Mark Levin on Tariffs and courts.

[SmarterthanYou]

So no point. You just like hearing yourself. Got it.

I see you still can't admit when you're wrong.

 

[Truth Detector]

I see you still can't admit when you're wrong.

I see you still don't have a point.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

yep.

that's Sean hannity.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

and i have loved Sean for years, from the neal boortz Atlanta days where I heard him locally before Fox news.

always awesome.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

I said that the SENATE can approve or veto any treaty that the President proposes to them.

yes.

I believe this is the constitutional position.

this other law that "gave Congress power then gave it back" is just unconstitutiional.

I guess really the Senate could pull the ultimate globalist trade treachery if they wanted.

 

[Into the Night]

The Constitutional Convention in 1787 specifically rejected granting the Federal govt. the right to use military force against a state. Such a clause was proposed by Charles Pickney of South Carolina, who ironically was also responsible for ensuring the protection of slavery by threatening the state's rejection of the Constitution. He was opposed to string stats' right, the exact opposite of later southern views.

Irrelevant, since South Carolina was not a State of the Union at the time. Rights do not come from a piece of paper. State's rights are inherent.

No matter what nation a State belongs to, no matter how oppressive the overlying government is, every State has the right to defend itself, just as every individual has the right to defend themselves. That does not come from the 2nd amendment or any other part of any constitution.

The federal government of the United States was never given any authority to ban or limit any weapon. The 2nd amendment also makes that specifically apply to the States.

 

[Into the Night]

yes.

I believe this is the constitutional position.

The Constitution isn't a position, NoName. It's a document.

this other law that "gave Congress power then gave it back" is just unconstitutiional.

What law are you speaking of, NoName???

I guess really the Senate could pull the ultimate globalist trade treachery if they wanted.

Trade isn't treachery.

Go learn English.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

The Constitution isn't a position, NoName. It's a document.

What law are you speaking of, NoName???

Trade isn't treachery.

Go learn English.

you're not a poo poo, you're a pee pee.

I win.

 

[EdwinA]

Irrelevant, since South Carolina was not a State of the Union at the time. Rights do not come from a piece of paper. State's rights are inherent.

No matter what nation a State belongs to, no matter how oppressive the overlying government is, every State has the right to defend itself, just as every individual has the right to defend themselves. That does not come from the 2nd amendment or any other part of any constitution.

The federal government of the United States was never given any authority to ban or limit any weapon. The 2nd amendment also makes that specifically apply to the States.

Rubbish. it has everything to do with its right to secede; Lincoln and the 'the Union' didn't go to war on the premise they were fighting a foreign country. You're just trolling. Keeping any state in the union by force was specfically denied as an option for the Federal govt.

 

[Into the Night]

Rubbish. it has everything to do with its right to secede;

Any State has the right to secede from the Union. That is just as inherent a right as the right to defend itself. I have never said otherwise.

Lincoln and the 'the Union' didn't go to war on the premise they were fighting a foreign country.

Omniscience fallacy. You don't get to speak for the dead.

The CSA at the time was a separate nation from the USA.

You're just trolling.

Ah...the old useless chant....

Keeping any state in the union by force was specfically denied as an option for the Federal govt.

Lincoln did not keep any State in the Union by force.

He DID, however, defeat the CSA, which was then dissolved. Each of those States than chose to rejoin the Union.

Thus, it was not a civil war. It was a war between two nations.

 

[EdwinA]

Omniscience fallacy. You don't get to speak for the dead.

You don't get to speak like an idiot. It's clear what premises Lincoln illegally went to war over. Whether it suits your fantasies or not, the war wasn't over slavery, and it wasn't based on the idea that the South was a foreign country, just the opposite. Get over it. His premise was that they were in rebellion, and still states.

 

[Into the Night]

You don't get to speak like an idiot.

Anyone gets to speak like an idiot. Just look at the Democrat posts around here!

It's clear what premises Lincoln illegally went to war over.

War doesn't go through a court of law. There is nothing 'illegal' about the occurrence of any war. Lincoln didn't even fire the first shot of the War of Secession.South Caroline militiamen did.

