Why do you oppose making the Epstein files public?

I can't see how that would help. The crimes are not all federal, he can't even pardon himself for the ones that aren't. Having it come out after will still leave him open to prosecution. The "three years" thing would not change the outcome. I cannot possibly see how "three years" is the end game here.
Worse for the Pedophile-in-Chief is the prospect of being impeached. Currently the Senate is 53 R's, 45 D's and 2 I's. 2/3s would be 67 Senators although I'm not quite sure what "of Member's Present" means.

If 5 Republican Senators call in sick, does that mean an impeachment would only require 64 Senators to convict?

Given how desperately Trump is running from the Epstein Files, I think he might choose to resign "for health reasons" to avoid an impeachment conviction.

The United States Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" (Article I, section 2) and "the Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments … [but] no person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present" (Article I, section 3). The president, vice president, and all civil officers of the United States are subject to impeachment.
 
Melania definitely knew what was going on. She is also complicit.
I think a lot of rich and powerful people "knew what was going on", but disagree that makes them complicit. I may suspect a neighbor abuses his wife, but unless there's evidence such as frequent police visits or hospital visits, what can I do? Where is the line drawn between suspicions and complicity?

To Melania's credit, she wasn't in a rush to hook up with Donnie. They even broke up for a time and eventually married January 22, 2005. The Donnie and Jeffrey Bromance had broken up the previous year.

IMO, there's more evidence that Melania was against the Pedo Crowd than she was for or complicit in their actions.


 
I think a lot of rich and powerful people "knew what was going on", but disagree that makes them complicit. I may suspect a neighbor abuses his wife, but unless there's evidence such as frequent police visits or hospital visits, what can I do? Where is the line drawn between suspicions and complicity?

To Melania's credit, she wasn't in a rush to hook up with Donnie. They even broke up for a time and eventually married January 22, 2005. The Donnie and Jeffrey Bromance had broken up the previous year.

IMO, there's more evidence that Melania was against the Pedo Crowd than she was for or complicit in their actions.


If you know of a crime being committed and you do nothing to stop it / call the police etc. You can be found complicit in those crimes.
 
If that was true he would have released it months ago, taken credit for doing so, made book copies and grifted off of it for years to come.
Agreed here. There's something in the files that scares the shit out of Donnie. I suspect it might be financial since the statute of limitations of him bouncing 15-year-old girls on his naked lap would have expired.

There's some caveats in the link below, but generally I think the Pedo President is safe from criminal prosecution for statutory rape 25 years ago. This is why I'm thinking it isn't video of him raw dogging a 15-year-old sex slave that scares him so much. Trump's #1 desire in life is money. Therefore, I think his fears are linked to financial issues.

Statutory rape refers to the act of engaging in sexual activity with a person below the legal consent age. In Florida, the age of consent is 18 years. That means that if you engage in sexual activity with a child who is 17 years or younger, you may be charged with statutory rape.

Generally, Florida’s statutory rape is regarded as a second-degree felony, and offenders can be sentenced to 15 years or 15-40 years in prison while habitual offenders can get locked up for life. However, if the victim succumbs to the sexual offense, death penalties may apply....

...The statute of limitations for statutory rape in the state of Florida is three years. In other words, the victim must bring forth and file any rape charges within three years after the commission of the offense to be legally binding and valid for prosecution.
 
If you know of a crime being committed and you do nothing to stop it / call the police etc. You can be found complicit in those crimes.
You mean like watching a rape being committed or simply hearing someone discuss something that may have happened on Pedo Island at a cocktail party? If the former, I agree. If the latter, then what can the police do?

In short, I think it's an error to focus on Melania over keeping the focus on Donnie the Ephebo.
 
If you know of a crime being committed and you do nothing to stop it / call the police etc. You can be found complicit in those crimes.
If you suspect a crime being committed but do not know or have evidence of it you are not complicit.

An example given earlier in the thread. I suspect that someone I know abuses their wife, but I do not have evidence. There is no hospital records, etc. I can tell the police, but my suspicion is not evidence, and without the evidence they can do nothing.

If I suspect that Epstein is doing something, but do not have evidence of it, I would not be complicit if I didn't "do something" to stop it, there is a likelihood that if I did "do something" to stop it nothing would be done...

