They claim the American left don’t believe in God.

T. A. Gardner said:
I am correct, you just posted more hair splitting, aka trivial objections.
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No, you are trying to make up your own definitions to describe a lack of belief in anything supernatural. If you were to ask Mr. Owl what he thinks about God/a god, a soul, an afterlife, ghosts, werewolves, zombies, space aliens, UFOs, etc., he would tell you simply that there's no proof of their existence. Like the vast majority of similar people, he doesn't need to bray his thoughts or convince others to join him or attend meetings of like-minded folks, as is common among those who have religious beliefs.

Trying to turn those like him into some warped idea of religionists is simply a tribal way to separate them from those who choose to believe in those things. Why do you feel the need to do that?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Didn't take him long to make $$$ off selling his own version, did it? I wonder how many of our MAGATs here forked out $60 for their very own copy of the Trump-approved Revised version? lol
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Many Christian organizations give out bibles for free. The Gideons dedicated themselves to that.

It takes someone like the noted atheist Trump to decide he wants to profit off of Jesus, Paul, and Moses.
 
Jarod said:
Faith in what? Material wealth?
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Yes on mammon-worshiping. As their Pedo King does, all MAGAts follow.

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Cypress said:
Many Christian organizations give out bibles for free. The Gideons dedicated themselves to that.

It takes someone like the noted atheist Trump to decide he wants to profit off of Jesus, Paul, and Moses.
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Agreed....not to mention a truncated Constitution.
 
I did look up and have enjoyed reading the guidelines for atheists however... Things to say and do in times of crisis or celebration... So that you don't slip up and pray...:)
 
QP! said:
Faith in what? Not God or religion.

Tell us what church he went to historically or goes to since he discovered his "comeback faith" if you believe that?

Tell us what faith tells you to "hate others" as he told Erica Kirk at the funeral or what faith expresses that believers have not a single sin to ask forgiveness for?

What type of "faith comeback" does Trump represent?
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noahidism.
 
Ross Dolan said:
There is another alternative to what you suggested in your last paragraph, QP...and it has terrific advantages over what you propose. And that is not to use the descriptor...but rather to actually write out your position on the matter in clear language. That not only eliminates the problem with the multiple definitions...it eliminates the problem of misrepresenting one's position.

Here, once again, is mine:

I do not know if any GOD (or gods) exist or not;
I see no reason to suspect that gods cannot exist…that the existence of a GOD or gods is impossible;
I see no reason to suspect that at least one GOD must exist...that the existence of at least one GOD is needed to explain existence;
I do not see enough unambiguous evidence upon which to base a meaningful guess in either direction on whether any gods exist or not...nor do I see enough unambiguous evidence upon which to base a meaningful guess about which is more likely…so I do not guess on either of those things.

(When I use the word "GOD or gods" here, I mean "The entity (or entities) responsible for the creation of what we humans call 'the physical universe'...IF SUCH AN ENTITY OR ENTITIES ACTUALLY EXIST.)

Most people reading that would deem it an agnostic position. But at least one of the "definitions" of "atheist" would cause some people to call it an atheistic position. The word, as a descriptor, is useless.

So I would ask you two questions:

1) How do you describe your position on the issue?

2) What, specifically, do you disagree with about mine?
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they're not interested in this.

they're trying to harvest gotcha moments.

this is why they're losing, always just defending evil instead of pursuing good.
 
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