cops murder doctor in his own home

[SmarterthanYou]

Repetition fallacy (chanting). Assumption. RAAA. Bigotry.
Why do you hate cops so much?

Because they are rarely held accountable for their wrongdoings. They are afforded so many more protections than the average citizen. The irony of holding them to a higher standard while excusing them for 90% of their misconduct doesn't go unnoticed, nor does the apathy displayed by most of you regarding it.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Almost every police department and sheriff's office have policies to just leave if you simply do not answer the door, so they can avoid losing a conviction if the courts do not go their way, even if they believe you are in there. You've taken control by simply not acting.

Unlawfully arresting me gives me a chance to sue, to teach them a lesson, so long as I survive the encounter. Often the cops will lose their jobs if the lawsuit is costly enough and their actions egregious enough. The point is to SURVIVE the encounter so you can force them to pay for their overreach. Acting out and dying will not do what you think it will.

1. and yet video after video shows them banging on a door at 1AM.......................continuously.

2. A 'chance'..................and, NO, cops don't often lose their jobs. IF they are reprimanded at all, it usually follows a promotion of some sort. Lawsuit settlements or awards are not paid for by the cops, or the cop unions, but insurance companies that the municipality, i.e. the taxpayers, pay for.

Do you realize that the courts, i.e. the federal government, has it set up so that even if the government violates your rights, in any way, you are REQUIRED to meekly and quietly/calmly submit to all those rights violations. Even the slightest resistance results in the resisting or obstructing offense that eliminates any chance you might have of suing...................and I remind you again that the chances of a successful suit are minimal. Settlements often solve nothing because 99% of the time, the government admits no wrongdoing and gives you money to make it go away that hardly compensates you for the violations you suffered.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

What right was violated? Now you call for insurrection and civil war?

The 4th Amendment, his home of sanctuary, where his person, property, and effects are considered protected, were violated by the rookie cop grabbing his arm to try to prevent him from closing his door on them, which he had every right to do.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

What part of the Constitution prevents a cop from crossing a threshold to conduct an arrest?
You can't use the 4th amendment, since this amendment does not discuss arrest procedure.

Payton vs. New York (capitol letters for your pleasure) stipulates that WITHOUT a warrant, and no exigent circumstances, police cannot cross the threshold of your home.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Resist arresting officers with a handgun when they have a warrant, and you are startled at this?

they had no warrant.

 

[Jake Starkey]

Prove it, and then admit how foolish you are.

 

[Into the Night]

JFC you morons. He didn't flee in to his home, he was ALREADY in his home.

Irrelevant. He evaded arrest.

you fuckers clearly don't know, or care, about the Constitution or the law.

RAAA. DON'T TRY TO HIDE BEHIND THE CONSTITUTION YOU ARE IGNORING!

 

[Into the Night]

grammar nazism aside, I see you failed to read the relevant case law.

Ignoring grammar is YOUR problem, dude. Argument of the Stone fallacy. Void reference fallacy.

Illiteracy: Sentences begin with a capital letter.

 

[Into the Night]

they had no warrant.

Repetition fallacy. RAAA.

Illiteracy: Sentences begin with a capital letter.

 

[Into the Night]

Prove it, and then admit how foolish you are.

Attempted force of negative proof fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Because they are rarely held accountable for their wrongdoings. They are afforded so many more protections than the average citizen. The irony of holding them to a higher standard while excusing them for 90% of their misconduct doesn't go unnoticed, nor does the apathy displayed by most of you regarding it.

So you hate cops because of your bigotry.

Void argument fallacy. Bigotry.

Every cop has to justify their actions in a court of law, dummy.

 

[Into the Night]

1. and yet video after video shows them banging on a door at 1AM.......................continuously.

Bigotry. Void reference fallacy.

2. A 'chance'..................and, NO, cops don't often lose their jobs. IF they are reprimanded at all, it usually follows a promotion of some sort. Lawsuit settlements or awards are not paid for by the cops, or the cop unions, but insurance companies that the municipality, i.e. the taxpayers, pay for.

Void argument fallacy.

Do you realize that the courts, i.e. the federal government, has it set up so that even if the government violates your rights, in any way, you are REQUIRED to meekly and quietly/calmly submit to all those rights violations.

Void argument fallacy. What rights were violated?

Even the slightest resistance results in the resisting or obstructing offense that eliminates any chance you might have of suing...................and I remind you again that the chances of a successful suit are minimal. Settlements often solve nothing because 99% of the time, the government admits no wrongdoing and gives you money to make it go away that hardly compensates you for the violations you suffered.

