Margot
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There's a who chapter on the rich seeing things as I.
And the people looking at things as we!
Best book I've ever read.
Followed by Catch 22
Ignorance and the Bible
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And the people looking at things as we!
Best book I've ever read.
Followed by Catch 22
Dutch Uncle
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I do recall Catch 22. That was in college.
Not every thing in life has to be rational, scientific, mathematical. We're not robots.
Whether or not I believe it, it's a beautiful story that God entered human history, and chose to share in human suffering. A God who didn't give a shit about human suffering would never be expected to do that.
I'm surprised you are so provoked and irritated about a beautiful story like that, whether it's true or not. It's not something I stress out about.
They convinced themselves of the soundness of the prosperity gospel, and use it to justify their accumulation of excessive wealth.
Margot
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Excellent post!
Seems obvious. True polytheism has nothing to do with one God and three manifestations. Greek gods, for example, were autonomous and not related.
Greek gods always entered history. Old idea.
Nope, the people who decided the Trinity was dogma. It’s your fucking religion. Live with it.
Didn’t like that little factoid about the Trinity, did you?
How do you know they got saved? Did they come back and tell you so?
I know, I know. BGV, BGV, BGV. We’ve been over that before.
No popping. Remember?
Nope, your responses have not been measured, they’ve been low hanging fruit to refute.
A deity is no explanation why human beings exist. And we know humans possess abstract thought and consciousness. Based on your responses, I question the reason part.
My explanation of the Trinity is correct. Look it up. Don’t babble out of ignorance.
Paul reinvented Christ’s teachings. Nowhere did Jesus say that belief in his death and resurrection would be the path to salvation. He never said ‘faith, not works’. That’s Paul’s bullshit. His selling point to the gentiles. Jesus merely said “follow the law” and simply repent to be saved.
Margot
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So it's not Your religion, but yet you're A expert on the Trinity! Duh
Margot
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I'm in the business
The written words
Nope, not my religion. Unlike you, however, I can read and actually look things up to educate myself.
The Doctrine of the Trinity says 3 distinct and separate persons. Not 3 manifestations of one person.
I realize that the polytheistic nature of that doctrine fucks with your willfully ignorant head, but that’s the way it is. You’ll just have to live with that reality.
You are merely another example of atheists knowing more about your religion than you do.
Dutch Uncle
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Prosperity Christianity, like White Christian Nationalism, is not Christian. It's blasphemy.
What Is the Prosperity Gospel?
Prosperity gospel preachers and televangelists have deceived multitudes around the world with a false gospel, teaching that individuals who exercise true faith in Christ will surely attain physical, material, and financial prosperity in this life.
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What is the prosperity gospel?
The prosperity gospel is one of the most prominent false teaching movements of our day. Prosperity gospel preachers and televangelists have deceived multitudes around the world with a false gospel, teaching that individuals who exercise true faith in Christ will surely attain physical, material, and financial prosperity in this life........The false teachers of the prosperity gospel target their hearers’ desires for provision, position, and power. Instead of focusing on Christ, eternity, and the glory of God, they place an emphasis on living one’s “best life now.” Many people in economically depressed communities and in Third World countries follow this teaching because it holds out promises of social empowerment and deliverance from extreme poverty and disease. Others follow the teaching because it justifies greed.
The blasphemy of national Christianity
When push comes to shove, for nationalist Christians, ethnicity comes...
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...The idea that the moral demands of Christian faith should be subordinated to the demands of our ethno-national community is laid out explicitly in one of the more influential texts of today’s Christian nationalist movement, Stephen Wolfe’s ponderous The Case for Christian Nationalism. The book argues that the US should be a “Christian nation” in the strongest sense, in which a “Christian prince” shepherds the nation towards its “earthly and heavenly good” by suppressing “false religion” and compelling people to attend church. But not just anyone can belong to Wolfe’s Christian nation. “Nation,” Wolfe says, is a synonym for “ethnicity.” In one section of the book, he defends the idea that a Christian nation can exclude Christians from another nation (read: ethnicity). “Unity in Christ,” he writes, “does not entail or provide unity in earthly particulars.” National and ethnic differences are not overcome but in fact “strengthened” by Christian revelation.