Whether it suits your fantasies or not, the war wasn't over slavery,

It basically was, since slaves are property.

and it wasn't based on the idea that the South was a foreign country, just the opposite.

The CSA was a different nation than the USA.

Get over it. His premise was that they were in rebellion, and still states.

There were in rebellion. They rebelled and left the Union and formed the CSA. Hence, many Confederate soldiers were referred to by Union soldiers as 'Rebels', just as the Rebels referred to the Union soldiers as 'Bluebellies'.

I don't need to get 'over' anything. The War of Secession was fought in the 1800's, it's effects on the Constitution and in our laws still prevail today. The War is done. It's history. There is nothing to 'get over'. I didn't fight in it, and neither did you.

You apparently support what the CSA formed for. Fine I have no problem with that. But be aware that BOTH sides were right, and BOTH sides were wrong on many points. I'm not out to wound your Southern pride. Indeed, I understand it and have no problem with it. That kind of pride is what our country relies on today!

Remember we are now one nation! Defend herr! Take pride in her!

 

[EdwinA]

Anyone gets to speak like an idiot. Just look at the Democrat posts around here!

War doesn't go through a court of law. There is nothing 'illegal' about the occurrence of any war. Lincoln didn't even fire the first shot of the War of Secession.South Caroline militiamen did.

It basically was, since slaves are property.

The CSA was a different nation than the USA.

There were in rebellion. They rebelled and left the Union and formed the CSA. Hence, many Confederate soldiers were referred to by Union soldiers as 'Rebels', just as the Rebels referred to the Union soldiers as 'Bluebellies'.

I don't need to get 'over' anything. The War of Secession was fought in the 1800's, it's effects on the Constitution and in our laws still prevail today. The War is done. It's history. There is nothing to 'get over'. I didn't fight in it, and neither did you.

You apparently support what the CSA formed for. Fine I have no problem with that. But be aware that BOTH sides were right, and BOTH sides were wrong on many points. I'm not out to wound your Southern pride. Indeed, I understand it and have no problem with it. That kind of pride is what our country relies on today!

Remember we are now one nation! Defend herr! Take pride in her!

We need a fake news thingy.

 

[Truth Detector]

Rubbish. it has everything to do with its right to secede; Lincoln and the 'the Union' didn't go to war on the premise they were fighting a foreign country. You're just trolling. Keeping any state in the union by force was specfically denied as an option for the Federal govt.

Historic ignoramus on display here.

 

[Truth Detector]

You don't get to speak like an idiot.

....but you do.

 

[Truth Detector]

We need a fake news thingy.

You need a real brain.

 

[Into the Night]

We need a fake news thingy.

?

 

[EdwinA]

Historic ignoramus on display here.

Talk about projection. Facts annoy right wing ideologies, too, not just commies and deviants.

 

[EdwinA]

Anyone gets to speak like an idiot. Just look at the Democrat posts around here!

War doesn't go through a court of law. There is nothing 'illegal' about the occurrence of any war. Lincoln didn't even fire the first shot of the War of Secession.South Caroline militiamen did.

It basically was, since slaves are property.

The CSA was a different nation than the USA.

There were in rebellion. They rebelled and left the Union and formed the CSA. Hence, many Confederate soldiers were referred to by Union soldiers as 'Rebels', just as the Rebels referred to the Union soldiers as 'Bluebellies'.

I don't need to get 'over' anything. The War of Secession was fought in the 1800's, it's effects on the Constitution and in our laws still prevail today. The War is done. It's history. There is nothing to 'get over'. I didn't fight in it, and neither did you.

You apparently support what the CSA formed for. Fine I have no problem with that. But be aware that BOTH sides were right, and BOTH sides were wrong on many points. I'm not out to wound your Southern pride. Indeed, I understand it and have no problem with it. That kind of pride is what our country relies on today!

Remember we are now one nation! Defend herr! Take pride in her!

Can't face the facts; okay, not anything new. Most Yankees like to lie about the Civil War; it needs to pretend it was fighting over principles, not merely money and plunder, and of course to keep blacks out of the North and the new territories, not free them.

 

[Truth Detector]

Talk about projection. Facts annoy right LEFT wing ideologies, too, not just commies and deviants.

FIFY bone head.