Ignorance and the Bible

[Margot]

Not sure. I'm a little brain damaged. I remember reading John Steinbeck and Peal Buck but nothing specificic. I read a lot when I was a kid.

There's a who chapter on the rich seeing things as I.
And the people looking at things as we!
Best book I've ever read.
Followed by Catch 22

 

[Dutch Uncle]

There's a who chapter on the rich seeing things as I.
And the people looking at things as we!
Best book I've ever read.
Followed by Catch 22

I do recall Catch 22. That was in college.

 

[Cypress]

Now try saying it as it was actually understood by the Church: God manifested himself as himself to arrange to have himself sacrificed to himself to atone mankind to himself.

Then tell us how "rational" that sounds.

Not every thing in life has to be rational, scientific, mathematical. We're not robots.

Whether or not I believe it, it's a beautiful story that God entered human history, and chose to share in human suffering. A God who didn't give a shit about human suffering would never be expected to do that.

I'm surprised you are so provoked and irritated about a beautiful story like that, whether it's true or not. It's not something I stress out about.

 

[Cypress]

Maybe so! But what Christian Pastors, are wondering around without I dime in their pocket! Joel is just a bit more obvious!
Trump pretends to be Chosen by YHWH to fool the simpleminded,fake Christian Republican Evangicals!
Many of these TV preachers start out sincere, but when the money rolls end and the TV time bills come in,they end up in A vicious cycle.

They convinced themselves of the soundness of the prosperity gospel, and use it to justify their accumulation of excessive wealth.

 

[Margot]

They convinced themselves of the soundness of the prosperity gospel, and use it to justify their accumulation of excessive wealth.

Excellent post!

 

[Hume]

I've always read that the Trinity is not three separate entities, but manifestations of a single divine substance.

It's always seemed analogous to Hinduism which has a pantheon of different deities, but they are all just manifestations of the single universal spirit, Brahman.

Seems obvious. True polytheism has nothing to do with one God and three manifestations. Greek gods, for example, were autonomous and not related.

 

[Hume]

Whether or not I believe it, it's a beautiful story that God entered human history, and chose to share in human suffering. A God who didn't give a shit about human suffering would never be expected to do that.

Greek gods always entered history. Old idea.

 

[domer76]

Considered heresy by whom? Jesus ? No!, YHWH? No! The Holy Spirit no!

Nope, the people who decided the Trinity was dogma. It’s your fucking religion. Live with it.

 

[domer76]

Did I tell you what they taught?! You have an extremely shallow grasp of theology.

Didn’t like that little factoid about the Trinity, did you?

 

[domer76]

Of course not! But some people do get saved! But it's not an end justifies the means

How do you know they got saved? Did they come back and tell you so?

 

[domer76]

Now you're choosing to be agnostic about the origin of everything?
It's only important what you think, research physicists aren't posting on this thread.

The universe had a beginning. It's not infinitely old, according to the BGV theorem.

As an atheist, you only believe in matter and energy, and that all causes have an inanimate material cause.

Therefore your belief system necessarily is that the universe popped into existence by inanimate chance.

Resorting to insults when my responses have been measured?

"Because we're human beings!" is not an explanation for how inanimate electrons and quarks cause reason, conscience, abstract thought. It's circular reasoning. You haven't explained anything physically or chemically.

I doubt you are as informed as you think you are, since you don't really get the Trinity, and you didn't know about the Great Commission of Jesus to his followers to spread the gospel to all the humans of the world. You also don't seem to know much about the Epistles.

I know, I know. BGV, BGV, BGV. We’ve been over that before.

No popping. Remember?

Nope, your responses have not been measured, they’ve been low hanging fruit to refute.

A deity is no explanation why human beings exist. And we know humans possess abstract thought and consciousness. Based on your responses, I question the reason part.

My explanation of the Trinity is correct. Look it up. Don’t babble out of ignorance.

Paul reinvented Christ’s teachings. Nowhere did Jesus say that belief in his death and resurrection would be the path to salvation. He never said ‘faith, not works’. That’s Paul’s bullshit. His selling point to the gentiles. Jesus merely said “follow the law” and simply repent to be saved.