BGV = The Universe Had a Beginning, according to it's author Velinkin.
You have to explain how the universe began from nothing, using only the tools and logic of atheism.
You've put an extraordinary amount of effort thinking about the belief system of Christianity, but I don't think you've ever taken a step back and critically evaluated your own faith system.
If you had, you wouldn't have blurted out "because we're human!" as a satisfactory or adequate explanation for how inanimate electrons and quarks acquire conscience, imagination, abstract thought.
That's what I thought too. Three manifestations of one single divine essence.
Prosperity Christianity, like White Christian Nationalism, is not Christian. It's blasphemy.
What Is the Prosperity Gospel?
Prosperity gospel preachers and televangelists have deceived multitudes around the world with a false gospel, teaching that individuals who exercise true faith in Christ will surely attain physical, material, and financial prosperity in this life.What is the prosperity gospel?
The prosperity gospel is one of the most prominent false teaching movements of our day. Prosperity gospel preachers and televangelists have deceived multitudes around the world with a false gospel, teaching that individuals who exercise true faith in Christ will surely attain physical, material, and financial prosperity in this life....
....The false teachers of the prosperity gospel target their hearers’ desires for provision, position, and power. Instead of focusing on Christ, eternity, and the glory of God, they place an emphasis on living one’s “best life now.” Many people in economically depressed communities and in Third World countries follow this teaching because it holds out promises of social empowerment and deliverance from extreme poverty and disease. Others follow the teaching because it justifies greed.
One might expect Christian nationalists to insist that the values of the nation be subordinated to Christian values, but what they really want is for Christian values to be subordinated to the nation. Christians from different national communities are fundamentally unlike each other, and one’s values and interests as a Christian must be subordinated to the particular values and interests of the nation. In national Christianity, nationality is like a mold into which Christianity is poured. Being an American Christian means having my Christian-ness conditioned by a more fundamental American-ness....The blasphemy of national Christianity
When push comes to shove, for nationalist Christians, ethnicity comes...
...The idea that the moral demands of Christian faith should be subordinated to the demands of our ethno-national community is laid out explicitly in one of the more influential texts of today’s Christian nationalist movement, Stephen Wolfe’s ponderous The Case for Christian Nationalism. The book argues that the US should be a “Christian nation” in the strongest sense, in which a “Christian prince” shepherds the nation towards its “earthly and heavenly good” by suppressing “false religion” and compelling people to attend church. But not just anyone can belong to Wolfe’s Christian nation. “Nation,” Wolfe says, is a synonym for “ethnicity.” In one section of the book, he defends the idea that a Christian nation can exclude Christians from another nation (read: ethnicity). “Unity in Christ,” he writes, “does not entail or provide unity in earthly particulars.” National and ethnic differences are not overcome but in fact “strengthened” by Christian revelation.
It is obviously tempting to justify greed on the basis of the prosperity gospel. It's a natural urge to acquire material wealth and influence.
Jesus clearly called people to rise above their urges.
As far as I know, the gods in the Iliad, the Odyssey, the plays of Sophocles do not elect to become human, but meddle in human affairs for their own (often petty) reasons.
Dutch Uncle
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While most of us are raised to seek prosperity and professional success, to do so at the expense of others is a sin, IMO. It's evil to believe in a Zero-Sum philosophy then work to take from others. Especially those who can't defend themselves or can't afford the loss.
Agreed on Jesus. Notice that all the atheists hate Jesus. They hate the religion Christianity so much they fail to look at the philosophy behind it. Atheists effectively throw the baby Jesus out with the bathwater in their rush to attack dogmatic Christianity.