Into the Night
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You are still locked in paradox on this also. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox, IBD. It's irrational.
Released hostage Eli Sharabi addressed the UN Security Council, describing how the Hamas terror group stole humanitarian aid and lived like kings
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IBDaMann
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Stop being stupid. I never claimed that Hamas doesn't exist. Hamas is a political party administering Gaza. Hamas has no money, no army and now no people.
I specified that there is no Hamas "in this equation." Hamas did not attack Israel; that was Iran via its proxy Al Qassam. You still have not provided images of your Hamas fighters that are not actually Iran's proxies.
moon
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You've been polite- so I'll see what I can find for you.
IBDaMann
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Dismissed.
The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide exists, and both Israel and the United States are signatories. This Convention defines genocide. What the IDF has done, and is doing, conforms to that definition. You have no legs on which to stand.
The 4th Geneva Convention exists, and both Israel and the United States are signatories. This Convention defines the punishable war crimes against civilians. The IDF has violated practically every single prohibition, with hundreds of counts each. You have no wiggle room.
moon
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Here's an official Israeli casualty report- but it's outdated and likely falsified. ( If you can't get in you're being blocked )
moon
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More accurate, I believe
allisrael.com
After a year of fighting: IDF reports 891 Israeli soldiers have died during war, including 390 in Gaza & 50 in Lebanon
Accidents and suicides among IDF soldiers are rising
allisrael.com
Into the Night
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Mantra 1a. Lame. Denying your own posts never works, IBD. You are still locked in this paradox. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.
Denying history doesn't work, either, IBD. You are still locked in your paradoxes.
Into the Night
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Argument of the Stone fallacy. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).
Trying to reference the Convention over and over to redefine 'genocide' won't work, IBD. There is no genocide. Hamas is not a signatory to the Convention.
Hamas, AKA al-Qassam - which is the same thing, as you full well know.
The only ones advocating genocide are the Muslims and you.
"From the River to the Sea" is a pledge to commit genocide, as you full well know.
The left supports genocide of the Jews using Hamas and other radical islamist groups.
More accurate, I believe
After a year of fighting: IDF reports 891 Israeli soldiers have died during war, including 390 in Gaza & 50 in Lebanon
Accidents and suicides among IDF soldiers are rising
And yet you STILL haven't released all the hostages.
Lebanon was a Christian nation for 600 years, until you Muzzie Beasts occupied and overthrew it.
Liberate Lebanon!
IBDaMann
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I won't claim that it is falsified, but I presume it is exaggerated by a percentage. For discussion purposes, I can accept the 891 figure as the number of IDF fallen, although I believe the actual number is substantively smaller (I believe that to get the largest number possible, they have included many non-IDF categories of deceased that are really not IDF). I also believe that the number of injured includes all paper cuts and stubbed toes. Nonetheless, we can go with the 891 fallen figure.
IDF Press Releases: Israel at War said:
IBDaMann
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I'll presume you just don't want to talk about it. I'm fine with that.
IBDaMann
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The "Muslims"? Not Iran but the "Muslims"? Does this include the Albanian Muslims? ... the Serbian Muslims? ... Bosnian Muslims? Do you have any sort of concrete position that isn't one of simple bigotry and HATRED?
How am I advocating for genocide? I am quite vocally decrying the horrendous genocide of the militant Zionist terrorist group IDF. I call for accountability under the Geneva Conventions and the Convention against Genocide. Beyond that, I do not support any organization, group or country beyond the US. I'm too busy focusing on MAGA.
You are gullible, but I am repeating myself. "From the River to the Sea" is a sentiment of hope to one day return to the promised land, as you undoubtedly once knew but decided to allow others to dictate your opinions and positions.
Can you support this? I'd be very much interested in seeing examples of this, as I have not seen any.
How do you suppose that the left supports using unarmed dead people to commit genocide?
moon
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Nakba - Wikipedia
Apologize to the forum for your scurrilous attempt to subvert history
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IBDaMann
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A peace deal was reached in Qatar, and a phased schedule was forthwith agreed for hostage release. Al Qassam released the hostages specified in phase 1 in keeping with their end of the deal.
Israel then broke the deal by resuming their genocide with more illegal air strikes to public population centers, citing the fact that the hostages for phases 2 and 3 had not been released ahead of schedule, and that Israel "would not sit around and do nothing."
Israel cares nothing about hostages or peace. Israel only seeks to eradicate Arabs. Meanwhile, the Ayatollah cackles like Kamala; Iran doesn't care about Arabs either. Iran is hell-bent on destroying Israel, and if Arabs are slaughtered as well in the process, that's an added bonus.
Yes, as well as Filipino Muslims and African Muslims.
The deep seated hatred of Jews is imbedded in Islam
Islam is a a religion of bigotry and hatred - there is no Islam without it. The Jews rebuffed the Warlord Muhammad, god of Islam, and he hated them for rejecting him. He murdered all the Jews in Medina as revenge and then murdered or enslaved every Jew his hoards encountered after that.
You seek the destruction of Israel and driving the Jews into the sea. That is actual Genocide.
You defend actual terrorists, Hamas - then lie about soldiers defending their homeland.
Shameful.
The terrorists you promote and defend are not signatories. The are mere criminals and thugs.
About that, Antisemitism and pro-terrorism belong on the left. Most of the time you seem reasonable, but on this you come off as a blue haired Marxist rioting in the Columbia quad.
"From the River To the Sea" is a vow of genocide. The pledge of Muslims to purge every last Jew from the middle east.
A lot of people say you Columbia blue hairs don't understand what you're saying, but you do. It's the Muslim call to genocide.
Be honest.
Simple, you lie that the heavily armed Hamas terrorists are innocent "victims."
IBDaMann
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None of the Muslims that I know hate Jews. I further believe that Gazans HATE Israelis, not "Jews," for all the killing and bombing and war crimes and ethnic cleansing perpetrated by Israel that you support.
Be careful, the same could be said for Chrisitianity for the exact same reasons.
Be careful, the same could be said for Chrisitianity for the exact same reasons.
Christians perpetrated the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition.
I do? How did your impeccable logic arrive at that conclusion?
You never answer my questions. For whom have I expressed any support besides unarmed civilian noncombatants? Is your only argument a pivot to misrepresenting my position?
There's no telling how many different organizations you deliberately group together as the same group.
What? Have you started raving incoherently?
1. I do not promote the IDF.
2. Israel absolutely is a signatory.
So your antisemitism places you on the left?
I am always factual and rational. I simply provide information for independent verification. You are irrational and advocate for the genocide of Arab Semites. You will not answer my questions and you misrepresent my position just so you can have something to attack, because otherwise you have no valid response.
... only under your misrepresentation of my position.
You are also gullible. Gazans want their Palestine homeland which doesn't exist today. How are you this blind? The Palestine for which they yearn runs from the river to the sea. There is no violence in that; you are misrepresenting positions again.
Let's run through this. You don't seem to understand anything about the situation in the Middle East. All you do is double down on errors. You insist on the absurd. You advocate for the observable genocide that is ocurring in real time. You whole-heartedly support militant Zionist terrorists in their active ethnic cleansing. You turn a blind eye to violations of International Conventions and pivot from Israel's status as a signatory. You won't explain yourself, but instead pivot to misrepresenting the positions of others.
Like I said, if you really don't wish to have a conversation on the matter, you are free to abstain. You don't even have to thank me for the free information that I have provided you, although it would be nice if you were to do so.
False. The active genocide of Israel seeks to purge every Arab from Gaza.
You need to post an image of Hamas, not of one of Iran's proxies if you are going to try to go there.