Reality: Homosexual Marriage

PostmodernProphet said:
of course....it's all about me and my hateful racist ways.....it has nothing at all to do with you forcing society to conform to your beliefs......just as you did when liberals told us it was a good thing to kill our unborn children......
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While it shows character to admit your racism, you still haven't shown where I was supposed to have refered to you as one.
 
Southern Man said:
Marriage between one man and one woman has always been part of the 5000 year history. Queer marriage has never been.
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DAMN!!
Could you loan that list of all the marriages, during the last 5,000 year history, to Ancestory.com; becuase it would really be a big help to them.
 
Southern Man said:
Queer marriage was never allowed in Greece or Rome.
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Dixie said:
And if I were in love with my Dad, I couldn't marry him! If I were in love with another man, I couldn't marry him! If I am in love with Rosamund Pike, I can't marry her! If I am in love with my dog or my mailbox, I can't marry them! If I am in love with a 10-year-old boy OR girl, I can't marry them, If I am in love and below the age of 18, I can't marry ANYONE!

You are presenting a FALSE ARGUMENT!
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Strawman arguement.
Major failure
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USFREEDOM911 said:
BUT IT WILL BE AND THEN WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO??
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Glinda, the Good Witch of the North came to USF in a dream, and she told him... Don't ever give up on your dream to see men marry men and women marry women! If you believe in it, and wish for it hard enough, then anything is possible! She gave USF a pair of ruby slippers, and told him to close his eyes and tap his heels whilst repeating... Gay Marriage Will Happen... Gay Marriage Will Happen!

I don't know what I'll do USF, I guess I'll have to call on the flying monkeys!
 
Southern Woman said:
"The most widespread and socially significant form of same-sex sexual relations in ancient Greece was between adult men and adolescent boys, known as pederasty."

Is this your idea of 'normal'?
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But the discussion was about Homosexuality between adults and someone tried to say that it wasn't prevelant in Rome or Greece.

Do you need another tongue lashing. :cof1:
 
PostmodernProphet said:
then use an example of something which is abnormal which is changing to normal.....I don't consider abuse or neglect to be normal and wouldn't either before or after a change in laws.....

here's a valid parallel for you....once upon a time it was considered abnormal to kill your unborn children.......
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It was only considered abnormal to kill ones unborn child if there wasn't a reason or until a relatively safe method could be found. Civilizations left genetically damaged children to die because they could not determine genetic defects before birth. Also, children were left to die if the bearer of the child knew they could not look after it. Food shortage, lack of other resources, etc.

Talk of souls entering male fetuses before female fetuses, arguments about souls entering fetuses at "quickening" and, my favorite, the deal made between Napoleon of France and the Pope in 1869, where Napoleon declared the Pope infallible in exchange for the Pope telling his flock it was a crime against God to abort because the population of France was declining and Napoleon wanted to make sure there were enough new bodies to send to the slaughter of war.

Outlawing abortion, for reasons based on everything from the absurd to the vile, is an example of the normal becoming the abnormal. We can be thankful for the prevailing sense of the SCOTUS and other intelligent leaders of various countries.
 
Southern Man said:
Have you found any actual marriages in those two failed states?
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You're the one that professed that there weren't any, so it falls on you to show that they were prohibited.

Surely with all the texts we have from that period, you can find something that say's gay marriages were disallowed.
 
Dixie said:
Well WB, what you keep arguing is false! No one can marry someone of the same sex, it doesn't matter if they are gay or not gay! I can't argue that nudists are being denied their right to roam around in public naked! It's a stupid argument to claim they are being denied a right, because they are nudists who want to run around in public naked and can't! It's stupid for me to argue they are being discriminated against, when NO ONE is allowed to run around naked in public!
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No one is allowed to marry the consenting adult of their choice. That is the thing you authoritarians ignore. This country is about people being able to make choices in their life that the government should not interfere in so long as no one is harmed. You have used the false premise of religion and then ignore that there are relgious groups in this country that believe it is good and proper than homosexuals be allowed to marry and you just ignore those religions. This is EXACTLY the kind of tyranny of the majority that Mills talked about. But go on about ignoring it. Just because the majority of religions don't agree with same sex marriage does not mean that the government has the right to regulate it. They should be out of the business all together and let the churches decide who they will and will not marry. But keeping laws on the books because certain religions don't cotton to same sex marriage is not the proper role of government at all.
 
Dixie said:
Glinda, the Good Witch of the North came to USF in a dream, and she told him... Don't ever give up on your dream to see men marry men and women marry women! If you believe in it, and wish for it hard enough, then anything is possible! She gave USF a pair of ruby slippers, and told him to close his eyes and tap his heels whilst repeating... Gay Marriage Will Happen... Gay Marriage Will Happen!

I don't know what I'll do USF, I guess I'll have to call on the flying monkeys!
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Please stay on this board, when gay marriges are ruled to be legal; because I want to see how you act, when that house gets dropped on you.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
You're the one that professed that there weren't any, so it falls on you to show that they were prohibited.

Surely with all the texts we have from that period, you can find something that say's gay marriages were disallowed.
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Obviously you've combed the internet and found nothing to support your assertion that they were allowed.:)
 
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