IBDaMann
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By the way, read the decision. Residency wasn't a factor. The Supreme Court wasn't trying to legislate, they decided the case based on applying the law, i.e. the 14th Amendment.
So we have a US born American citizen being held without trial
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IBDaMann
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Irrelevant. Indian Reservations were not considered subject to US jurisdiction at the time. By the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, Native Americans were back to being subject to the jurisdiction of the US and, of course, were US citizens.
A child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States, by virtue of the first clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution,
IBDaMann
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I gave you the correct answer. You are a dimwit.
lol he's a dumbass, and can't read well.
But you lied or you are just a moron. I suspect some of both.
Illegal aliens do not have domicil in the US.
Domicil generally refers to a person's legal permanent home or residence, which is different from their temporary location or residence. It's a place where a person has a fixed and permanent home, regardless of where they might be living temporarily. For legal purposes, a person's domicile is significant as it determines jurisdiction and venue for legal processes, and it's the place where they are considered to have their roots.
IBDaMann
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Irrelevant. They aren't the child who is born in the US.
Illegals aren't permanent citizens of the US and are subject to the jurisdiction of their home country, as are their offspring. Brigham was politically very active for more than a decade after writing the 14th yet he never commented about why Indians including those born off the reservation were not considered to be US citizens. The Federal government has always had jurisdiction on reservations. Federal Marshals have always been able to investigate crime and arrest on reservations. If they went by your definition of the 14th there would have been no need for the Snyder Act of 1925.
American Indian reservations are autonomous from state governments but subject to federal regulation. They are governed by their own tribal governments, which are recognized by the federal government. However, federal law still applies to reservation lands, and the federal government holds title to the land in trust for the tribe.
Dutch Uncle
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You have great Google skills, Ms. Fat Lame, but you lack the ability to understand your own findings in light of the discussion about the 14th Amendment and birthright citizenship.
Bai Lan
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no t.a.
you're being a bitch right now.
they're not good with proper immigration and asylum procedures, so you shouldn't be a little bitch.
It means citizens of other nations you brainless moron. I get why you were stupid enough to vote for Kamala.
If we accept your definition then what does this mean?
The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution ...
;—to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;
In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.
The courts have jurisdiction over ALL cases and all controversies involving the United States. If there is a question about foreigners being in the US then that is a controversy that involves the US which means that the Constitution says US Courts have jurisdiction. That means that the courts have jurisdiction over foreigners in the US which clearly shows that the foreigners are subject to the jurisdiction of the US and US courts. If the courts have no jurisdiction then the US can't deport them since the US would have no jurisdiction.
Bai Lan
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no they don't.
That doesn't make sense. Can you elaborate?
Judicial power extends to ALL cases and to all controversies involving the US. Are you saying the President has nothing to do with the US?
Bai Lan
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the president has sole purview over national defense issues.
including arresting the entire supreme court.
did you read the patriot act?
ROFLMAO. So the Constitution allows the President to arrest judges? Perhaps you should try reading Art III.
Bai Lan
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in states of emergency the president can do whatever he feels necessary.
did you read the Patriot act?
Bai Lan
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national defense is the president's sole purview.