigh and the 911 bombers.

Balls means balls NOT sainthood

this is where your idiocy reaches new bounds. McVeigh was EXECUTED for his cowardice. The 9/11 terrorists killed themselves in an act of cowardice.

Balls is a slang term used for COURAGE. How courageous is it to deliberately kill unarmed innocent civilians Desh?

 

[cawacko]

No... it does not take balls to kill innocent unarmed people. That is an act of cowardice. Period. you have a deluded sense of what others 'think'.



thinking he 'knew what was best' does not equate to having 'balls'. Having 'balls' is putting your life on the line for a stranger (like the firefighters, police and men and women in our armed forces are willing to do every day for the rest of us).

Killing innocent unarmed people is easy. It takes NO courage at all. It is an act of cowardice.



Again, you are wrong. They were cowards. Killing innocent people will NEVER be an act of courage.



do you see the difference between the monks and McVeigh?

Obviously you are not intelligent enough to see it or you would not have posted such bullshit.

The difference desh is that the monks killed themselves in protest. They did not take innocent people with them.

McVeigh on the other hand killed innocent people and remained alive.



this is where your idiocy reaches new bounds. McVeigh was EXECUTED for his cowardice. The 9/11 terrorists killed themselves in an act of cowardice.

Balls is a slang term used for COURAGE. How courageous is it to deliberately kill unarmed innocent civilians Desh?

Not surprising at all that Desh doesn't get it.

A marine jumping on a live grenade that kills himself but saves the others in his group has balls, that is courage.

 

[Jarod]

Originally Posted by Dixie
"Let me tell you little Socialist punks something... If you think America is going to sit back and let the chicanery that's happening in Washington continue unabated, you've got another thing coming. People are MAD... MAD AS HELL over this, and the continued attitude of this Congress, and it's arrogant assumption that it doesn't have to listen to the people who elected it! You want to violate the Constitutional rights of half of America or more, and think you can pull that off, you fucking go for it punk! You'll be put down like the rabid animals you are, if that is the case!

There are a LOT of people out here, FED UP! Disgusted with YOU and your partisan political bullshit! We are growing sick and tired of being called "TEABAGGERS" and denigrated personally for believing in God or owning a Gun or Pickup truck! Mostly, we are sick of you trying to seize control of power to implement outright Marxist Socialism on America against their will! Americans will not stand for this shit! I promise you that! I am not going to tell you when that time is coming, you will know a second after the bullet penetrates your empty skull! But this country is nearing that tipping point, and you fuckwits better either realize that or get your affairs in order."



Looks simular to what McVeigh tried to accomplish...!

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Looks simular to what McVeigh tried to accomplish...!

Uhm... NO!

First of all, I have not advocated blowing up a federal building, or killing innocent women and children. In fact, I haven't even advocated violence! I did tell you that IF and WHEN the violence starts, you'll know it when the bullet penetrates your empty skull, and that isn't me advocating a damn thing, that's just me warning you that it's not going to go down like you may think. If you wish to delude yourself into thinking something else, or believing that I am advocating something bad happening to you, that is your business, I was just trying to clue you in on reality, something you seem to not be fundamentally aware of.

All I did was try to have a discussion with you about civil discourse, and you want to play it up to be about me inciting violence. That's funny as hell to me, because literally hundreds of thousands of Tea Party protesters can converge on Washington D.C. without ANY violence, and instead, leave the place cleaner than when they arrived... while on the other hand, you get more than 200 liberals together for anything, and you have to have the Riot Squad there with teargas to keep them from burning the city to the ground! You got a lot of fucking nerve to try and pin "violent acts" on the Tea Party!

 

[Topspin]

Dixie I mean grand wizard stop jazzing over shooting liberals. You talk shit and do nothing. Just like that piece of shit country bumpkin degree you got. Go check on your pigs and chill.

 

[zappasguitar]

You saw what happened with HCR as well as I did, if you want to stick your head up Democrat ass and pretend something "democratic" happened, that's your business.

They literally outright BRIBED people to vote in favor of it, against the will of their constituents. A huge chunk of supporting votes came from politicians who are "retiring" after this term, so it doesn't matter, the people will never have the chance to voice their displeasure at the ballot box against them. And then, there were the people they duped and lied to, in order to get the few extra votes they needed to pass it, with ZERO bipartisan support!

This wasn't "representative government" and it wasn't "democratic government" it was outright FRAUD, and the perpetrators, if they were working in the private sector, would be looking at prison time for what they pulled. But you go right ahead and suck up to the Democrats some more, I am sure they love it, and I am sure you get your thrills as well. You make a good fucking pair!

ZOMG how many different ways can you find to be wrong about something?!?!

It's absolutely amazing how totally wrongheaded you are, and how willing you are to spread totally phony lies!

So this administration "literally outright bribed" Senators and Congressmen?

Then provide a list of which Senators and what exactly the illegal bribe was that they got...go on, I'll be waiting.


Next...how about you provide me the names of the Senators and Congressmen that comprise the "huge chunk of supporting votes from politicians who are "retiring" after this term"...I bet your "gigantic" list has two, maybe three names tops...and I'll be waiting for that one too.

We'll start with those two...you get back to me one those and we'll take it from there.

 

[apple0154]

and that's how they end up losing their jobs. they need to govern by polls, especially when those polls indicate a clear majority of their constituency demand a certain action.

Exactly! That's why the ones retiring don't care if they lose their jobs. That's why they voted for the right thing.

and THIS ideology, ladies and gentlemen, of elections are meant to put more intelligent and wiser people than US in to office to do what THEY think is best is how we end up with hundreds of thousands of american citizens in internment camps. Those politicians THOUGHT they were doing the right thing. they were wrong.

That's quite a jump from health care to internment camps. :lol:

Drama much?

 

[apple0154]

No... it does not take balls to kill innocent unarmed people. That is an act of cowardice. Period. you have a deluded sense of what others 'think'.

When it comes to terrorists killing innocent people we have to remember we elect our government. The terrorist doesn't see individuals as innocent because the majority of the individuals elected a person(s) who invaded their country.

Just saying.

 

[cawacko]

When it comes to terrorists killing innocent people we have to remember we elect our government. The terrorist doesn't see individuals as innocent because the majority of the individuals elected a person(s) who invaded their country.

Just saying.

WTF? So the U.S. invaded itself according to McVeigh?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Exactly! That's why the ones retiring don't care if they lose their jobs. That's why they voted for the right thing.

HAHA, no. they are retiring because they know they did the wrong thing and don't stand a chance for re-election. they KNEW their jobs were to do the will of the people, not what they thought was right.

That's quite a jump from health care to internment camps. :lol:

Drama much?

no, its what happens when politicians forget their duty.

 

[apple0154]

WTF? So the U.S. invaded itself according to McVeigh?

I was referring to foreign terrorists.