Are we certain that Trump never contacted anyone about this? It seems that when he suspected such activity he did act. He threw Epstein out of his properties in 2004 (various reasons have been listed, but it seems it came right at the same time his spa staff were being "poached" by Epstein), in 2005 to 2006 he cooperated with Palm Beach PD giving evidence to the PD. Amazingly he was the only one subpoenaed that actually showed up and gave testimony (clearly "knew about the girls" as he actively aided in the investigation).

I mean. His current actions show he is trying to keep records from the public. I just don't think it is to protect himself. I think he's trying to protect someone else.
 
You mean like watching a rape being committed or simply hearing someone discuss something that may have happened on Pedo Island at a cocktail party? If the former, I agree. If the latter, then what can the police do?

I think that Trump knew about the child sex ring and even went to Epstein's place where these girls were "working". Now I don't know if he partook in the activities but based on his sexual immorality and previous rape and fraud convictions, I wouldn't out it past him. The issue would be proving he did do this after so long. I do believe that Epstein and him had a falling out and Epsetin had stuff on Trump. That is why Trump offed him so he wouldn't talk.
 
If you suspect a crime being committed but do not know or have evidence of it you are not complicit.

An example given earlier in the thread. I suspect that someone I know abuses their wife, but I do not have evidence. There is no hospital records, etc. I can tell the police, but my suspicion is not evidence, and without the evidence they can do nothing.

If I suspect that Epstein is doing something, but do not have evidence of it, I would not be complicit if I didn't "do something" to stop it, there is a likelihood that if I did "do something" to stop it nothing would be done...

Are we certain that Trump never contacted anyone about this? It seems that when he suspected such activity he did act. He threw Epstein out of his properties in 2004 (various reasons have been listed, but it seems it came right at the same time his spa staff were being "poached" by Epstein), in 2005 to 2006 he cooperated with Palm Beach PD giving evidence to the PD. Amazingly he was the only one subpoenaed that actually showed up and gave testimony (clearly "knew about the girls" as he actively aided in the investigation).

I mean. His current actions show he is trying to keep records from the public. I just don't think it is to protect himself. I think he's trying to protect someone else.
Trump never called the police about Epstein child sex ring. He knew about it and did nothing. That is why I am saying he is complicit.
 
Trump never called the police about Epstein child sex ring. He knew about it and did nothing. That is why I am saying he is complicit.
I don't think you know that. What we do know is he was there when Palm Beach PD was investigating Epstein, he showed up, he gave information.
 
Going back to pretending trump was there with those kids as an undercover cop? LOL I swear
I am not "pretending" anything. I am telling you what actually happened. When Palm Beach PD was investigating Epstein, Trump showed up and provided information. This tells me that he's "done something". That you refuse to absorb actual information doesn't change what actually happened.

It is my opinion that he is covering up for someone he cares about. It's even possible it is someone with that same last name...
 
I am not "pretending" anything. I am telling you what actually happened. When Palm Beach PD was investigating Epstein, Trump showed up and provided information. This tells me that he's "done something". That you refuse to absorb actual information doesn't change what actually happened.

It is my opinion that he is covering up for someone he cares about. It's even possible it is someone with that same last name...
If you are innocent you would release the files. End of story.
 
I am not "pretending" anything. I am telling you what actually happened. When Palm Beach PD was investigating Epstein, Trump showed up and provided information. This tells me that he's "done something". That you refuse to absorb actual information doesn't change what actually happened.

It is my opinion that he is covering up for someone he cares about. It's even possible it is someone with that same last name...
You think one of his kids is also a pedophile? Interesting
 
If you are innocent you would release the files. End of story.
Unless you were trying to protect someone important to you. You don't need a pardon if you are not guilty... Why did Braindead pardon his son? Answer: to protect someone important to him.

I think even you can understand the path that was just shown you on the map.
 
Your side tried saying trump was an FBI informant in this case months ago. SMH
"My side" is not a "side" you moron. I'm not protecting Trump, I'm giving an opinion. I think he's protecting someone else. And I think we will eventually find out who it is.

I think his actions are "sus"... I just think they are "sus" for a different reason than you think they are, and I back that up with actual information rather than "feels" and how much I hate Trump...
 
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