Resisting arrest is a felony, dummy. Threatening a cop with a deadly weapon is a felony, dummy. It could also easily result in your own death.

 

[Into the Night]

The 4th Amendment,

The 4th amendment is not a right. Try again.

his home of sanctuary, where his person, property, and effects are considered protected, were violated by the rookie cop grabbing his arm to try to prevent him from closing his door on them, which he had every right to do.

Your home will NOT PROTECT YOU from arrest, dummy.
RAAA. Repetition fallacy. False authority fallacy. Argument of the Stone fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Payton vs. New York (capitol letters for your pleasure)

Good. You're getting better.

stipulates that WITHOUT a warrant, and no exigent circumstances, police cannot cross the threshold of your home.

And you agree with me once again, even though you say you don't.

 

[Nomad]

ONE LESS UNSTABLE GUN OWNING POS MAKING THE WORLD MORE DANGEROUS FOR EVERYBODY WHILE BARREL STROKERS AND TRIGGER LICKER COP HATERS ON THE RIGHT CRAP THEIR DIAPERS AND FLING IT AT THE WALL.

FUCK YOU 2A GOOFBALLS.

I HOPE MORE OF YOU GET WASTED!!!

 

[Damocles]

1. and yet video after video shows them banging on a door at 1AM.......................continuously.

2. A 'chance'..................and, NO, cops don't often lose their jobs. IF they are reprimanded at all, it usually follows a promotion of some sort. Lawsuit settlements or awards are not paid for by the cops, or the cop unions, but insurance companies that the municipality, i.e. the taxpayers, pay for.

Do you realize that the courts, i.e. the federal government, has it set up so that even if the government violates your rights, in any way, you are REQUIRED to meekly and quietly/calmly submit to all those rights violations. Even the slightest resistance results in the resisting or obstructing offense that eliminates any chance you might have of suing...................and I remind you again that the chances of a successful suit are minimal. Settlements often solve nothing because 99% of the time, the government admits no wrongdoing and gives you money to make it go away that hardly compensates you for the violations you suffered.

One thing I know, if you pull a gun and fight with the police at your door with a warrant and keep fighting until you get shot, they will not even lose the lawsuit.

Whether or not you think it is murder they will not even lose the lawsuit.

I do not suggest compliance, I suggest not opening the door. It is your single best choice in that situation, it gives you the best opportunity to take control of when and how that warrant is served, and ensures you have representation when it happens.

Your plan is to die and let the living sort it out afterward while your ghost shouts about the second amendment, ignoring that they have the warrant required by the fourth.

Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. Sometimes your simple survival is the first step toward a win.

 

[Jake Starkey]

If the police have a warrant for you, smile and put your hands in the air and say, "Come on in, coppers, and I want my lawyer."

 

[Nomad]

One thing I know, if you pull a gun and fight with the police at your door with a warrant and keep fighting until you get shot, they will not even lose the lawsuit.

Whether or not you think it is murder they will not even lose the lawsuit.

I do not suggest compliance, I suggest not opening the door. It is your single best choice in that situation, it gives you the best opportunity to take control of when and how that warrant is served, and ensures you have representation when it happens.

Your plan is to die and let the living sort it out afterward while your ghost shouts about the second amendment, ignoring that they have the warrant required by the fourth.

Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. Sometimes your simple survival is the first step toward a win.

A lot of the people who do shit like he did are mentally unstable at the time.

Unfortunately, the cops cannot make that distinction when a weapon is produced.

Their main job at that point is to go home from work alive that day.

 

[Walt]

If they do not walk away, when serving solely an arrest warrant for something like this they would sit outside and wait, knowing at some point you have to leave. The idea is to ensure that you do not violate the rights of the person, they often create policy that protects even more than allowed. They can enter the home, I posted it above. If they have an arrest warrant and it is the man's home entering it is allowable if they have a reason to believe he is there. Very often they write policy to assume he is not, even if some evidence, e.g. like a TV being on, exists and they create the policy this way in order to protect the ability to actually prosecute, so they will not violate his rights...

They had a whole list of arrest warrants to serve. Had he hid inside his house, they would have moved on to the next arrest warrant. They are not going to waste all day hanging out at his house.

They can easily look up where he works, and arrest him there. That would destroy his career, and they were being nice to him.

Seriously, if there is an arrest warrant, try your best to turn yourself in.