I already kicked your ass in the debate.
you had zero understanding of why a cop would prefer an arrest outside. This proves you are a complete clown when it comes to axiomatic principles of self defense. back to your meth lab loser
cops murder doctor in his own home
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you had zero understanding of why a cop would prefer an arrest outside. This proves you are a complete clown when it comes to axiomatic principles of self defense. back to your meth lab loser
SmarterthanYou
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you did no such thing, though i'm sure you need to delude yourself in to believing that. Like most people, you have zero clue about the law, only what your masters tell you to believe.
volsrocks
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It is
incorrect to say that an arrest for a felony cannot occur without a warrant. Under U.S. and Missouri law, police can generally make a warrantless arrest for a felony if they have probable cause to believe a crime has been committed and that the person being arrested committed it.
They tried to arrest he pulled a gun
The "hot pursuit" exception allows officers to enter a private area, such as a home
- Felonies: Warrantless entry is generally justified when officers are in hot pursuit of a fleeing felon
And YES hot pursuit can be on foot
"Step out on your front porch. At this time, you are being placed under arrest," and he ran was fleeing an arrest
he was fleeing an arrest actively evading law enforcement when they went into his home
you claimed not having an arrest warrant is the only reason to ask them outside.
that is patently bullishit. the #1 reason is for officer safety. you are the dumbest guy in the room.
If I have an active warrant, I will still ask him to come outside - away from dogs, irate lovers and so on
sorry you are dumb. ignorance is bliss though, you will be ok
SmarterthanYou
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tell me you don't understand the 4th Amendment without telling me you're a complete fucking moron about the 4th Amendment.
I gave you the case law. you're wrong.
SmarterthanYou
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this post here tells me you're not only short sighted, but you have zero cognitive ability to perceive your immediate surroundings.
you're wrong. When this investigation is done, I will prove you wrong. I will continually tell you you're a fucking idiot for all time.
derp derp. you will go run and hide once the facts come out. all you have done for 6 months is make shit up
meth heads are the worst!
volsrocks
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There is an exception to the Fourth Amendment's warrant requirement ...you stupid FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AI Overview
The "hot pursuit" exception to the Fourth Amendment's warrant requirement allows police to enter a home without a warrant
How "hot pursuit" works under the Fourth Amendment
- Felony pursuit:
If police are in hot pursuit of a suspect believed to have committed a felony, they can enter a home without a warrant to make an arrest.
- United States v. Williams (354 F.3d 497 (6th Cir. 2003)) defined “hot pursuit of a fleeing felon” as an exigency exception to the warrant requirement. Middletown v. Flinchum (765 N.E.2d 330 (Ohio 2002)) stated officers in hot pursuit of a suspect who flees to a house in order to avoid arrest “may enter without a warrant, regardless of whether the offense for which the suspect is being arrested is a misdemeanor.”
- You really are a stupid fuck!!
- suspect who flees to a house in order to avoid arrest “may enter without a warrant, regardless of whether the offense for which the suspect is being arrested is a misdemeanor
- suspect who flees to a house in order to avoid arrest “may enter without a warrant, regardless of whether the offense for which the suspect is being arrested is a misdemeanor
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volsrocks
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There is an exception to the Fourth Amendment's warrant requirement ...you stupid FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exceptions to the Fourth Amendment's warrant requirement include exigent circumstances (like hot pursuit)
Common exceptions
- Exigent Circumstances: Police can enter a private area without a warrant if there is an immediate need to act, such as when a suspect is fleeing (hot pursuit)
AI Overview
The "hot pursuit" exception to the Fourth Amendment's warrant requirement allows police to enter a home without a warrant
How "hot pursuit" works under the Fourth Amendment
- Felony pursuit:
If police are in hot pursuit of a suspect believed to have committed a felony, they can enter a home without a warrant to make an arrest.
- United States v. Williams (354 F.3d 497 (6th Cir. 2003)) defined “hot pursuit of a fleeing felon” as an exigency exception to the warrant requirement. Middletown v. Flinchum (765 N.E.2d 330 (Ohio 2002)) stated officers in hot pursuit of a suspect who flees to a house in order to avoid arrest “may enter without a warrant, regardless of whether the offense for which the suspect is being arrested is a misdemeanor.”
- You really are a stupid fuck!!
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SmarterthanYou
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there was NO HOT PURSUIT, dumbshit. the suspect had been in his house, he answered the door. NO HOT PURSUIT.
volsrocks
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He was told he was under arrest he went back into the house...that is fleeing arrest
What is fleeing arrest?
evading arrest as the act of attempting or actively running away from a police officer that has made clear his or her intentions to arrest you.
you have no factual evidence that an arrest warrant did not exist
the article mentioned the arrest warrant
the motive for them being on the door step was to conduct an arrest....which aligns with the article mention of an arrest warrant
police are trained to get them outside.
you have no facts here, just a conspiracy theory about what a future report might say.
SmarterthanYou
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thank you for proving to me that you have no concept of the 4th Amendment. understand that this means you have zero protection from the government even in your own home.
SmarterthanYou
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mainstream media has been told there was a warrant, however, no warrant has ever been produced even after the shooting to show that the arrest was valid. you're falling for government lies, as usual, because you are a slave to government. I gave relevant case law, you gave law enforcement policy. they are not the same.
his family is not even disputing the issue. only a few meth head loonies online seem to care at this point.
only a retard would pretend to be an "I told you so" over a lack of information
SmarterthanYou
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his IN LAWS are not disputing the issue, who also happen to be the alleged victims.
I get that you simply don't give a fuck about the laws. you're obviously an ends justifying the means moron. that's how the government makes you an idiot slave
his family is not disputing the issue either. you have no facts. no links. just bullshit and conspiracy about what a future report is going to say
you have nothing. I care about the "laws" - but you have no facts to show a law was broken . just ignorance about why arrests are preferred outside
shit stains like you are why gun rights are under assault. you never fault the criminals. always the police. moron!.
volsrocks
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You don't have protection of the Fourth amendment if you are fleeing arrest the court has ruled on this you God damn stupid mother fucking idiot
SmarterthanYou
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I gave the relevant case law, which is a fact. you gave nothing but opinions of law enforcement. I get it, you're a slave who believes government.
you have no evidence that they showed up without an arrest warrant
you made that assumption based on your ignorance of why they would of asked him outside. your entire debate premise is an assumption of a conspiracy